East Region Fan Poll

[boobyhasgameyo]

I agree upstate I think Ithaca should be #1 and Cortland at #2. Although I think Cortland has some work to do on D. I don't know what exactly to say about SJF. I know the courage bowl is a rivaly and during rivalry games anything can happen but...If they can't beat up on Rochester I do not think they will be making it out of the first round of the NCAA's again. At this point I really think IC is the clear favortie in the E8. Granted I could be mistaken because I have not seen SJF play in person yet this year. It is going to be an interesting year here in the east.

U of R has been within a touchdown in the 4th quarter against Fisher each of the past 3 years, this was just the first time Fisher didn't put it away, although they had their chances.  So I wouldn't use the fact that it was a close game as a barometer for Fisher. 

[union89]

I work Sunday nights. Sorry for the lateness, but my poll is in.
If Ithaca doesn't have all 10 first place votes in the poll, I will be very surprised.

I know of one poll that has them at #2....

[dlippiel]

I agree upstate I think Ithaca should be #1 and Cortland at #2. Although I think Cortland has some work to do on D. I don't know what exactly to say about SJF. I know the courage bowl is a rivaly and during rivalry games anything can happen but...If they can't beat up on Rochester I do not think they will be making it out of the first round of the NCAA's again. At this point I really think IC is the clear favortie in the E8. Granted I could be mistaken because I have not seen SJF play in person yet this year. It is going to be an interesting year here in the east.

U of R has been within a touchdown in the 4th quarter against Fisher each of the past 3 years, this was just the first time Fisher didn't put it away, although they had their chances.  So I wouldn't use the fact that it was a close game as a barometer for Fisher. 

Why not? My point exactly, in the past Fisher has put them and other teams away, this year they are not. Hence they do not deserve to be in the top 2.

[union89]

I agree upstate I think Ithaca should be #1 and Cortland at #2. Although I think Cortland has some work to do on D. I don't know what exactly to say about SJF. I know the courage bowl is a rivaly and during rivalry games anything can happen but...If they can't beat up on Rochester I do not think they will be making it out of the first round of the NCAA's again. At this point I really think IC is the clear favortie in the E8. Granted I could be mistaken because I have not seen SJF play in person yet this year. It is going to be an interesting year here in the east.

U of R has been within a touchdown in the 4th quarter against Fisher each of the past 3 years, this was just the first time Fisher didn't put it away, although they had their chances.  So I wouldn't use the fact that it was a close game as a barometer for Fisher. 

Why not? My point exactly, in the past Fisher has put them and other teams away, this year they are not. Hence they do not deserve to be in the top 2.

Agreed.....I dropped them from 3 to 4.

[superman57]

go back year after year and Fisher has always had trouble putting uofr away... and the game is always close...

[dlippiel]

I hear ya super but I just don't think they are "the east power" that they have been the past two years...at least thus far. The game vs IC will tell us a lot about the Cards.

[boobyhasgameyo]

Yeah they definitely aren't clicking like the Fisher teams of years past....Not yet at least.  But I just don't think you should put a lot of emphasis on the U of R game because honestly those games are always close....If we capitalized on just 2 plays that were intercepted and won by 21 instead of 7 we wouldn't be having this conversation, so it's a really thin line in my mind between this years Courage Bowl and previous years. 

Yes I agree on this weekend though, the game will tell us a lot about Ithaca. 

[theoriginalupstate]

Yes I agree on this weekend though, the game will tell us a lot about Ithaca. 

I dont think it will as much as it tells us where SJF stands...

We've got a pretty good idea what IC is about this year but have zero clue about SJF...

[pg04]

East Region Fan Poll - Week 3 (9/23/08)

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	Ithaca ( 8 )	3-0	98	1	vs. #3 St. John Fisher
2	Cortland State ( 1 )	2-0	82	3	at #10 Kean
3	St. John Fisher	2-1	81	2	at #1 Ithaca
4	Hobart	2-0	64	5	vs. Susquehanna
5	RPI ( 1 )	2-0	62	4	vs. WPI
6	Delaware Valley	1-1	48	6	vs. Salisbury
7	Montclair State	2-0	41	7	vs. Brockport State
8	Albright	2-1	26	10	open date
9	Rowan	1-1	13	9	vs. William Paterson
10	Kean	2-0	11	NR	vs. #2 Cortland State

Others Receiving votes:      

Alfred 7,
Curry 5,
Hartwick 5,
New Jersey 3,
Widener 2,
WPI 1,
Union 1

Dropping out: #8 Hartwick


Voting Breakdown:

Ithaca (1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1)
Cortland State (2, 3, 6, 1, 4, 3, 2, 2, 3, 2)
St. John Fisher (3, 2, 3, 3, 3, 2, 3, 3, 4, 3)
Hobart (6, 5, 4, 4, 5, 5, 4, 4, 5, 4)
RPI (5, 6, 7, 5, 2, 4, 6, 6, 1, 6)
Delaware Valley (4, 4, 2, -, 7, 6, -, 5, 7, 5)
Montclair State (7, 8, 5, 6, -, 7, 5, 7, 6, 7)
Albright (8, 7, 8, -, -, 8, 7, 8, 8, 8 )
Rowan (-, -, -, 7, 6, 9, -, 10, -, 10)
Kean (9, -, 9, -, -, -, 10, 9, 9, 9)
Alfred (-, 9, 10, -, 10, -, 8, -, -, -)
Hartwick (10, -, -, 9, 9, -, -, -, -, -)
Curry (-, 10, -, -, 8, -, -, -, 10, -)
New Jersey (-, -, -, 8, -, -, -, -, -, -)
Widener (-, -, -, -, -, -, 9, -, -, -)
WPI (-, -, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -)
Union (-, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -)

[superman57]

So fisher wins a close game... in it's rivalry game and gets dropped a slot... Cortland does the same thing and goes up a spot...

[pg04]

Although the ordering didn't change in my ballot, I can see that the Rowan win would seem "more impressive" based on comparing Rowan and Rochester.  The points are so close that one poll would change it the other way, and that's basically what happened. 

[superman57]

My biggest thing is I can't see voting RPI 1.... they struggled with UTICA!!!!!!!

[Jonny Utah]

Although the ordering didn't change in my ballot, I can see that the Rowan win would seem "more impressive" based on comparing Rowan and Rochester.  The points are so close that one poll would change it the other way, and that's basically what happened. 

I dont see how you could possible vote Cortland over Ithaca.  Its clear that Rowan is not a power anymore (toughing it out with an average NEFC team) and the other win is against a newer program....


And RPI battling with Utica would also stop me from putting them in the top spot.

ah well.....

[JQV]

Although the ordering didn't change in my ballot, I can see that the Rowan win would seem "more impressive" based on comparing Rowan and Rochester.  The points are so close that one poll would change it the other way, and that's basically what happened. 

I dont see how you could possible vote Cortland over Ithaca.  Its clear that Rowan is not a power anymore (toughing it out with an average NEFC team) and the other win is against a newer program....


And RPI battling with Utica would also stop me from putting them in the top spot.

ah well.....

It's easy to figure out JU.

RPI voter = hater

Cortland voter = C-State alum that is confused by the concept of a top ten list and attempted to rank it IC, Cortland, et al.  PG needs to account for these things...

[pg04]

Wrong on Both accounts.