East Region Fan Poll

[PBR...]

you definetly could put those top 3 in any order and make a valid arguement on their order...4-10 will need another couple of weeks to shake out. certainly is looking like a fun year in the east w/  many teams stacked close together

['gro]

I didn't do the poll last year so this has been interesting.  My top 3 this week was SJF-DV-CORT.  The whole time I was trying to justify putting Del Val at #1. They clearly have the best resume so far this year.  On the flip side, I didn't want to punish SJF who's only loss is the mount union... and they clearly handled Ithaca on saturday (is it saterday in this room?).  But then I got to thinking about SJF's close game with Rochester, and the room started to get blurry and I blacked out. I woke up this morning with a level 2 hangover and wing sauce stains on my fingers.  8)

true story.

[superman57]

Here's the thing... If you over analyize fishers close games you have to do the same to the rest of the east... as for The Ithaca point differential, the Wick-Fisher game on Saterday will tell us more... I think that part of the score is there is a large diference between the fisher d and the wick d

[pg04]

I do not have all 10 polls yet but it looks to fold out the way everyone says.  Hopefully tonight we shall see. 

[PBR...]

I didn't do the poll last year so this has been interesting.  My top 3 this week was SJF-DV-CORT.  The whole time I was trying to justify putting Del Val at #1. They clearly have the best resume so far this year.  On the flip side, I didn't want to punish SJF who's only loss is the mount union... and they clearly handled Ithaca on saturday (is it saterday in this room?).  But then I got to thinking about SJF's close game with Rochester, and the room started to get blurry and I blacked out. I woke up this morning with a level 2 hangover and wing sauce stains on my fingers.  8)

true story.

sure its not the last bit of ML's leaving your body after turtle beach?

[redswarm81]

I didn't do the poll last year so this has been interesting.  My top 3 this week was SJF-DV-CORT.  The whole time I was trying to justify putting Del Val at #1. They clearly have the best resume so far this year.  On the flip side, I didn't want to punish SJF who's only loss is the mount union... and they clearly handled Ithaca on saturday (is it saterday in this room?).  But then I got to thinking about SJF's close game with Rochester, and the room started to get blurry and I blacked out. I woke up this morning with a level 2 hangover and wing sauce stains on my fingers.  8)

true story.

I can relate.  I had a similar brain drain earlier, as chronicled on the E8 Board:

anybody else think it's weird that it's only week 4 and everyone in the E8 has a loss already?

I had exactly that initial reaction, but then it occurred to me that SJFisher's one loss is to Mount Union, so maybe their one loss gets an asterisk.

But then I thought some more, and I remembered what a tough time SJF had putting away the UofR last week, so maybe the parity in upstate NY and especially in the E8 isn't all that surprising.

Then I noticed that UofR knocked off Union in Schenehecktady, so maybe UofR is a force to be reckoned with in 2008. . . .  Strange upstate days indeed.  Most peculiar, mama.  (Those of you who can't recognize that bit of pop culture ought to take a night class).

So yeah.   E8, everyone has at least one loss.   Weird--leads to weirder stuff, even.

[Knightstalker]

I have SJF, CS and DV as my top three.  I think another two weeks before things really start to shake out.  Del Val enters conference play and there are three or four teams in the MAC looking pretty good right now.  I have three in my top ten, DV, Albright and Widener.  Kean dropped out due to Del Val moving in and I couldn't justify dropping IC all the way out.

[DanPadavona]

It's interesting being on field level and getting to see these teams up close.  I wish I could get a look at SJF and Del Valley right now.  I can tell you Kean is really, really good and deserves Top 10 consideration.  They aren't missing AJ Roque at all.  The new QB D'Ambrisi is just as good if not better, and he's a redshirt freshman.  Durell Dukes is the best receiver in the NJAC.  Defensively they are hit and miss, but I wouldn't be shocked to see them end up #2 or #3 in the NJAC standings.  If Cortland, TCNJ, and Montclair all knock each other off, maybe Kean slips back into the picture.

Another team which bears watching for the future is Morrisville.  They are loaded at the offensive skill positions.  Give them a few impact defenders and they will start winning these close games they have been losing.  Their coach is doing a helluva recruiting job.  As far as the Kickoff report that they had 30 players in camp...Don't Believe the Hype.  They had 100.

Regarding Cortland and Montclair, they both look strong, but I consider them incomplete packages at the moment.  Cortland has defensive deficiencies which were first exploited by TCNJ late last season, and then again by Ithaca.  This year has been a disappointment.  Montclair is obviously struggling offensively (12 versus Morrisville, 13 versus Kean).  Generally it takes a high degree of power on both sides of the ball to win Eastern Region.  So until I see different, I have a hard time voting either team higher than #3.

[labart96]

It's interesting being on field level and getting to see these teams up close.  I wish I could get a look at SJF and Del Valley right now.  I can tell you Kean is really, really good and deserves Top 10 consideration.  They aren't missing AJ Roque at all.  The new QB D'Ambrisi is just as good if not better, and he's a redshirt freshman.  Durell Dukes is the best receiver in the NJAC.  Defensively they are hit and miss, but I wouldn't be shocked to see them end up #2 or #3 in the NJAC standings.  If Cortland, TCNJ, and Montclair all knock each other off, maybe Kean slips back into the picture.

Another team which bears watching for the future is Morrisville.  They are loaded at the offensive skill positions.  Give them a few impact defenders and they will start winning these close games they have been losing.  Their coach is doing a helluva recruiting job.  As far as the Kickoff report that they had 30 players in camp...Don't Believe the Hype.  They had 100.

Regarding Cortland and Montclair, they both look strong, but I consider them incomplete packages at the moment.  Cortland has defensive deficiencies which were first exploited by TCNJ late last season, and then again by Ithaca.  This year has been a disappointment.  Montclair is obviously struggling offensively (12 versus Morrisville, 13 versus Kean).  Generally it takes a high degree of power on both sides of the ball to win Eastern Region.  So until I see different, I have a hard time voting either team higher than #3.

Good insight.  Thx Dan.

Just out of curiousity how is starting 3-0 a "disappointment" for Cortland?
Or are you just referring to the Cortland defense?

[dlippiel]

Cortland D is very questionable and if they were solid I think they would be my number #1 but with the questionable D I can't see them higher than #3. I am "taken aback" by SJF smoking IC. I can't believe it happened the way it did. Congrats to SJF they proved me wrong! I think after that convincing win they belong at #1 and Del Val at #2. I think I would actually put RPI at #3 because I think head to head their D could not handle Robertson. It is going to be an interesting poll I look forward to seeing it. 5-10 could be a mix in my mind.

[pg04]

East Region Fan Poll - Week 4 (9/29/08)

One person did not get their vote in so the point totals will only signify 9 people. If the last pollster gets it in I will add it to this

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	St. John Fisher ( 6 )	3-1	86	3	vs. Hartwick
2	Delaware Valley ( 2 )	2-1	78	6	at King's
3	Cortland State	3-0	74	2	vs. Buffalo State
4	Hobart	3-0	58	4	at St. Lawrence
5	RPI ( 1 )	3-0	54	5	at Rochester
6	Ithaca	3-1	45	1	Open Date
7	Montclair State	3-0	39	7	at William Paterson
8	Albright	2-1	26	8	vs. FDU-Florham
9	Kean	2-1	14	10	at New Jersey
10	Alfred	3-1	8	NR	vs. Norwich

Others Receiving votes:      

Rowan 5,
New Jersey 3,
Curry 3,
Widener 1,
Hartwick 1

Dropping out: #9 Rowan


Voting Breakdown:

St. John Fisher (2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 3, -)
Delaware Valley (1, 2, 1, 3, 3, 2, 3, 2, 4, -)
Cortland State (3, 3, 5, 2, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, -)
Hobart (4, 4, 3, 5, 6, 5, 4, 5, 5, -)
RPI (5, 5, 7, 7, 4, 4, 6, 6, 1, -)
Ithaca (7, 6, 4, 6, 5, 6, 8, 4, 8, -)
Montclair State (6, 8, 6, 4, -, 7, 5, 7, 6, -)
Albright (8, 7, 8, 9, 7, 8, 7, 10, 9, -)
Kean (9, -, 9, 10, 9, -, -, 8, 7, -)
Alfred (-, 9, 10, -, -, 10, 9, 9, -, -)
Rowan (-, -, -, -, 8, 9, -, -, -, -)
Curry (10, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -, 10, -)
New Jersey (-, -, -, 8, -, -, -, -, -, -)
Widener (-, -, -, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -)
Hartwick (-, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -)

[DanPadavona]

TGP -

Just the defense.  And I only say that because there are a lot of returning starters, so logic would suggest they would be improved over last season.  I'll take a 3-0 road start any season, but like Montclair, there is a ceiling over your potential until/unless you stop the bleeding.  Man, I'm mixing all sorts of metaphors.

[AUKaz00]

In the brief history of our poll, has any team gotten into the top 10 with fewer points than Alfred's 8?  I'll have to search the previous polls to find out.

EDIT: After doing the research, 8 is the new low water mark.  Ithaca got in with 11 in week 8 last year as did Widener last week.  There was a 12 and about three 13s, but this marks the first foray into single digits for our top ten.

[DanPadavona]

We'll have to put an asterisk next to that record.  It looks like we only had 9 voters this week.  But considering they probably wouldn't have been ranked any higher than #8 or #9, it still would have been a low water mark.  Interesting, and indicative of the parity this season.

[SJFF82]

RPI #1