East Region Fan Poll

[labart96]

Re: Rochester over Union
Agreed Booby,  I noticed that score linkage too.  The Buffalo State score still leaves me a little wary, but I was convinced enough after the IC win to put SJF back at #1.  I'm not thoroughly convinced of any of my Top 5 selections yet.  This season seems more balanced than the past few.

agreed.  i had Cortland as my #1 in early versions of the poll, but sjf's rebounding with such a convincing win over IC was too impressive not to grant them the #1 for this week anyway.  honestly, once you get outside sjf, cortland (which clearly has some issues defensively) and del val (after the beating both wesley and salisbury), the rest of the top 10 is kind of a crap shoot.

is hobart the #4 best?  who knows.  even from my biased vantage point, the statesmen really haven't played a complete game yet.  the wins over dickinson and cmu have also been somewhat lessened by them being a combined 4-4 at this point.  

still, polls are somewhat popularity contests (note not a single vote for rochester after they lost to SJF by 7 and then beat Union) so keep in mind this is all purely subjective which is part of the "fun" (IMO).

[union89]

People keep referencing U of R losing to Case Western Reserve but they fail to mention how Rochester just defeated Union this past week.  You people act like U of R will finish the season with only one win.  Or are they not allowed to improve after a week 1 loss? 

Union may finish with about 3 wins. 

My point exactly....too painful to actually verbalize.

[dlippiel]

U of R deserves at least a vote in my mind. I just don't think RPI can be #1 this early any year, especially this one because of their dismal schedule and non convincing performances. I said it before, unless they are blowing teams away (which they are not) we never know they are for real until they beat a Union, Hobart, or U of R. They were losing to Utica in the 4th Q. To me that is not a top 3 team in the region espcially one who could even be considered for a #1 vote.

[union89]

Well they defeated Springfield and then lost by 17 to a top 10 team.  I don't know if that makes them a bottom feeder this year. 

Name recognition is way too heavy here.  Springfield doesn't look so good either.

Nah I wasn't implying that Springfield was a top flight team, they will probably be an average team.  But Union was able to defeat them, and then hang with a Top 10 team, so I think Union will probably finish with 6 wins.  That is a Booby prediction special!

I also think U of R will finish with 7 wins just so you know.   

Hate to say it, I was at the Muhlenburg game and it wasn't as close as the score indicates.....Union scored a TD as time expired with scrubs in the game.

[union89]

U of R deserves at least a vote in my mind. I just don't think RPI can be #1 this early any year, especially this one because of their dismal schedule and non convincing performances. I said it before, unless they are blowing teams away (which they are not) we never know they are for real until they beat a Union, Hobart, or U of R. They were losing to Utica in the 4th Q. To me that is not a top 3 team in the region espcially one who could even be considered for a #1 vote.

Guys, if USC pulls out a last second win over Oregon St (a 24 point underdog), do you think they would have remained #1?  I believe so....with the return of Robinson at QB and favorable scheduling, I can't bring myself to drop RPI after taking care of business the first 3 weeks of the season.  A loss in the next couple weeks could drop them considerably, but 3-0 is 3-0 if they are ranked highly early....

[AUPepBand]

Pep would suggest that, with all this talk about a #1 vote for RPI and how U of R should be getting votes after beating Union and hanging with SJF, we should schedule a game between the Engineers and the Yellowjackets. In fact, Pep says let's have them suit up, say, 12 noon this Saterday. Let's make it Fauver Stadium and see how tough these guys really are!

[superman57]

U of R deserves at least a vote in my mind. I just don't think RPI can be #1 this early any year, especially this one because of their dismal schedule and non convincing performances. I said it before, unless they are blowing teams away (which they are not) we never know they are for real until they beat a Union, Hobart, or U of R. They were losing to Utica in the 4th Q. To me that is not a top 3 team in the region espcially one who could even be considered for a #1 vote.

Guys, if USC pulls out a last second win over Oregon St (a 24 point underdog), do you think they would have remained #1?  I believe so....with the return of Robinson at QB and favorable scheduling, I can't bring myself to drop RPI after taking care of business the first 3 weeks of the season.  A loss in the next couple weeks could drop them considerably, but 3-0 is 3-0 if they are ranked highly early....

Ok your arguement their makes EVERYONE hypocritical, for dropping fisher down spots because they struggled with Buff State and UofR

[union89]

U of R deserves at least a vote in my mind. I just don't think RPI can be #1 this early any year, especially this one because of their dismal schedule and non convincing performances. I said it before, unless they are blowing teams away (which they are not) we never know they are for real until they beat a Union, Hobart, or U of R. They were losing to Utica in the 4th Q. To me that is not a top 3 team in the region espcially one who could even be considered for a #1 vote.

Guys, if USC pulls out a last second win over Oregon St (a 24 point underdog), do you think they would have remained #1?  I believe so....with the return of Robinson at QB and favorable scheduling, I can't bring myself to drop RPI after taking care of business the first 3 weeks of the season.  A loss in the next couple weeks could drop them considerably, but 3-0 is 3-0 if they are ranked highly early....

Ok your arguement their makes EVERYONE hypocritical, for dropping fisher down spots because they struggled with Buff State and UofR

I dropped them from #1 to #3 when they got smoked by MUC......I didn't drop them at all for their games with Buff St or U of R.....

[superman57]

U of R deserves at least a vote in my mind. I just don't think RPI can be #1 this early any year, especially this one because of their dismal schedule and non convincing performances. I said it before, unless they are blowing teams away (which they are not) we never know they are for real until they beat a Union, Hobart, or U of R. They were losing to Utica in the 4th Q. To me that is not a top 3 team in the region espcially one who could even be considered for a #1 vote.

Guys, if USC pulls out a last second win over Oregon St (a 24 point underdog), do you think they would have remained #1?  I believe so....with the return of Robinson at QB and favorable scheduling, I can't bring myself to drop RPI after taking care of business the first 3 weeks of the season.  A loss in the next couple weeks could drop them considerably, but 3-0 is 3-0 if they are ranked highly early....

Ok your arguement their makes EVERYONE hypocritical, for dropping fisher down spots because they struggled with Buff State and UofR

I dropped them from #1 to #3 when they got smoked by MUC......I didn't drop them at all for their games with Buff St or U of R.....

I wouldn't say dropping them much for a loss to MUC... and I would say that Fisher has still been more impressive than RPI... A loss to MUC in my mind is more impressive than a win vs. Utica or Endicott

[union89]

U of R deserves at least a vote in my mind. I just don't think RPI can be #1 this early any year, especially this one because of their dismal schedule and non convincing performances. I said it before, unless they are blowing teams away (which they are not) we never know they are for real until they beat a Union, Hobart, or U of R. They were losing to Utica in the 4th Q. To me that is not a top 3 team in the region espcially one who could even be considered for a #1 vote.

Guys, if USC pulls out a last second win over Oregon St (a 24 point underdog), do you think they would have remained #1?  I believe so....with the return of Robinson at QB and favorable scheduling, I can't bring myself to drop RPI after taking care of business the first 3 weeks of the season.  A loss in the next couple weeks could drop them considerably, but 3-0 is 3-0 if they are ranked highly early....

Ok your arguement their makes EVERYONE hypocritical, for dropping fisher down spots because they struggled with Buff State and UofR

I dropped them from #1 to #3 when they got smoked by MUC......I didn't drop them at all for their games with Buff St or U of R.....

I wouldn't say dropping them much for a loss to MUC... and I would say that Fisher has still been more impressive than RPI... A loss to MUC in my mind is more impressive than a win vs. Utica or Endicott

A loss is more impressive than a win?  I know what you mean, but a 'W' is still a 'W'.

[SJFF82]

LewDogg:  being dismissive of SJF's solid victory over Ithaca, referring to IC as "struggling" is a bit incorrect.  IC was coming off of an offensive explosion over Hartwick and was undefeated overall.  The magnitude of the victory by SJF has nothing to do with "name recognition".  Ithaca certainly brings alot of tradition of excellence to the table, but they were the 16th ranked team in the country that SJF kept out of the endzone for 4 quarters...

Union89:  I can certainly understand that you are trying to remain consistent in keeping RPI #1.  The only problem I have in your analysis of SJF's season to date is that it was not the close victory over UR that is suspect, but rather the game against Buff St.  The UR game result was virtually identical to the result for SJF in the previous 3 seasons...in which 2 of those seasons SJF ran deep into the National play-offs.  That game score is indicative of no weakness on SJF's part.  On the other hand, if you were to justify RPI over SJF because of SJF's performance at home ag. Buff St., then I would listen a bit more intently.  Even then, a win is a win.  I suspect though, if SJF had scheduled a cupcake week 1 and won 55-3, everyone would have them #1 at this point, so essentially, although no one is stating so, the MUC blow-out loss is being substantially used against them, when I do not believe that it should.

All-in-all, good work pollsters. 

[dewcrew88]

East Region Fan Poll - Week 4 (9/29/08)

One person did not get their vote in so the point totals will only signify 9 people. If the last pollster gets it in I will add it to this

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	St. John Fisher ( 6 )	3-1	86	3	vs. Hartwick
2	Delaware Valley ( 2 )	2-1	78	6	at King's
3	Cortland State	3-0	74	2	vs. Buffalo State
4	Hobart	3-0	58	4	at St. Lawrence
5	RPI ( 1 )	3-0	54	5	at Rochester
6	Ithaca	3-1	45	1	Open Date
7	Montclair State	3-0	39	7	at William Paterson
8	Albright	2-1	26	8	vs. FDU-Florham
9	Kean	2-1	14	10	at New Jersey
10	Alfred	3-1	8	NR	vs. Norwich

Others Receiving votes:      

Rowan 5,
New Jersey 3,
Curry 3,
Widener 1,
Hartwick 1

Dropping out: #9 Rowan


Voting Breakdown:

St. John Fisher (2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 3, -)
Delaware Valley (1, 2, 1, 3, 3, 2, 3, 2, 4, -)
Cortland State (3, 3, 5, 2, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, -)
Hobart (4, 4, 3, 5, 6, 5, 4, 5, 5, -)
RPI (5, 5, 7, 7, 4, 4, 6, 6, 1, -)
Ithaca (7, 6, 4, 6, 5, 6, 8, 4, 8, -)
Montclair State (6, 8, 6, 4, -, 7, 5, 7, 6, -)
Albright (8, 7, 8, 9, 7, 8, 7, 10, 9, -)
Kean (9, -, 9, 10, 9, -, -, 8, 7, -)
Alfred (-, 9, 10, -, -, 10, 9, 9, -, -)
Rowan (-, -, -, -, 8, 9, -, -, -, -)
Curry (10, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -, 10, -)
New Jersey (-, -, -, 8, -, -, -, -, -, -)
Widener (-, -, -, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -)
Hartwick (-, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -)

Sorry about not getting my poll in.... I just moved to a new place, so the poll ended up on the back burner...

I'll be back next week no problem, pg, if you'll let me stay... 

[pg04]

Not a problem, in fact, I can add your poll in from the Around the East and put up a modified poll..

[lewdogg11]

Sorry about not getting my poll in....

hhehehehhahahhahahhhhhhahahahahahah.....pole in....hahahahhahhehehehehehee

[pg04]

East Region Fan Poll - Week 4 (9/29/08)

This poll is modified with the addition of DC's ATE top 10

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	St. John Fisher ( 6 )	3-1	94	3	vs. Hartwick
2	Delaware Valley ( 2 )	2-1	87	6	at King's
3	Cortland State ( 1 )	3-0	84	2	vs. Buffalo State
4	Hobart	3-0	64	4	at St. Lawrence
5	RPI ( 1 )	3-0	61	5	at Rochester
6	Ithaca	3-1	50	1	Open Date
7	Montclair State	3-0	42	7	at William Paterson
8	Albright	2-1	30	8	vs. FDU-Florham
9	Kean	2-1	14	10	at New Jersey
10	Alfred	3-1	8	NR	vs. Norwich

Others Receiving votes:      

Rowan 6,
New Jersey 3,
Curry 3,
Hartwick 3,
Widener 1


Dropping out: #9 Rowan


Voting Breakdown:

St. John Fisher (2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3)
Delaware Valley (1, 2, 1, 3, 3, 2, 3, 2, 4, 2)
Cortland State (3, 3, 5, 2, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 1)
Hobart (4, 4, 3, 5, 6, 5, 4, 5, 5, 5)
RPI (5, 5, 7, 7, 4, 4, 6, 6, 1, 4)
Ithaca (7, 6, 4, 6, 5, 6, 8, 4, 8, 6)
Montclair State (6, 8, 6, 4, -, 7, 5, 7, 6, 8 )
Albright (8, 7, 8, 9, 7, 8, 7, 10, 9, 7)
Kean (9, -, 9, 10, 9, -, -, 8, 7, -)
Alfred (-, 9, 10, -, -, 10, 9, 9, -, -)
Rowan (-, -, -, -, 8, 9, -, -, -, 10)
Curry (10, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -, 10, -)
New Jersey (-, -, -, 8, -, -, -, -, -, -)
Hartwick (-, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, 9)
Widener (-, -, -, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -)