East Region Fan Poll

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won by 7 vs a 1-4 wilkes (13-6)
won by 5 vs a 0-5 Mo St (12-7)
won by 2 vs a 2-3 Port (16-14)
won by 1 vs a 2-3 Wil P (14-13)

Yes they have a great D, but they were squeaking by some pretty inferior competition...

Bingo. And when they had Cortland on the ropes, they didn't get it done. When I talked to Coach Giancola, he told me that they would have to put up more points then they have been and to do better in the red zone, and they didn't against Cortland.

DanPadavona

Great job everyone, and thanks again PG04 for providing this.  It's fantastic that people who follow D3 nationally are reading our opinions on Eastern Region.

Some interesting match-ups the next few weeks could throw the poll into even more of a funk.  The very real possibility of Del Valley being upset at Lycoming in 2 weeks would shake things up considerably. 

RPI may end up our consensus #1.  It's going to be tough for Cortland to go undefeated in the NJAC, and also defeat Ithaca.  Odds say at some point you are bound to lose one.  Del Valley still has its toughest in conference foes to play.  And RPI has both Union and Hobart in Troy this season.  That's a very nice setup for the Engineers.  If they play it right, they could conceivably be a #1 NCAA seed.
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Quote from: DanPadavona on October 14, 2008, 03:29:47 AM
Great job everyone, and thanks again PG04 for providing this.  It's fantastic that people who follow D3 nationally are reading our opinions on Eastern Region.

Some interesting match-ups the next few weeks could throw the poll into even more of a funk.  The very real possibility of Del Valley being upset at Lycoming in 2 weeks would shake things up considerably. 

RPI may end up our consensus #1.  It's going to be tough for Cortland to go undefeated in the NJAC, and also defeat Ithaca.  Odds say at some point you are bound to lose one.  Del Valley still has its toughest in conference foes to play.  And RPI has both Union and Hobart in Troy this season.  That's a very nice setup for the Engineers.  If they play it right, they could conceivably be a #1 NCAA seed.

This shows why this is a strange year in footsball.  RPI is only supposed to be good in odd numbered years.

Dave, I have had MSU in the middle of the pack all season.  I feel that is exactly what they are, a good team that is playing great defense right now but not impressing with the O.  That said, they are doing what is ultimately important and winning the games.  Kean and Rowan games will show a lot, TCNJ showed last year that you can make it playing great D with no O, but you need to put up points in the postseason.

In my opinion Cortland, Del Val and RPI have started to separate themselves from the pack, of course all it takes is a loss to be right back with the pack.

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Quote from: DanPadavona on October 14, 2008, 03:29:47 AM
Great job everyone, and thanks again PG04 for providing this.  It's fantastic that people who follow D3 nationally are reading our opinions on Eastern Region.

Some interesting match-ups the next few weeks could throw the poll into even more of a funk.  The very real possibility of Del Valley being upset at Lycoming in 2 weeks would shake things up considerably. 

RPI may end up our consensus #1.  It's going to be tough for Cortland to go undefeated in the NJAC, and also defeat Ithaca.  Odds say at some point you are bound to lose one.  Del Valley still has its toughest in conference foes to play.  And RPI has both Union and Hobart in Troy this season.  That's a very nice setup for the Engineers.  If they play it right, they could conceivably be a #1 NCAA seed.

me thinks the boyz from dvc will have something to say about your real possibility of lyco beating them....  :P

pg04

Quote from: Knightstalker on October 14, 2008, 08:17:23 AM
Quote from: DanPadavona on October 14, 2008, 03:29:47 AM
Great job everyone, and thanks again PG04 for providing this.  It's fantastic that people who follow D3 nationally are reading our opinions on Eastern Region.

Some interesting match-ups the next few weeks could throw the poll into even more of a funk.  The very real possibility of Del Valley being upset at Lycoming in 2 weeks would shake things up considerably. 

RPI may end up our consensus #1.  It's going to be tough for Cortland to go undefeated in the NJAC, and also defeat Ithaca.  Odds say at some point you are bound to lose one.  Del Valley still has its toughest in conference foes to play.  And RPI has both Union and Hobart in Troy this season.  That's a very nice setup for the Engineers.  If they play it right, they could conceivably be a #1 NCAA seed.

This shows why this is a strange year in footsball.  RPI is only supposed to be good in odd numbered years.

Dave, I have had MSU in the middle of the pack all season.  I feel that is exactly what they are, a good team that is playing great defense right now but not impressing with the O.  That said, they are doing what is ultimately important and winning the games.  Kean and Rowan games will show a lot, TCNJ showed last year that you can make it playing great D with no O, but you need to put up points in the postseason.

In my opinion Cortland, Del Val and RPI have started to separate themselves from the pack, of course all it takes is a loss to be right back with the pack.

The point differential between RPI's 81 and Ithaca's 55 shows this huge disparity between 3 and 4 fairly well, so at least the numbers are shaking out to make sense when looking at the region. 

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2008, 08:47:39 PM
Thanks!  For the sake of us "out-of-region" folk who are following this as a proxy for the Regional Rankings until the official "Regional Rankings" come out...

1) Del Valley  MAC   Lost to FDU-Florham  14-19
2) Cortland St NJAC  Beat WCSU 41-14
3) RPI  LL                   Beat Susquehanna 35-14
4) Ithaca  E8              Beat FSU  51-24


5) Kean  NJAC               Lost to Brockport St 34-36
6) Hartwick E8              Beat Becker 49-12
7) Lycoming MAC           Lost to Wilkes 13-27
8 ) SJF  E8                     Beat Norwich 45-6
9)  Montclair St NJAC     Beat Buff State 45-28
10) Hobart LL                Open date

Pool C begins at #5 if the post-season began today!

We Pool C followers love that carnage in the MAC...   ;)

Now we need the 2-loss Kean to bounce back against Rowan and Montclair State.

Frank Rossi

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2008, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2008, 08:47:39 PM
Thanks!  For the sake of us "out-of-region" folk who are following this as a proxy for the Regional Rankings until the official "Regional Rankings" come out...

1) Del Valley  MAC   Lost to FDU-Florham  14-19
2) Cortland St NJAC  Beat WCSU 41-14
3) RPI  LL                   Beat Susquehanna 35-14
4) Ithaca  E8              Beat FSU  51-24


5) Kean  NJAC               Lost to Brockport St 34-36
6) Hartwick E8              Beat Becker 49-12
7) Lycoming MAC           Lost to Wilkes 13-27
8 ) SJF  E8                     Beat Norwich 45-6
9)  Montclair St NJAC     Beat Buff State 45-28
10) Hobart LL                Open date

Pool C begins at #5 if the post-season began today!

We Pool C followers love that carnage in the MAC...   ;)

Now we need the 2-loss Kean to bounce back against Rowan and Montclair State.

I'd start to look toward WPI, who only has Hobart left in terms of the 0- and 1-loss teams left in the LL.  This could get very interesting... or should I say... BIZARRO...

theoriginalupstate

This is such a weird season in the east. Basically you can describe the east as something that starts with the word cluster and then ends with the word...well you can figure it out from there.


If Cortland goes 10-0 do they get the #1 seed in the "East" and keep MUC in the "North"?


labart96

Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 10:24:30 AM
If Cortland goes 10-0 do they get the #1 seed in the "East" and keep MUC in the "North"?

Most likely - there'd be more of a possibility (slim) that Muhlenburg would get the #1 in the East than MUC this season.

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: TGP on October 19, 2008, 10:45:50 AM
Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 10:24:30 AM
If Cortland goes 10-0 do they get the #1 seed in the "East" and keep MUC in the "North"?

Most likely - there'd be more of a possibility (slim) that Muhlenburg would get the #1 in the East than MUC this season.

Interesting

redswarm81

Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 10:24:30 AM
This is such a weird season in the east. Basically you can describe the east as something that starts with the word cluster and then ends with the word...well you can figure it out from there.

If Cortland goes 10-0 do they get the #1 seed in the "East" and keep MUC in the "North"?


More and more, I love that compound noun beginning with "cluster."  I believe the term is of military origin, oo-rah!

If Cortland goes 10-0, they'll have wins over sentimental favorites Rowan and Ithaca, so I think it'd be an infinitesimally slim chance that the Selection Committee would move another team into the East ahead of Cortland.  Furthermore, if Ithaca wins the E8 tiebreaker and Rowan wins out to nab a Pool C bid, the Selection Committee can properly point to Cortland's stellar record against regionally ranked teams/playoff teams.

If it's any consolation, I think things might be just about as screwed up in the West Region as they are in the East.  The West's marquee conferences are the MIAC and the WIAC, and things are seriously messed in the MIAC--only Carleton and Concordia-Moorhead have less than two losses in region, and they play each other in three weeks.  Carleton could win that game, but they still have the Tommies and Johnnies to play.

In the WIAC, where UW-Whitewater (the defending national champion) appears to be running the table, only UW-Stevens Point has less than two regional losses, and they play at Whitewater next week.

Meanwhile, Monmouth has been taking on all comers in the lightly-regarded (I'm being kind) MWC, and has to be a better-than-even-money bet to finish the season 10-0 in region, where they'll have a 200+ point winning percentage advantage over any Pool C teams with higher OWP/OOWP numbers.
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pg04

Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 19, 2008, 12:08:50 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2008, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2008, 08:47:39 PM
Thanks!  For the sake of us "out-of-region" folk who are following this as a proxy for the Regional Rankings until the official "Regional Rankings" come out...

1) Del Valley  MAC   Lost to FDU-Florham  14-19
2) Cortland St NJAC  Beat WCSU 41-14
3) RPI  LL                   Beat Susquehanna 35-14
4) Ithaca  E8              Beat FSU  51-24


5) Kean  NJAC               Lost to Brockport St 34-36
6) Hartwick E8              Beat Becker 49-12
7) Lycoming MAC           Lost to Wilkes 13-27
8 ) SJF  E8                     Beat Norwich 45-6
9)  Montclair St NJAC     Beat Buff State 45-28
10) Hobart LL                Open date

Pool C begins at #5 if the post-season began today!

We Pool C followers love that carnage in the MAC...   ;)

Now we need the 2-loss Kean to bounce back against Rowan and Montclair State.

I'd start to look toward WPI, who only has Hobart left in terms of the 0- and 1-loss teams left in the LL.  This could get very interesting... or should I say... BIZARRO...

I love Brockport contributing to the Madness..  They lose badly to some teams and upset others... Cortland watch out  ;)

pumkinattack

Maybe someone better informed can add to this, but I thought they seed the top four teams with an eye on regional balance?  I know Muhlenburg is considered a South region team, but assuming Mary Hardin Baylor is undefeated, could it potentially come down to a Muhlenburg/Cortland analysis for the East #1 instead of a making a PA school with a bus drive to many opponents a #2 in the south?

Seems like the volume of Pool C's in the east is somewhat dependent on this and what happens with Salisbury, although I understand that there is a fairly objective selection process for Pool C (I believe there is still some subjectivity in it at the end on very close calls for the 31st and 31nd teams).

theoriginalupstate

I dont know if they'll throw 2 south region teams in the east, but i can see them throwing in Salisbury or Muhlenburgh in to give the bracket some muscle.

IE: Cortland Bracket
1. Cortland
2. Salisbury
3. RPI
4. DVC
5. Rowan
6. E8 Winner
7. Curry
8. Albright

IE: Muhlenburgh Bracket
1. Muhlenburgh
2. Cortland
3. RPI
4. DVC
5. Rowan
6. E8 Winner
7. Curry
8. Albright