East Region Fan Poll

[superman57]

I agree that whoever did not vote for Rowan is on crack.. as is the voter who did not vote for wick... you've given me the reasons that you did not vote for fisher but you've yet to give me who you voted for over fisher and what victories they had that were more impressive than fisher

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out what my Poll was....you can do that homework.  I think I've been more than fair to both you and SJF82 in addressing your frustrations with my omission of Fisher.

Trinity over fisher... to me that seems like you are searching for anyone to put ahead of fisher... you criticze fisher for not putting away springfield but it took over time for Trinity to beat a 3-3 tufts team, they also struggled vs a 1-5 Bates team and struggled with an average middelbury team... So I respect your right to vote and all... but you are being hypocritical... Trinity has yet to be impressive... so the least you could do is put fisher over Trinity... because I guarantee you that fisher beats trinity this year

[SJFF82]

I agree that whoever did not vote for Rowan is on crack.. as is the voter who did not vote for wick... you've given me the reasons that you did not vote for fisher but you've yet to give me who you voted for over fisher and what victories they had that were more impressive than fisher

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out what my Poll was....you can do that homework.  I think I've been more than fair to both you and SJF82 in addressing your frustrations with my omission of Fisher.

And here we go again...I never expressed any frustration with your not ranking a 5-3 team with 1 loss to MUC, 1 loss to #16 Salisury in 4ot and 1 loss by three to 'Wick...in the EAST....AT ALL!  Never said it!  You cannot find that post.  My first comment in this 'thread' was to point out that Fisher has had more than 2 good (or "great" for those keeping tabs on every word typed....JU) contrary to your assertion.  It wasnt until several posts later that it occurred to me that you had misunderstood me and felt that I had a big problem with the poll.  I did not, and in fact have previously (last week) expressed that I agree with SJF's ranking.  At that point I felt compelled to comment that yeah, your not ranking SJF is a bit suspect, as even you now understand cannot really be supported by OBJECTIVE criteria.  I guess my feeling is that I dont want you to feel like I had a big prob with your voting, because until you pointed it out to me, I hadnt even noticed that you snubbed them

BTW....there always comes a point in the season when I wonder if we all take this stuff a bit too serious, or perhaps, it just comes off as too serious because words on a screen are taken out of context from the individuals typing them...I would like to think that most posters can sit back, talk to their fellow fans of their respective teams or their former teammates and have a laugh about how we go at it on here...and its not that 'we' actually harbor any ill will towards eachother's opinions.  We all have something in common on here and most of it is towards the same positive end...the best for the individual teams that we support.

[union89]

I agree that whoever did not vote for Rowan is on crack.. as is the voter who did not vote for wick... you've given me the reasons that you did not vote for fisher but you've yet to give me who you voted for over fisher and what victories they had that were more impressive than fisher

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out what my Poll was....you can do that homework.  I think I've been more than fair to both you and SJF82 in addressing your frustrations with my omission of Fisher.

Trinity over fisher... to me that seems like you are searching for anyone to put ahead of fisher... you criticze fisher for not putting away springfield but it took over time for Trinity to beat a 3-3 tufts team, they also struggled vs a 1-5 Bates team and struggled with an average middelbury team... So I respect your right to vote and all... but you are being hypocritical... Trinity has yet to be impressive... so the least you could do is put fisher over Trinity... because I guarantee you that fisher beats trinity this year

You can guarantee Fisher would beat Trinity?  

What is Springfields record (which Fisher struggled with)??  This conversation could go on forever....just my opinion and I've tried to explain to you my thought process.....at I said earlier, #'s 8, 9 & 10 were a crap-shoot for me.

[pg04]

I agree that whoever did not vote for Rowan is on crack.. as is the voter who did not vote for wick... you've given me the reasons that you did not vote for fisher but you've yet to give me who you voted for over fisher and what victories they had that were more impressive than fisher

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out what my Poll was....you can do that homework.  I think I've been more than fair to both you and SJF82 in addressing your frustrations with my omission of Fisher.

Trinity over fisher... to me that seems like you are searching for anyone to put ahead of fisher... you criticze fisher for not putting away springfield but it took over time for Trinity to beat a 3-3 tufts team, they also struggled vs a 1-5 Bates team and struggled with an average middelbury team... So I respect your right to vote and all... but you are being hypocritical... Trinity has yet to be impressive... so the least you could do is put fisher over Trinity... because I guarantee you that fisher beats trinity this year

You can guarantee Fisher would beat Trinity?  

What is Springfields record (which Fisher struggled with)??  This conversation could go on forever....just my opinion and I've tried to explain to you my thought process.....at I said earlier, #'s 8, 9 & 10 were a crap-shoot for me.

Honestly, No one can say anything at all about a NESCAC team since they don't play anyone but themselves...  This is why I will never put any of them in my poll.  Just my own perogative, though.  I'm fairly certain from what I've heard from people who watch these schools that they would be very competitve out of conference. 

[Knightstalker]

I am not on crack, I am on Jack and I don't think Hartwick deserves a top 10 vote, they are on the bubble.
Sep. 6      2:00 PM      Western New England  • W, 63-37     
Sep. 20    1:00 PM    at Ithaca * •                      L, 69-42          
Oct. 4    1:00 PM    at St. John Fisher * •     W, 31-28          
Oct. 11    2:00 PM    Alfred * •                          W, 24-19          
Oct. 18    1:00 PM    Becker •                             W, 49-12          
Oct. 25    1:00 PM    at Mount Ida •             W, 58-27          
Nov. 1    2:00 PM    Norwich * •             
Nov. 8    12:00 PM    at Springfield * •             
Nov. 15    1:00 PM    Utica * •       

Two decent wins and a monkey-stomping at the hands of Ithaca, otherwise they have beaten up on Mother Marys School for the Blind.  I have two MAC teams that would be top ten before Hartwick.      

[union89]

I agree that whoever did not vote for Rowan is on crack.. as is the voter who did not vote for wick... you've given me the reasons that you did not vote for fisher but you've yet to give me who you voted for over fisher and what victories they had that were more impressive than fisher

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out what my Poll was....you can do that homework.  I think I've been more than fair to both you and SJF82 in addressing your frustrations with my omission of Fisher.

And here we go again...I never expressed any frustration with your not ranking a 5-3 team with 1 loss to MUC, 1 loss to #16 Salisury in 4ot and 1 loss by three to 'Wick...in the EAST....AT ALL!  Never said it!  You cannot find that post.  My first comment in this 'thread' was to point out that Fisher has had more than 2 good (or "great" for those keeping tabs on every word typed....JU) contrary to your assertion.  It wasnt until several posts later that it occurred to me that you had misunderstood me and felt that I had a big problem with the poll.  I did not, and in fact have previously (last week) expressed that I agree with SJF's ranking.  At that point I felt compelled to comment that yeah, your not ranking SJF is a bit suspect, as even you now understand cannot really be supported by OBJECTIVE criteria.  I guess my feeling is that I dont want you to feel like I had a big prob with your voting, because until you pointed it out to me, I hadnt even noticed that you snubbed them

BTW....there always comes a point in the season when I wonder if we all take this stuff a bit too serious, or perhaps, it just comes off as too serious because words on a screen are taken out of context from the individuals typing them...I would like to think that most posters can sit back, talk to their fellow fans of their respective teams or their former teammates and have a laugh about how we go at it on here...and its not that 'we' actually harbor any ill will towards eachother's opinions.  We all have something in common on here and most of it is towards the same positive end...the best for the individual teams that we support.

Dude, I'm totally sick of answering these questions, but clarification keeps being asked of me and I don't want to hear someone say, "Oh U89 has a hated for Fisher, then refused to answer questions when backed into a corner."

In all due respect to you guys I'm done talking about this topic.

[superman57]

who has trinity played... and almost all of their games have been close... listen Fisher is not top 5 this year infact I ranked them 6 and that might even be high... but to put Trinity above Fisher because Fisher struggled with Springfield, but to not punish Trinity for struggling with the teams that they did is hypocritical

but I am done know... we're just not going to agree...

so I am right you are wrong and that's that... (just kidding, we are both right in our own ways_\)

I am not on crack, I am on Jack and I don't think Hartwick deserves a top 10 vote, they are on the bubble.
Sep. 6      2:00 PM      Western New England  • W, 63-37     
Sep. 20    1:00 PM    at Ithaca * •                      L, 69-42          
Oct. 4    1:00 PM    at St. John Fisher * •     W, 31-28          
Oct. 11    2:00 PM    Alfred * •                          W, 24-19          
Oct. 18    1:00 PM    Becker •                             W, 49-12          
Oct. 25    1:00 PM    at Mount Ida •             W, 58-27          
Nov. 1    2:00 PM    Norwich * •             
Nov. 8    12:00 PM    at Springfield * •             
Nov. 15    1:00 PM    Utica * •       

Two decent wins and a monkey-stomping at the hands of Ithaca, otherwise they have beaten up on Mother Marys School for the Blind.  I have two MAC teams that would be top ten before Hartwick.      

ok good reasoning...in my head I could not put fisher ahead of Wick, but I understand where you were coming from

[SJFF82]

I agree that whoever did not vote for Rowan is on crack.. as is the voter who did not vote for wick... you've given me the reasons that you did not vote for fisher but you've yet to give me who you voted for over fisher and what victories they had that were more impressive than fisher

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out what my Poll was....you can do that homework.  I think I've been more than fair to both you and SJF82 in addressing your frustrations with my omission of Fisher.

Trinity over fisher... to me that seems like you are searching for anyone to put ahead of fisher... you criticze fisher for not putting away springfield but it took over time for Trinity to beat a 3-3 tufts team, they also struggled vs a 1-5 Bates team and struggled with an average middelbury team... So I respect your right to vote and all... but you are being hypocritical... Trinity has yet to be impressive... so the least you could do is put fisher over Trinity... because I guarantee you that fisher beats trinity this year

You can guarantee Fisher would beat Trinity?  

What is Springfields record (which Fisher struggled with)??  This conversation could go on forever....just my opinion and I've tried to explain to you my thought process.....at I said earlier, #'s 8, 9 & 10 were a crap-shoot for me.

....but #11 was easy...ST. JOHN FISHER CARDINALS....the laughing stock of the East for giving MUC their toughest game in 2 years since the last time they gave MUC their toughest game in the 2006 semis (other than the Stagg last year of course)

[union89]

I am not on crack, I am on Jack and I don't think Hartwick deserves a top 10 vote, they are on the bubble.
Sep. 6      2:00 PM      Western New England  • W, 63-37     
Sep. 20    1:00 PM    at Ithaca * •                      L, 69-42          
Oct. 4    1:00 PM    at St. John Fisher * •     W, 31-28          
Oct. 11    2:00 PM    Alfred * •                          W, 24-19          
Oct. 18    1:00 PM    Becker •                             W, 49-12          
Oct. 25    1:00 PM    at Mount Ida •             W, 58-27          
Nov. 1    2:00 PM    Norwich * •             
Nov. 8    12:00 PM    at Springfield * •             
Nov. 15    1:00 PM    Utica * •       

Two decent wins and a monkey-stomping at the hands of Ithaca, otherwise they have beaten up on Mother Marys School for the Blind.  I have two MAC teams that would be top ten before Hartwick.      

Different way to look at it.....my point exactly....

[SJF Fan]

....but #11 was easy...ST. JOHN FISHER CARDINALS....the laughing stock of the East for giving MUC their toughest game in 2 years since the last time they gave MUC their toughest game in the 2006 semis (other than the Stagg last year of course)

We've played MUC 3 times now - I'd like to see the gap start to close a bit between them and us. 

Hartwick to me, should feel lucky if they qualify for a Club bid with the schedule they play . . . if they're a real program, than they shouldn't seek to pad the record with their non conference games. . .

[union89]

I agree that whoever did not vote for Rowan is on crack.. as is the voter who did not vote for wick... you've given me the reasons that you did not vote for fisher but you've yet to give me who you voted for over fisher and what victories they had that were more impressive than fisher

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out what my Poll was....you can do that homework.  I think I've been more than fair to both you and SJF82 in addressing your frustrations with my omission of Fisher.

Trinity over fisher... to me that seems like you are searching for anyone to put ahead of fisher... you criticze fisher for not putting away springfield but it took over time for Trinity to beat a 3-3 tufts team, they also struggled vs a 1-5 Bates team and struggled with an average middelbury team... So I respect your right to vote and all... but you are being hypocritical... Trinity has yet to be impressive... so the least you could do is put fisher over Trinity... because I guarantee you that fisher beats trinity this year

You can guarantee Fisher would beat Trinity?  

What is Springfields record (which Fisher struggled with)??  This conversation could go on forever....just my opinion and I've tried to explain to you my thought process.....at I said earlier, #'s 8, 9 & 10 were a crap-shoot for me.

....but #11 was easy...ST. JOHN FISHER CARDINALS....the laughing stock of the East for giving MUC their toughest game in 2 years since the last time they gave MUC their toughest game in the 2006 semis (other than the Stagg last year of course)

There you go talking about '06 again in an '08 Fan Poll Board....irrelevant to this.  

Also, are you calling Fisher a laughing stock?  I never have, nor would I state that.

[superman57]

This conversation is over to me...u89 you have made yourself clear... and I am over it

I see where you are coming and hopefully you see where I am coming from...

[union89]

This conversation is over to me...u89 you have made yourself clear... and I am over it

I see where you are coming and hopefully you see where I am coming from...

I totally do....the bottom 1/3 of my Poll could have gone in any number of directions.

[SJFF82]

I agree that whoever did not vote for Rowan is on crack.. as is the voter who did not vote for wick... you've given me the reasons that you did not vote for fisher but you've yet to give me who you voted for over fisher and what victories they had that were more impressive than fisher

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out what my Poll was....you can do that homework.  I think I've been more than fair to both you and SJF82 in addressing your frustrations with my omission of Fisher.

Trinity over fisher... to me that seems like you are searching for anyone to put ahead of fisher... you criticze fisher for not putting away springfield but it took over time for Trinity to beat a 3-3 tufts team, they also struggled vs a 1-5 Bates team and struggled with an average middelbury team... So I respect your right to vote and all... but you are being hypocritical... Trinity has yet to be impressive... so the least you could do is put fisher over Trinity... because I guarantee you that fisher beats trinity this year

You can guarantee Fisher would beat Trinity?  

What is Springfields record (which Fisher struggled with)??  This conversation could go on forever....just my opinion and I've tried to explain to you my thought process.....at I said earlier, #'s 8, 9 & 10 were a crap-shoot for me.

....but #11 was easy...ST. JOHN FISHER CARDINALS....the laughing stock of the East for giving MUC their toughest game in 2 years since the last time they gave MUC their toughest game in the 2006 semis (other than the Stagg last year of course)

There you go talking about '06 again in an '08 Fan Poll Board....irrelevant to this.  

Also, are you calling Fisher a laughing stock?  I never have, nor would I state that.

breath 89....I was just being sarcastic/funny....like I said, a bit too serious??

[superman57]

I think we all need a little bit of the crack and jack that KS is taking