East Region Fan Poll

[dlippiel]

Okay, I said I didn't get it, so maybe I need it re-explained.

Hartwick was an embarrassing loss, and I know Salisbury is pushing it because they are a good team, but from what I heard Fisher had numerous chances to close out that game. I just think instead of all this crowing about how Fisher gets no respect I'd like to hear more about what specifically makes them better than any of the ten teams on the poll.

I don't think there is a lot of evidence to support that argument. Lots of turnovers, inexperience at the QB position, a spread that has been somewhat inconsistent, losing to Wick, and most of all struggling with poor teams. Right now as much as I have hammered Wick SJF shouldn't be mentioned in the same paragraph as them. I am looking at maybe #16 in the east, maybe.

[superman57]

The object is to win the game... it shouldn't matter how you win a game as long as you win it... Look at the Titans, they are not winning pretty, but no one is saying they suck because they are winning the games...

[theoriginalupstate]

The object is to win the game... it shouldn't matter how you win a game as long as you win it... Look at the Titans, they are not winning pretty, but no one is saying they suck because they are winning the games...

They've also gone undefeated so that is not a valid comparison...

If SJF won every game on their schedule by 3pts they'd be #1 no questions asked...

Look they went out and went after the big dogs this year and ended up getting bit in the ass, you cant have it both ways...

[theoriginalupstate]

To follow up on the previous post, say SJF did not schedule MUC and SU and instead had a middle of the pack MAC team and a middle of the pack NJAC or LL team.  There's a really good chance that would be 8-1.  If SJF were 8-1 right now they'd be regionally ranked and have a pool C bid almost locked up with a win vs AU in 2 weeks....

[Knightstalker]

I actually feel that SJF is a middle of the pack team in the east and would have a hard time with Kean, Union, B-Port, WPI, FDU, Widener etc this season.

[HHawks]

max which loss(s) was(were) the embarassing one(s)
wick?
salisbury?

because i know that you werent talking about MUC

and you have missed the point of the ooc about ply  etc.

lot of animosity on here today.

Im sorry, i know MU is like the greatest team since the 72 dolphins, but anytime you lose 33-3 that counts as an embarrassing loss in my book.

[Knightstalker]

max which loss(s) was(were) the embarassing one(s)
wick?
salisbury?

because i know that you werent talking about MUC

and you have missed the point of the ooc about ply  etc.

lot of animosity on here today.

Im sorry, i know MU is like the greatest team since the 72 dolphins, but anytime you lose 33-3 that counts as an embarrassing loss in my book.

True a Monkeystomp is a Monkeystomp.

[dlippiel]

max which loss(s) was(were) the embarassing one(s)
wick?
salisbury?

because i know that you werent talking about MUC

and you have missed the point of the ooc about ply  etc.

lot of animosity on here today.

Im sorry, i know MU is like the greatest team since the 72 dolphins, but anytime you lose 33-3 that counts as an embarrassing loss in my book.

True a Monkeystomp is a Monkeystomp.

Yes a Monkey Stomp is a Monkey Stomp is a.......Monkey Stomp! I used to think I would be very very embarrassed losing to Wick but they are starting to make me think otherwise. Yet if they lose any of their final games against what should be "weaker" opponents then I think I may be right on the "Wick sucks" band wagon. For right now though they are doing what they need to and they deserve credit for it. Boltus is a stud and so is Phelan. The others (meaning the D) seem to be picking up the slack and backing up their star players. Very undecided on Wick and will continue to be until the end of the season.

[theoriginalupstate]

max which loss(s) was(were) the embarassing one(s)
wick?
salisbury?

because i know that you werent talking about MUC

and you have missed the point of the ooc about ply  etc.

lot of animosity on here today.

Im sorry, i know MU is like the greatest team since the 72 dolphins, but anytime you lose 33-3 that counts as an embarrassing loss in my book.

And a Wick (or anyone in the East) vs MUC game would turn out different?

Sorry we had the stones to play them this year while you were playing your NEFC teams.

[HHawks]

max which loss(s) was(were) the embarassing one(s)
wick?
salisbury?

because i know that you werent talking about MUC

and you have missed the point of the ooc about ply  etc.

lot of animosity on here today.

Im sorry, i know MU is like the greatest team since the 72 dolphins, but anytime you lose 33-3 that counts as an embarrassing loss in my book.

And a Wick (or anyone in the East) vs MUC game would turn out different?

Sorry we had the stones to play them this year while you were playing your NEFC teams.

OK so next year lets schedule USC, Florida, and Texas Tech and cry about not getting sympathy when we get monkey stomped. If the score was like 33-17 or something then maybe but come on 33-3, including 20-0 at half time? Im sorry but You don't get credit for that. Thats an old fashioned Blow Out as far as im concerned.

[lewdogg11]

max which loss(s) was(were) the embarassing one(s)
wick?
salisbury?

because i know that you werent talking about MUC

and you have missed the point of the ooc about ply  etc.

lot of animosity on here today.

Im sorry, i know MU is like the greatest team since the 72 dolphins, but anytime you lose 33-3 that counts as an embarrassing loss in my book.

And a Wick (or anyone in the East) vs MUC game would turn out different?

Sorry we had the stones to play them this year while you were playing your NEFC teams.

I don't have a problem with Fisher scheduling Mount Union...or Salisbury...BUT...I don't think both should have been scheduled in the same year.  It's a great guage to see where your program is, sure, but the E8 is tough enough...1 tough OOC game is probably enough for a single season, then maybe go middle of the pack.  You don't have to play Mt. Ida, but how bout a Coast Guard, or a William Patterson, or even a WPI or St. lawrence.  Mount Union has been the best for a long time, and Salisbury has been a top tier program for a while now.  Overdoing your schedule gives your players no time to recover, and not much room for error, which Fisher is experiencing now.

I think Fisher probably is one of the 10 best in the East, but because they are so beat down with their schedule, crawling by the Utica's and Springfield's of the world won't buy any votes.

[Jonny Utah]

max which loss(s) was(were) the embarassing one(s)
wick?
salisbury?

because i know that you werent talking about MUC

and you have missed the point of the ooc about ply  etc.

lot of animosity on here today.

Im sorry, i know MU is like the greatest team since the 72 dolphins, but anytime you lose 33-3 that counts as an embarrassing loss in my book.

And a Wick (or anyone in the East) vs MUC game would turn out different?

Sorry we had the stones to play them this year while you were playing your NEFC teams.

I don't have a problem with Fisher scheduling Mount Union...or Salisbury...BUT...I don't think both should have been scheduled in the same year.  It's a great guage to see where your program is, sure, but the E8 is tough enough...1 tough OOC game is probably enough for a single season, then maybe go middle of the pack.  You don't have to play Mt. Ida, but how bout a Coast Guard, or a William Patterson, or even a WPI or St. lawrence.  Mount Union has been the best for a long time, and Salisbury has been a top tier program for a while now.  Overdoing your schedule gives your players no time to recover, and not much room for error, which Fisher is experiencing now.

I think Fisher probably is one of the 10 best in the East, but because they are so beat down with their schedule, crawling by the Utica's and Springfield's of the world won't buy any votes.

I dont have a problem with the schedule either, but if you were a team that was going to win the national championship, you wouldn't have lost 2 of those 3 games.  Its really that simple.  If SJF played this schedule in 2005 then yea, they might have had the #1 ranking in the country possibly.

[dlippiel]

max which loss(s) was(were) the embarassing one(s)
wick?
salisbury?

because i know that you werent talking about MUC

and you have missed the point of the ooc about ply  etc.

lot of animosity on here today.

Im sorry, i know MU is like the greatest team since the 72 dolphins, but anytime you lose 33-3 that counts as an embarrassing loss in my book.

And a Wick (or anyone in the East) vs MUC game would turn out different?

Sorry we had the stones to play them this year while you were playing your NEFC teams.

OK so next year lets schedule USC, Florida, and Texas Tech and cry about not getting sympathy when we get monkey stomped. If the score was like 33-17 or something then maybe but come on 33-3, including 20-0 at half time? Im sorry but You don't get credit for that. Thats an old fashioned Blow Out as far as im concerned.

HHawks listen Wick is starting to get some believers, starting...don't go and ruin by making atrocious points about scheduling. Wick would get more credit for playing some high school teams then scheduling NEFC teams (and in the process losing to two of them last year). You have a ZERO argument when it comes to OOC games. Stick to your head to heads and you will be O.K. for now. I will just say if MUC played Wick I think it would be 20-0 before the kickoff.

[Bombers798891]

I love how '57 keeps touting the "the only object is to win games" argument while trying to promote a 3-loss team...

[theoriginalupstate]

I love how '57 keeps touting the "the only object is to win games" argument while trying to promote a 3-loss team...

Yeah i didnt even try to go down that road to promote or stick up for the team because of their 3 losses but im not going to sit idle when a fan of a team that only has 9 games and their schedule includes Mt Ida and other NEFC cupcakes starts railing on SJF for losing to MUC by 30....

IC do us all a favor and knock off Cortland so MUC gets imported and knocks Team Boltus around by 60...