East Region Fan Poll

[theoriginalupstate]

OK so next year lets schedule USC, Florida, and Texas Tech and cry about not getting sympathy when we get monkey stomped. If the score was like 33-17 or something then maybe but come on 33-3, including 20-0 at half time? Im sorry but You don't get credit for that. Thats an old fashioned Blow Out as far as im concerned.

Im not crying about getting sympathy, im saying you wouldnt do any better and your defense would allow 20 in the first 5 minutes...

[dlippiel]

OK so next year lets schedule USC, Florida, and Texas Tech and cry about not getting sympathy when we get monkey stomped. If the score was like 33-17 or something then maybe but come on 33-3, including 20-0 at half time? Im sorry but You don't get credit for that. Thats an old fashioned Blow Out as far as im concerned.

Im not crying about getting sympathy, im saying you wouldnt do any better and your defense would allow 20 in the first 5 minutes...

Really upstate? I thought 20 before kickoff but I guess I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and concede; 20 in the first five minutes...

[Yanks 99]

I love how '57 keeps touting the "the only object is to win games" argument while trying to promote a 3-loss team...

Yeah i didnt even try to go down that road to promote or stick up for the team because of their 3 losses but im not going to sit idle when a fan of a team that only has 9 games and their schedule includes Mt Ida and other NEFC cupcakes starts railing on SJF for losing to MUC by 30....

IC do us all a favor and knock off Cortland so MUC gets imported and knocks Team Boltus around by 60...

Uh oh...Upstate is sounding bitter again.  Fisher has one more game then us...it isn't like it is 3 or 4.  And cry all you want...we won the head to head.  I will say this...even if we do have this misfortune of playing MUC in the first round...I will still be pleased with the season, as it means we made the playoffs.  That would also mean that you would be watching the game after your ECAC game...

Zing!!!

[theoriginalupstate]

I love how '57 keeps touting the "the only object is to win games" argument while trying to promote a 3-loss team...

Yeah i didnt even try to go down that road to promote or stick up for the team because of their 3 losses but im not going to sit idle when a fan of a team that only has 9 games and their schedule includes Mt Ida and other NEFC cupcakes starts railing on SJF for losing to MUC by 30....

IC do us all a favor and knock off Cortland so MUC gets imported and knocks Team Boltus around by 60...

Uh oh...Upstate is sounding bitter again.  Fisher has one more game then us...it isn't like it is 3 or 4.  And cry all you want...we won the head to head.  I will say this...even if we do have this misfortune of playing MUC in the first round...I will still be pleased with the season, as it means we made the playoffs.  That would also mean that you would be watching the game after your ECAC game...

Zing!!!

at least we didnt lose to curry... no matter what you've done this year or may do in the future games you'll always be known as the scrubs that gave Curry their first NCAA win...

Congrats...

Meanwhile while Team Boltus disintegrates next year SJF will reload and make a run again while Team Boltus wins 4 games...

You had your run, congrats, good luck in the playoffs and lets hope for the E8's sake you dont draw another NEFC team...

[dlippiel]

I love how '57 keeps touting the "the only object is to win games" argument while trying to promote a 3-loss team...

Yeah i didnt even try to go down that road to promote or stick up for the team because of their 3 losses but im not going to sit idle when a fan of a team that only has 9 games and their schedule includes Mt Ida and other NEFC cupcakes starts railing on SJF for losing to MUC by 30....

IC do us all a favor and knock off Cortland so MUC gets imported and knocks Team Boltus around by 60...

Uh oh...Upstate is sounding bitter again.  Fisher has one more game then us...it isn't like it is 3 or 4.  And cry all you want...we won the head to head.  I will say this...even if we do have this misfortune of playing MUC in the first round...I will still be pleased with the season, as it means we made the playoffs.  That would also mean that you would be watching the game after your ECAC game...

Zing!!!

at least we didnt lose to curry... no matter what you've done this year or may do in the future games you'll always be known as the scrubs that gave Curry their first NCAA win...

Congrats...

Meanwhile while Team Boltus disintegrates next year SJF will reload and make a run again while Team Boltus wins 4 games...

You had your run, congrats, good luck in the playoffs and lets hope for the E8's sake you dont draw another NEFC team...

Well said upstate, those NEFC teams will get you:)

[fisheralum91]

hell guys- i am still hoping that springfield beats wick   

what...........it could happen

what?

[theoriginalupstate]

hell guys- i am still hoping that springfield beats wick   

what...........it could happen

what?

Im still looking for an upstart team to upset Team Boltus, hopefully coach Faggiano can work some magic vs Team Boltus...

[fisheralum91]

i respect the hell out of blaise.
he really showed me something on sat.
even tho those kids didnt have the same talent level-- they drank the cool aid and believed they could win.
hats off to him
BEAT WICK

[Knightstalker]

Courtesy of Ron Boerger in Playoff scenarios page.

http://www.ncaa.com/photos/schools/ncaa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/Nov.pdf


EAST REGION

1. Cortland State 8-0 8-0
2. Rensselaer 7-0 7-0
3. Ithaca 6-1 7-1
4. Montclair State 7-1 7-1
5. Rowan 7-1 7-1
6. Hartwick 6-1 6-1
7. Hobart 6-1 6-1
8. Plymouth State 7-1 8-1
9. Husson 6-0 6-2
10. Curry 7-1 8-1

MAC is still out of a C bid as it stands.

[union89]

Courtesy of Ron Boerger in Playoff scenarios page.

http://www.ncaa.com/photos/schools/ncaa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/Nov.pdf


EAST REGION

1. Cortland State 8-0 8-0
2. Rensselaer 7-0 7-0
3. Ithaca 6-1 7-1
4. Montclair State 7-1 7-1
5. Rowan 7-1 7-1
6. Hartwick 6-1 6-1
7. Hobart 6-1 6-1
8. Plymouth State 7-1 8-1
9. Husson 6-0 6-2
10. Curry 7-1 8-1

MAC is still out of a C bid as it stands.

Plymouth, Husson & Curry............YIKES.........

[theoriginalupstate]

Courtesy of Ron Boerger in Playoff scenarios page.

http://www.ncaa.com/photos/schools/ncaa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/Nov.pdf


EAST REGION

1. Cortland State 8-0 8-0
2. Rensselaer 7-0 7-0
3. Ithaca 6-1 7-1
4. Montclair State 7-1 7-1
5. Rowan 7-1 7-1
6. Hartwick 6-1 6-1
7. Hobart 6-1 6-1
8. Plymouth State 7-1 8-1
9. Husson 6-0 6-2
10. Curry 7-1 8-1

MAC is still out of a C bid as it stands.

Plymouth, Husson & Curry............YIKES.........

Chances are that only one will get in because all three are ranked below #8 and there isnt even a MAC team on the list...

[redswarm81]

Courtesy of Ron Boerger in Playoff scenarios page.

http://www.ncaa.com/photos/schools/ncaa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/Nov.pdf


EAST REGION

1. Cortland State 8-0 8-0
2. Rensselaer 7-0 7-0
3. Ithaca 6-1 7-1
4. Montclair State 7-1 7-1
5. Rowan 7-1 7-1
6. Hartwick 6-1 6-1
7. Hobart 6-1 6-1
8. Plymouth State 7-1 8-1
9. Husson 6-0 6-2
10. Curry 7-1 8-1

MAC is still out of a C bid as it stands.

I think the Selection Committee would have to give more consideration to SJF, with 1 loss in-Region, than they would give to any MAC teams, since all MAC teams have at least 2 in-Region losses.

What piques my curiosity is whether they picked Curry over SJF based on primary criteria, i.e. winning percentage, OWP/OOWP, and record v. RROs; or whether they went to secondary criteria, where they'd consider overall D-III record.

East Region Fan Poll - Week 9 (11/3/08)

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	Cortland State ( 9 )	8-0	99	1	vs. Brockport state
2	RPI ( 1 )	7-0	88	2	vs. #7 Hobart
3	Ithaca	7-1	80	3	at #10 Alfred
4	Hartwick	6-1	59	4	at Springfield
5	Rowan	7-1	53	5	at #6 Montclair State
6	Montclair State	7-1	50	6	vs. #5 Rowan
7	Hobart	6-1	45	8	at #2 RPI
8	Lycoming	6-2	29	10	at King's
9	Albright	6-2	17	NR	vs. Widener
10	Alfred	6-2	15	NR	vs. #3 Ithaca

Others Receiving votes:      

St. John Fisher 9,
Delaware Valley 2,
Trinity 2,
WPI 1,
Brockport State 1


Dropping out: St. John Fisher #7, WPI #9

[SJFF82]

I actually feel that SJF is a middle of the pack team in the east and would have a hard time with Kean, Union, B-Port, WPI, FDU, Widener etc this season.

This is precisely what I implied in a post a couple weeks ago....that an 8-1 SJF team with even 1 pt wins over any of those teams mentioned above (a struggle correct?), and there present less than stellar game results ag. Springfield, Roch and Utica, would, rightly or wrongly, still have them sitting high up the East rankings following back to back Final Four and Final 8 teams.  So my question still is.....assuming they would beat 'Port by 1 or WPI by 1 instead of losing to #1 by 30 and #16 by 3 in 4ot, explain their ranking.   My explanation is: 3 losses with struggles against other weak teams means the benefit of the doubt afforded a 8-1 team with struggles is lost...consequently...SJF has sufficiently earned their lack of ranking...to date.

[Bombers798891]

I actually feel that SJF is a middle of the pack team in the east and would have a hard time with Kean, Union, B-Port, WPI, FDU, Widener etc this season.

This is precisely what I implied in a post a couple weeks ago....that an 8-1 SJF team with even 1 pt wins over any of those teams mentioned above (a struggle correct?), and there present less than stellar game results ag. Springfield, Roch and Utica, would, rightly or wrongly, still have them sitting high up the East rankings following back to back Final Four and Final 8 teams.  So my question still is.....assuming they would beat 'Port by 1 or WPI by 1 instead of losing to #1 by 30 and #16 by 3 in 4ot, explain their ranking.   My explanation is: 3 losses with struggles against other weak teams means the benefit of the doubt afforded a 8-1 team with struggles is lost...consequently...SJF has sufficiently earned their lack of ranking...to date.

It's possible. I think we'd be more forgiving of SJF if they'd handily beaten Rochester, Springfield and Utica.

[boobyhasgameyo]

If it weren't for the two shady performances against Springfield and especially Utica I would still be defending to the death that this Fisher team is getting unjustly slammed...But they have been very unimpressive as of late.  I do however think that in the playoffs they could give any team in the East a run for their money.  People are acting as if Fisher is a run of the mill average team and that somebody like Cortland would run through them.  Well outside of Mount Union which is in another region and on another level, there is no team in the East that could blow out Fisher by say more than 2 touchdowns.  Just wouldn't happen....They would be close games and I'd venture to say Fisher would come out on the winning end more times than not against these other Eastern Region playoff teams.  I mean it's not like Salisbury and Hartwick buried us, it took phenomenal efforts on their part combined with Fisher mistakes to actually pull out the wins.