Pool C -- 2007

Started by Ralph Turner, September 21, 2007, 05:47:39 PM

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smedindy

I personally would put in Wheaton ahead of Wittenberg. Both would be behind 8-2 Bethel.
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Carl Menist

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 09, 2007, 03:23:01 PM
Waynesburg is the only "C" possible in the South, far as I can see.

At least, barring an '03 style collapse tomorrow.

I don't get it all, seems if Waynesburg is in the hunt if a South Region team gets a Pool C shot, that Millsaps would be in front of them based on the fact that Millsaps is ranked 8th in this weeks poll and Waynesburg is 10th.

Can't see allot changing with Millsaps OWP / SOS numbers since B'ham Southern is a provisional team this year. Think the Panther's will play hard and can't be taken lightly. We have them in the friendly confines of Davis Stadium and should be ready for a good game especially with the unanticipated ray of hope for a playoff spot, small as it may be. Comparatively Millsaps has 2 region losses, Waynesburg 1. Both are 7-2 overall. Following gare the SOS and OWPs --- Millsaps - SOS / 62 ; OWP / 54.1 - Waynesburg - SOS / 187 ; OWP / 42.4.

A record setting game like last week on the road against a Colorado College team that has played several good teams tough and isn't bad , (68 to 6), isn't out of the question and could get the committees attention on a subjective basis.

How do you figure Wayneburg ahead of a team now ranked ahead of them by two spots?

Personally I would like to see all the South teams get in.

if the committee weighs the numbers more heavily than less, I think we have a shot at a Pool C bid.

It will be interesting.

As an aside, I know the committee looks at the season as a whole, but even if I was a 1 loss team going into tomorrow, I would not want to lose the last game of the season.
That can't be a good thing.

There are allot of teams in the 40 teams ranked regionally playing each other. will be interesting to see how losses to those teams effects the final brackets.

I appreciate your points of view and insight. There are so many good teams to choose from it will be hard to make a bad choice.

Having a son out there on the field gives fair cause for me to biased and hopeful.

Bout time to tee it up!!!

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: smedindy on November 09, 2007, 05:33:43 PM
I personally would put in Wheaton ahead of Wittenberg. Both would be behind 8-2 Bethel.

An 8-2 Carthage might beat out an 8-2 Wheaton due to h-to-h (SOS would be similar, probably slight advantage to Wheaton); if it was an 8-2 NCC, SOS would again be similar, but Wheaton would have the h-to-h.

I'm not sure why Bethel is viewed as above the 8-2 CCIW teams.  Their current OWP is a very weak .486 (though, of course, playing 9-0 St John's on Saturday will raise that); their OOWP is currently a very good .598, but since St. John's OWP is currently only .482, that may actually fall a bit on Saturday.  St. John's will be their ONLY regionally-ranked opponent, so they would be 0-1.  What am I missing on the certainty people have about Bethel - geography?

A wild card if Wheaton loses to IWU would be whether or not IWU re-enters the regional rankings (and, alas, we will never know!) - if so, that would be a plus for NCC, a minus for Carthage and Wheaton.

Bob.Gregg

Quote from: Carl Menist on November 09, 2007, 06:10:06 PM
I don't get it all, seems if Waynesburg is in the hunt if a South Region team gets a Pool C shot, that Millsaps would be in front of them based on the fact that Millsaps is ranked 8th in this weeks poll and Waynesburg is 10th.


It's simple.  I had a significant brain cramp when I wrote that, twice....

Sorry...
Been wrong before.  Will be wrong again.

Bob.Gregg

I've put all the conference races, key games, head-to-head tiebreakers, AQ berths, Pool B & C eligibles all in one place:

http://www.wjpa.com/All-in-One-Races.htm

Hope someone else finds this useful today...
Been wrong before.  Will be wrong again.

Just Bill

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 10, 2007, 09:51:23 AM
I've put all the conference races, key games, head-to-head tiebreakers, AQ berths, Pool B & C eligibles all in one place:

http://www.wjpa.com/All-in-One-Races.htm

Hope someone else finds this useful today...


That's VERY good Bob!  Color me impressed.
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Ralph Turner

Ithaca 26, Cortland St 7; 2Q 5:30

labart96

Well, Hobart won but didn't get help from Union, so it looks like we have to hope that our #5 Final East Region ranking, plus the 7 game win streak, SoS, etc add up to our 4th consecutive invitation to the dance.

Ralph Turner

#278
Hampden-Sydney 34-13.  ODAC AQ winner at 8-2/8-2/5-1

RMC to Pool C with 8-2/8-2/5-1 and co-champs.



Per algernon, the ODAC does not award Co-Championships.

Mr. Ypsi

Case wins to finish 10-0 and clinch a B (and B#4 may take a C).

Wabash loses - doesn't affect pool C (they had already clinched the NCAC AQ), but shakes up the North seedings.

sju56321

SJU loses by being out-coached in the second half-so there goes one pool C to SJU and AQ to Bethel.

downtown48

St. John's losing can't help Whitworth or Redlands...

HScoach

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Ralph Turner

Central 17, Wartburg 14.


Mr. Ypsi

Final from Bloomington: IWU 18, Wheaton 14.  NCC takes the CCIW AQ; Wheaton is probably knocked completely out, though they may still be a bubble-C.