Pool C -- 2007

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Bob.Gregg

Quote from: johnnie_esq on November 10, 2007, 10:32:59 PM
...Whitworth should be considered 8-1 in region and 8-2 overall. 

If that is the case, there are 7 one D3 loss teams and 7 Pool C births.  That could make life very easy for the committee.

IF Oxy wins, here's what I have for one-loss In-Region teams battling for 7 Pool C bids:

Team  In-Region  OWP ranking (updated)
Redlands 7-1 (# 62)
Occidental 8-1 (#210)
Whitworth 8-1 (#122)
St. John Fisher 9-1 (#115)
St. John's 8-1 (#87)
Mt. St. Joseph 9-1 (#152)
Plymouth State 8-1 (#101)
Waynesburg 7-1 (#186)

That's eight teams for seven spots, even IF you can just use the region record alone.


Here's what's just below those one-loss teams:

Wheaton 8-2 (# 24)
Hobart 8-2 (# 25)
Wartburg 8-2 (# 30)
Millsaps 7-2 (# 38)
St. Olaf 8-2 (# 39)
Capital 8-2 (# 46)
DePauw 7-2 (# 54)
Wittenberg 8-2 (# 55)

That's eight teams with on more In-Region loss, all with better OWP rankings than the eight teams in the first list.
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Bob.Gregg

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 10, 2007, 10:51:53 PM

IF Oxy wins...

Struggling with Whittier, 27-14 at the moment...
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Ron Boerger

Oxy driving right back and scores on a 3- or 4-play drive.  27-21 now. 

altor

Since a Whittier win opens up possibly two Pool C spots, I think every 2-loss team (and some 1-loss teams) in the country has become Poets fans.

johnnie_esq

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In the West, based upon the regional rankings, the Committee seemed to pretty much minimize the emphasis on the Strength of Schedule, as illustrated by the selection of UWEC as #10 over St. Olaf.  If they are consistent on that approach, they could make life very easy for themselves and throw out those two in-region loss teams and just deal with those with one loss.

Then, it should come down between Whitworth and Waynesburg for that last spot.

Edit: I meant Waynesburg, not Mississippi College.
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Ron Boerger

Oxy up 28-27 with about a minute to play in the first half.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 10, 2007, 09:59:44 PM
Actually, guys, it CAN be considered....

"Should a committee find that evaluation of a team's win-loss percentage during the last 25 percent of the season is applicable (i.e., end of season performance), it may adopt such criteria with approval from the championships committee."


I asked this week and was told it was not being considered.
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Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 10, 2007, 09:45:35 PM
I checked the SOS and see that it has been updated for teams whose results are already known - will it be updated throughout the night for late scores?

I thought Wheaton was probably a goner, but they have the highest SOS of any 8-2 pool-C candidate.

Yeah, that page is automatically updated.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

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Quote from: johnnie_esq on November 10, 2007, 11:20:35 PM
In the West, based upon the regional rankings, the Committee seemed to pretty much minimize the emphasis on the Strength of Schedule, as illustrated by the selection of UWEC as #10 over St. Olaf.  If they are consistent on that approach, they could make life very easy for themselves and throw out those two in-region loss teams and just deal with those with one loss.

Then, it should come down between Whitworth and Mississippi College for that last spot.

Mississippi College has two in-region losses...Hardin-Simmons & Mary Hardin-Baylor...
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johnnie_esq

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 10, 2007, 11:29:04 PM
Quote from: johnnie_esq on November 10, 2007, 11:20:35 PM
In the West, based upon the regional rankings, the Committee seemed to pretty much minimize the emphasis on the Strength of Schedule, as illustrated by the selection of UWEC as #10 over St. Olaf.  If they are consistent on that approach, they could make life very easy for themselves and throw out those two in-region loss teams and just deal with those with one loss.

Then, it should come down between Whitworth and Mississippi College for that last spot.

Mississippi College has two in-region losses...Hardin-Simmons & Mary Hardin-Baylor...

Not to nit-pick, but your current update shows them with one.
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Bob.Gregg

Not nit-picking at all.  Thanks for the heads up.

Too many pieces of paper, and transfers from paper to keyboard...

Thanks
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johnnie_esq

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 10, 2007, 11:37:06 PM
Not nit-picking at all.  Thanks for the heads up.

Too many pieces of paper, and transfers from paper to keyboard...

Thanks

You've done a great job! Thanks for doing it!
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Bob.Gregg

Pool C Fans are jumping up & down across the land.

Late in third:  Whittier 47, Occidental 28
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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 11, 2007, 12:29:00 AM
Pool C Fans are jumping up & down across the land.

Late in third:  Whittier 47, Occidental 28

Go Poets!!

And I don't even have a team in the race, but I'd like to see our 'victim' (Wheaton) make it (that would raise IWU's record against playoff teams to 2-2).

altor

Is it just me, or is this the longest D-III game ever?  Over 2.5 hours right now and just finished the 3rd quarter.  You'd think they had a bunch of TV timeouts.

Bring back the 2006 timing rules!  I have to get up for church in the morning.  :P