Pool C -- 2007

[VOJ]

Pat and anyone else who wants to chime in...from what the strength of schedule shows me St. John's should be ahead of UWW in the west region rankings IF and I stress IF you look at the number of regional wins, strength of schedule and the other factors?

Just wondering

[smedindy]

I was just doing some thinking about some teams in the North region (or associated with them).

If (when) Capital loses to Mt. Union, they will have two losses. The rest of the OAC is beating up on each other, as usual.

The CCIW is emulating them, so they're only going to get one bid unless Illinois Wesleyan comes through and beats Wheaton. That's a big UNLESS.

With the excellent seasons by Case and Wash U., and with the HCAC finishing with two one-loss teams, then could we see the UAA and HCAC with two bids, while the OAC and CCIW with just one bid?

[usee]

I was just doing some thinking about some teams in the North region (or associated with them).

If (when) Capital loses to Mt. Union, they will have two losses. The rest of the OAC is beating up on each other, as usual.

The CCIW is emulating them, so they're only going to get one bid unless Illinois Wesleyan comes through and beats Wheaton. That's a big UNLESS.

With the excellent seasons by Case and Wash U., and with the HCAC finishing with two one-loss teams, then could we see the UAA and HCAC with two bids, while the OAC and CCIW with just one bid?

That could happen but keep in mind if Case Beats WashU then washU is out w 2 losses (their other loss was 55-10 loss to Wheaton).

[smedindy]

Yes, of course. If Case beats Wash U. then I bet that opens the door for a strong 2-loss team to get in there.

[altor]

If I did everything correctly, there are 16 teams from Pool A conferences who could end the season with 1 loss and not win their AQ.

Here's the breakdown.  Note that all of this is possible, not probable.  Many of these teams will probably take their conference AQ leaving 2nd place with 2 or more losses.  Also, this does not include the teams who could be left out of Pool B with only 1 loss.  You can read the Pool B thread to figure that out.

I believe I have checked everyone for out of region losses.

East (5)
E8 - Possible 3-way tie.  If Hartwick wins tie-breaker, leaves Alfred and SJF with 1 loss in Pool C.
LL - RPI loss to Union leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C.
MAC - 2nd will have 2 losses.
NEFC - Plymouth St could finish with 1 loss.  If Curry loses Championship Game, also possible 1 loss team.
NJAC - 2nd will have 2 losses.

North (3)
CCIW - Wheaton loss to Illinois Wesleyan leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C.
HCAC - Mt St Joe could finish with 1 loss.
IBC - 2nd will have 2 losses.
MIAA - 2nd will have 2 losses.
NCAC - 2nd will have 2 losses.
OAC - MUC loss to Capital leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C.

South (3)
ASC - UMBH loss to East Texas Baptist leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C.
CC - 2nd will have 2 losses.
ODAC - If Hampden-Sydney and Bridgewater win out, Bridgewater will have 1 loss in Pool C.
PAC - Loser of Waynesburg/Wash&Jeff could finish with 1 loss.
SCAC - 2nd will have 2 losses.
USAC - 2nd will have 2 losses.

West (5)
IIAC - Central loss to Wartburg leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C.
MIAC - St. John's loss to Bethel leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C.
MWC - 2nd will have 2 losses.
SCIAC - Possible 3-way tie could leave Occidental and Redlands with 1 loss in Pool C.
WIAC - UW-Stevens Point could finish with 1 loss.


Edited because I missed the possible ODAC scenario until I listened to the podcast.

[Pat Coleman]

Pat and anyone else who wants to chime in...from what the strength of schedule shows me St. John's should be ahead of UWW in the west region rankings IF and I stress IF you look at the number of regional wins, strength of schedule and the other factors?

Just wondering

Well, that's possible, but after SJU played Hamline and UWW played UWSP, those numbers will shift a bit. We'll have new numbers tomorrow, I believe, from Presto.

[Ralph Turner]

altor, +1 for listening to the podcast! 

[Llamaguy]

Yes, of course. If Case beats Wash U. then I bet that opens the door for a strong 2-loss team to get in there.

I wouldn't be too high on CWR if they lose a game. Their current OWP = 0.347. If they dropped into a group of 1 regional loss Pool C's I doubt they get in. They need to win out in my opinion. FWIW

[DutchFan2004]

Does D3 have a link or page where the keep the OWP/OOWP like they had the QWI last year?

[Ron Boerger]

The new numbers don't seem to have a permanent home yet ... here are last week's:

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2007/10/18/Strength+of+schedule

There may be another daily dose post later this week with updates.

[DutchFan2004]

Thanks Ron I had seen those numbers.  They are now two weeks old.  I was just wondering if someone was keeping current numbers someplace and the answer must be no.  Thanks for the help 

[Pat Coleman]

SOS numbers now have a home on the left rail of the front page (and other news pages).

[DutchFan2004]

Thanks Pat!!!+k for seeing to our needs.

[VOJ]

Hey Pat...I thought the regional rankings were supposed to be out this week...no dice however I guess...have you seen them?

[wally_wabash]

I believe Wednesday has traditionally been regional rankings day...stay tuned.