Pool C -- 2007

[K-Mack]

Why Nov. 10? Linfield plays at Whitworth (again?) Nov. 3.

[MonroviaCat]

Why Nov. 10? Linfield plays at Whitworth (again?) Nov. 3.

Still gotta beat Lewis and Clark

[K-Mack]

My bust. 

[d-train]

Why Nov. 10? Linfield plays at Whitworth (again?) Nov. 3.

The NWC's best candidate will be determined on Nov. 3rd. But unless Salibury eliminates Wesley, I think there's still a huge question mark (on the NWC hopes) until we know if the likes of SJU, Central, and Alfred earn their Pool A or eat up a Pool C (they all have huge games on the 10th). That's what I meant. Oh, and no...Linfield and Whitworth haven't played since last year - and that one was played in McMinnville.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Why Nov. 10? Linfield plays at Whitworth (again?) Nov. 3.

The NWC's best candidate will be determined on Nov. 3rd. But unless Salibury eliminates Wesley, I think there's still a huge question mark (on the NWC hopes) until we know if the likes of SJU, Central, and Alfred earn their Pool A or eat up a Pool C (they all have huge games on the 10th). That's what I meant. Oh, and no...Linfield and Whitworth haven't played since last year - and that one was played in McMinnville.

And don't forget Wheaton (IL), who also on the 10th travels to Bloomington to play co-CCIW leader IWU.

[K-Mack]

Why Nov. 10? Linfield plays at Whitworth (again?) Nov. 3.

The NWC's best candidate will be determined on Nov. 3rd. But unless Salibury eliminates Wesley, I think there's still a huge question mark (on the NWC hopes) until we know if the likes of SJU, Central, and Alfred earn their Pool A or eat up a Pool C (they all have huge games on the 10th). That's what I meant. Oh, and no...Linfield and Whitworth haven't played since last year - and that one was played in McMinnville.

And don't forget Wheaton (IL), who also on the 10th travels to Bloomington to play co-CCIW leader IWU.

I'm told that one shouldn't be a problem

D-train ... fair enough.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Why Nov. 10? Linfield plays at Whitworth (again?) Nov. 3.

The NWC's best candidate will be determined on Nov. 3rd. But unless Salibury eliminates Wesley, I think there's still a huge question mark (on the NWC hopes) until we know if the likes of SJU, Central, and Alfred earn their Pool A or eat up a Pool C (they all have huge games on the 10th). That's what I meant. Oh, and no...Linfield and Whitworth haven't played since last year - and that one was played in McMinnville.

And don't forget Wheaton (IL), who also on the 10th travels to Bloomington to play co-CCIW leader IWU.

I'm told that one shouldn't be a problem

D-train ... fair enough.

Well, I'm pretty sure it wasn't Mike Swider you heard that from!  Though many no doubt felt that way in 2005, when the Titans were downright awful but wrecked Wheaton's season.  This year we can take 'their' AQ!

[repete]

With Stevens Point losing today, I'm guessing that all but takes a second WIAC team out of the playoff mix, eh? "Perfect storm" mathematical possibilities exist but it's hard to see anybody but UWW.

[old ends]

Well the South Region just went for a ride on a roller coaster. 60% of the top ten lost today. That may close the door for some hopefulls. In the CC if Ursinus wins out could may give two teams from that conference a bid..  the next two weeks could be a whole lot of fun.

[altor]

East (5) (4)
E8 - Possible 3-way tie, could leave SJF with 1 loss in Pool C.  If Hartwick wins tie-breaker, leaves Alfred and SJF with 1 loss in Pool C.
LL - RPI loss to Union leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C.
NEFC - Plymouth St could finish with 1 loss.  If Curry loses Championship Game, also possible 1 loss team.

North (3) (2)
CCIW - Wheaton loss to Illinois Wesleyan leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C.
HCAC - Mt St Joe could finish with 1 loss.
OAC - MUC loss to Capital leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C. 2nd will have 2 losses.

South (3) (2)
ASC - UMBH loss to East Texas Baptist leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C. Loser will have 2 losses.
CC - 2nd will have 2 losses. Muhlenberg loss to Usinus leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C.  *
ODAC - If Hampden-Sydney and Bridgewater win out, Bridgewater will have 1 loss in Pool C. Loser will have 2 losses.
PAC - Loser of Waynesburg/Wash&Jeff Waynesburg could finish with 1 loss.

West (5) (4)
IIAC - Central loss to Wartburg leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C.
MIAC - St. John's loss to Bethel leaves them with 1 loss in Pool C.
SCIAC - Possible 3-way tie could leave Occidental and Redlands with 1 loss in Pool C.  **
WIAC - UW-Stevens Point could finish with 1 loss. 2nd will have 2 losses.

Pool B (1) - These teams could finish with 1 loss or less.  If so, one will not get a Pool B bid.
Case Western Reserve (8-0/6-0)
Wesley (8-1/6-1)
Salisbury (8-1/4-1)
Winner of Whitworth (5-2/5-1) and Linfield (5-2/4-1)

* I don't know how I goofed on a second conference last week, but I did, and a rather obvious scenario at that.  Somebody better check me on the others.

** Occidental and Cal Lutheran playing now.

[smedindy]

Wash U. loses today, so if they beat Case then Case will have a chance at a "C", but it may be an outside chance.

[K-Mack]

Why Nov. 10? Linfield plays at Whitworth (again?) Nov. 3.

The NWC's best candidate will be determined on Nov. 3rd. But unless Salibury eliminates Wesley, I think there's still a huge question mark (on the NWC hopes) until we know if the likes of SJU, Central, and Alfred earn their Pool A or eat up a Pool C (they all have huge games on the 10th). That's what I meant. Oh, and no...Linfield and Whitworth haven't played since last year - and that one was played in McMinnville.

And don't forget Wheaton (IL), who also on the 10th travels to Bloomington to play co-CCIW leader IWU.

I'm told that one shouldn't be a problem

D-train ... fair enough.

Well, I'm pretty sure it wasn't Mike Swider you heard that from!  Though many no doubt felt that way in 2005, when the Titans were downright awful but wrecked Wheaton's season.  This year we can take 'their' AQ!

No, it wasn't Mike ... someone who's seen them play didn't think it would be a great game, but others did. I didn't mentioned them though, was trying to get your goat (or however the phrase goes)

The North Park result today is interesting, but regardless ... if the AQ is on the line, it's gonna be a great game.

I also think IWU and R-MC represent two of the biggest surprises of the year ... still.

Smed, I think Case is in good B shape even if they lose. They would have 1 D3 loss just like Salisbury, Wesley and the Linfield/Whitworth winner.

Yeah, you're right too though ... the fourth B team has a good C shot.

[K-Mack]

Altor,
Good stuff.

  Four Liberty League teams are still in the mix, and they all play other top four teams in their final two games.

So let's work it out.

RPI 5-0, 7-0 vs. Rochester, at Union; earlier 35-31 at Hobart
Union 5-0, 5-2 vs. Hobart, vs. RPI; earlier 13-7 win at Rochester
Hobart 4-1, 6-2 at Union, at Rochester; earlier 35-31 loss to RPI
Rochester 4-1, 5-3 wins at RPI, vs. Hobart; earlier 13-7 loss vs. Union.

OK, so let's look at the possibilties.

RPI and Hobart win out; RPI wins.
Union and Rochester

(will finish later)

[altor]

I was just trying to figure out all the possible teams that could have 1 regional loss and not win their AQ.

I guess I missed some scenarios there with the LL, but the end result is that only RPI fits this category.

[K-Mack]

I was just trying to figure out all the possible teams that could have 1 regional loss and not win their AQ.

I guess I missed some scenarios there with the LL, but the end result is that only RPI fits this category.

Yeah,
I began to realize that wasn't the place for what I was getting ready to figure out, and since there was plenty of other stuff to do last night, plus since the LL board has probably figured it out five ways to Sunday, I aborted mission.