BB: Pitcher of the Year Candidates

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bbnag101

We shall let the numbers speak for themselves.... Looks like it will be a tight race for most of them :)


               Player    ERA   W-L   APP   GS   CG   SHO/CBP   SV   IP  H   R    ER    BB    SO   2B   3B   HR   AB   B/Avg
   Chez Angeloni    4.32   9-0     14    11     4        0/0         0   73   81   36    35   14   53   18   1    2     286   0.283
                                                      
     Blake Booher   2.06   11-1   14   14   4   3/2   0   91.2   62   25   21   27   84   10   1   3   329   0.188
                                                       
   Jeremiah Bayer   1.33   9-0   17   9   1   0/2   1   81   55   22   12   17   71               
                                                      
          Joe Devlin   1.04   9-0   18   9   3   1/0   3   69.1   60   14   8   15   38   11   1   0   259   0.232
                                                      
     Adam Gingras   1.7   8-0   10   10   2   2/1   0   68.2   49   15   13   11   47   6   1   2   246   0.199
                                                      
  Wayde Kitchens   1.1   9-0   12   11   3   3/1   0   73.1   41   12   9   36   70   6   0   1   244   0.168
                                                      
   Jeremy Rubens   2.27   10-2   21   4   4   0/0   7   83.1   86   26   21   10   37   8   4   7   320   0.269
                                                      
         Matt Tone   2.39   8-0   11   11   1   1/1   0   67.2   42   20   18   36   88   7   1   4   234   0.179                       
** Please note that Trinity did not have the same style stats as the other websites, so I wasn't able to get the last few items on Jeremiah Bayer.**  And sorry for the columns not being straight- i inserted excel table several times, but was unable to get it to lineup.

d3baseballnut

Everyone-

Regarding Chez Angeloni, the kid was 9-0 during the season, 2-0 during the World Series, and beat 3 top 5 teams in his final 3 starts of the season. You guys can hate on the kid all you want, but there is no doubt he belongs in the conversation.

And btw, I think World Series MVP is a fairly big deal. The fact is, he beat the "best" pitcher in the country and undefeated trinity in his last start just to top it all off. He almost single-handedly carried hopkins to the championship game which they should have won. He's a big time pitcher. Maybe you guys want stat-padders, but I want the guy who is gonna win the Regional Championship game on 1 days rest.



baseballroxmysox

Quote from: d3baseballnut on January 17, 2009, 11:13:56 PM
Everyone-

Regarding Chez Angeloni, the kid was 9-0 during the season, 2-0 during the World Series, and beat 3 top 5 teams in his final 3 starts of the season. You guys can hate on the kid all you want, but there is no doubt he belongs in the conversation.

And btw, I think World Series MVP is a fairly big deal. The fact is, he beat the "best" pitcher in the country and undefeated trinity in his last start just to top it all off. He almost single-handedly carried hopkins to the championship game which they should have won. He's a big time pitcher. Maybe you guys want stat-padders, but I want the guy who is gonna win the Regional Championship game on 1 days rest.




It is a VERY high honor to win and he deserved it for the way he pitched.  I saw him pitch at the WS and he was doing awesome. 

baseballroxmysox

Quote from: LightsOutLidge on January 17, 2009, 09:48:49 PM
Could be that. Sounds like someone has some experience... Or it could be response to the mass e-mail thats been out. the one i responded to and fwd to some of my friends. Interesting theory tho...

I never thought of the mass email idea, he has a good marketing department behind him :)

bulldozer

Quote from: d3baseballnut on January 17, 2009, 11:13:56 PM
Everyone-

Regarding Chez Angeloni, the kid was 9-0 during the season, 2-0 during the World Series, and beat 3 top 5 teams in his final 3 starts of the season. You guys can hate on the kid all you want, but there is no doubt he belongs in the conversation.

And btw, I think World Series MVP is a fairly big deal. The fact is, he beat the "best" pitcher in the country and undefeated trinity in his last start just to top it all off. He almost single-handedly carried hopkins to the championship game which they should have won. He's a big time pitcher. Maybe you guys want stat-padders, but I want the guy who is gonna win the Regional Championship game on 1 days rest.




I understand that Angeloni comes through in big games, and that is a tremendous trait for a pitcher to have.  However, correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the "pitcher of the year" award and the numerous all-american distinctions take into account the enitre body of work for the pitcher throughout the entire season?  If Angeloni goes out and puts up a sub 3.00 ERA AND carries his team through the playoffs like last year, then I could say he deserves consideration for the award. 

D3Lunatic

1 day of rest? Thats rediculous. That was a win over Salisbury, Is that an actual fact?

Burnitup

I dont know what the whole big deal lis this one guy is idolizing Chez Angeloni like he is the best pitcher on the face of the planet. As posted by BBnag there were other pitchers that had perfect records in season.  Jeremiah Bayer, Joe Devlin, Adam Gingras, Wayde Kitchens, and Matt Tone. The other two pitcher lost only a couple games. They are all grea players and deserve the award of best pitcher. Looks at the numbers from the season it is about consistency not a couple good games. Only because JHU had an overall great offense and defense they won. Joe Devlin had more app and a lower era than Chez if any other teams were seen and analyzed this conversation would be abot them. Take a long look at all the pitchers Chez Angeloni in my book would not be on the top of my list.

LightsOutLidge

I dont know what games you saw but JHU defense struggled in my opinion. Do you have the DVDs from the series? I do, watch them, and you'll agree Angeloni is on the list.

Also, where is Dave Kahn's name on this list? Its like he didn't even start a game... No one knows about this dark horse. What a joke!

D3Lunatic

The case has been made for Angeloni, he has a lot of support.

Lets see how he progresses throughout the season coming off that big CWS. Hoipkins lost a lot of starters and they will have to win with Emr, Youchak, and Angeloni for Angeloni to stay in the discussion.

I like Matt Tone, and think he should be favored.


LightsOutLidge

I agree.

Speaking of dominant lefties. Has anyone heard of Marco Simmons?

OshDude

#190
Besides the preseason AA guys, there are plenty of candidates for postseason AA pitcher and Pitcher of the Year. Yes, that includes some guy from JHU. Here are some of my favorite AA candidates not named to the preseason teams. Go ahead and peruse their stats. Some more than others, but all of these guys could be worthy. Hyping a guy in mid-January, with all of these candidates (and probably several more), is awesome. Add the nine preseason AA pitchers to the ones below and try to pick nine "locks" right now let alone the best.

D3baseball.com All-Americans
Wayde Kitchens, Chapman
Blake Booher, Tyler
Jeremiah Bayer, Trinity (Conn.)
Adam Gingras, Wheaton (Mass.)
Matt Tone, Cortland
Jeremy Rubens, Oshkosh
Steve Matre, Mount St. Joseph
Peter Burg, St. Scholastica
Eric Willey, Salisbury

The "others"
Brett Holland, Tyler
Evan Bronson, Trinity (TX)
Garrett Dorn, Linfield
Aaron Dott, Whitewater
Brent Kulavic, IL Wesleyan (if he pitches this year)
Joe Devlin, Lynchburg
Chuck Nicholas, Alvernia
Robert Bleeker, Pacific Lutheran
Ben Moore, NC Wesleyan
TJ Knowlton, Marietta
Dustin Herbert, Salisbury
Joe Bartlinski, Kean
Keegan Leckrone, Wabash
James Murrey, Macalester
David Koerbel, PS-Behrend
Matt Aronson, IL Wesleyan
Chez Angeloni, Johns Hopkins
Zeb Engle, Ursinus
Byron Mendenhall, Randolph-Macon
Gary Bulman, VA Wesleyan
Tony Evanko, John Carroll
John Lunardi, Susquehanna
Josh Tedesco, Thiel
Dan Delia, Suffolk
Mark Miller, Wooster
Brandon Aich, Kean
Matt Schuld, St. Thomas
Jeff Feigl, Salisbury
Derek Eitel, Rose-Hulman
Colin Warner, Wesley
Adam Kohls, Luther
Spencer Shelton, Piedmont
Andy Lowe, Heidelberg
Blair Veenema, Rochester
Robert Whitenack, Old Westbury
Dan Benz, Williams
Billy Schmitt, Wartburg
Adian Kummet, St. Scholastica
Michael Park, Rochester
Todd Mathison, St. Olaf
Ben McCracken, Pitt-Bradford
Everett Thomas, Heidelberg
Anthony Trapuzzano, Wooster
Brian Hurld, Roger Williams
Matt Kudlik, Concordia Chicago
Chris Sandini, Wentworth
Chris Stoudt, Alvernia
Nate Pocock, Calvin
Ian Poole, Wash & Jeff
Trevin Hillesheim, St. Norbert
Jared Sass, Simpson
Jason Pizzoferrato, Western New England
Andrew Aizenstadt, Babson
Kyle Cousins, Calvin
Matt Ryckman, Emory
Peter Steiner, Calvin
and ... Andrew Martin, Thomas (Where did he go? Didn't see him on the TC roster, but he had good numbers)

Burnitup

never heard of simmons i checked him up and couldnt find anything. Any guess on who will be going to CWS. based on facts and not your favorite school or players because we all would pick our favorite one. JHU did lose some good players and has only a few returning. I believe the same goes for Chapman.

Burnitup

also it may always be a pitchers duel out there but i think this year the pitchers are going to be at war because a lot of the good hitters are gone.

d3baseballnut

Quote1 day of rest? Thats rediculous. That was a win over Salisbury, Is that an actual fact?


That is an actual fact.

Angeloni started and threw 5.1 innnings against Randolph Macon on Thursday, May 15th.

On Saturday, May 17th, Angeloni came in during the 3rd inning against Salisbury in the South Regional Championship game. He threw 7.1 innings against Salisbury giving up 1 ER.

It was truly an MVP performance.

bulldozer

Quote from: d3baseballnut on January 19, 2009, 01:28:23 PM
Quote1 day of rest? Thats rediculous. That was a win over Salisbury, Is that an actual fact?


That is an actual fact.

Angeloni started and threw 5.1 innnings against Randolph Macon on Thursday, May 15th.

On Saturday, May 17th, Angeloni came in during the 3rd inning against Salisbury in the South Regional Championship game. He threw 7.1 innings against Salisbury giving up 1 ER.

It was truly an MVP performance.

I did not know that... that is very impressive.  Hopefully for JHU Angeloni will pitch like that all year.  He's got to be their Ace in the Hole for them to go back to the promised land.