BB: Pitcher of the Year Candidates

[d3baseballnut]

I would agree with RSSmith regarding Chez Angeloni. He will definitely one of the nation's best pitchers and I am stunned he has not been mentioned more.

He was undefeated last season, and finished the season with consecutive victories over
               Salisbury
               Chapman
               Trinity,CT

No other pitcher in the country has wins like that to their resumes, much less in consecutive starts, much less on the big stages of the Regional Championship game, 2nd Round of the World Series, and the national Championship game.

This guy has to be at the top of the list

[Jim Dixon]

Chez Angeloni (Johns Hopkins RHP) was the 2008 College World Series MVP.  There's no reason to think he won't be at the top of the list this year.

The MVP award last year was an interesting drama behind the scenes.  Every time someone was mentioned for the award, they would go 0-4, lose a game or do something that would otherwise take the player out of contention. 

[bball 14]

keep an eye on cortland state lefty Matt Tone

[dgilblair]

I would agree with RSSmith regarding Chez Angeloni. He will definitely one of the nation's best pitchers and I am stunned he has not been mentioned more.

He was undefeated last season, and finished the season with consecutive victories over
               Salisbury
               Chapman
               Trinity,CT

No other pitcher in the country has wins like that to their resumes, much less in consecutive starts, much less on the big stages of the Regional Championship game, 2nd Round of the World Series, and the national Championship game.

This guy has to be at the top of the list

Good point....I think thats why Hopkins is ranked so high in the pre-season poll even though they lost so many seniors from last years team.  If they were to put a note next to why they ranked the teams as they did his name would be there as one of the reasons.  The way you see it he should win just about all his starts and out a 40 game season thats a lot of W's.

[bulldozer]

How is Chez Angeloni winning this poll?  Ok he was World Series MVP, but the season is a lot longer than 2 games!  4.32 ERA with a 6.5 K/9... are these stats really good enough for the best pitcher in D3?  As an outsider, how hard does this kid even throw, low 80's?  What a joke.

[LightsOutLidge]

I play in the NJAC. I have seen and faced him severeal times over the summers and over the past 4 or 5 years as i have played with him at times. He throws low 90s and i have heard good things from coaches and scouts in recent months. Plus, it was a great pleasure watching him and Hopkins do well in in the World Series since i did not have the opportunity to be thier this past year.

I was surprised to see his era so high but with a 9-0 record, the season is indeed longer than 2 games so i would consider the other 7 he won as well, and more importantly his wins in the CWS i think he proved he will be one of the nations top pitchers.

Furthermore, i know hopkins has a huge following of dedicated fans that must be helping his vote. Iv had the unfortunate pleasure of having to bat against him at one of thier home games.

[bbnag101]

I would agree with RSSmith regarding Chez Angeloni. He will definitely one of the nation's best pitchers and I am stunned he has not been mentioned more.

He was undefeated last season, and finished the season with consecutive victories over
               Salisbury
               Chapman
               Trinity,CT

No other pitcher in the country has wins like that to their resumes, much less in consecutive starts, much less on the big stages of the Regional Championship game, 2nd Round of the World Series, and the national Championship game.

This guy has to be at the top of the list

Good point....I think thats why Hopkins is ranked so high in the pre-season poll even though they lost so many seniors from last years team.  If they were to put a note next to why they ranked the teams as they did his name would be there as one of the reasons.  The way you see it he should win just about all his starts and out a 40 game season thats a lot of W's.

He played summer ball in the Texas Collegiate League - here are his stats:
 
                        W  L    ERA   G  GS CG  SHO SV    IP      H    R    ER  HR  BB  SO   AVG
ANGELONI, CHEZ  1   3   5.50   8   6   0      0   1   36.00   41   27  22   2   16   30   .275 

http://www.texascollegiateleague.com/stats/08season/

Do these stats and his normal season stats indicate being voted #1?

I will try to do a little research and find out how the other nominees faired in summer ball later today.  UNLESS someone already has this data and can post it.

[Ralph Turner]

To place Angeloni, who would you omit from the team?

Angeloni's win over Chapman was not a win over Wayde Kitchens.  It looks like Angeloni was JHU's #2; Kitchens was/is the Chapman ace!  Angeloni was a #2/#3 last year and had a comparable ERA, etc., to the numbers of Chapman's Ryan Clear who took that loss. Chapman's Kurt Yacko shut JHU down in the last 4 innings of that game.

http://hopkinssports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2007-2008/0524-cha.html

Angeloni is on the radar screen, but let's see how he progresses.

Chapman 2008 stats

JHU 2008 stats

[baseballcrazy]

He did do a wonderful job in the series and stepped up for his team when they needed him but, I don't understand how a pitcher is being considered for the nation's best pitcher, because he won MVP in the world series? I personally don't think an entire pitcher's career should be reflected on a few games. It sounds like he has a lot of fans from JHU that support him and according to Ralph's post, sounds like he will be their number 1 pitcher this year.

[LightsOutLidge]

I spoke with a friend at Hopkins, a player/coach. Angeloni is expected to dominate this year. I learned that he was essentially thier number 1, pitching all of thier big matchups. Hopkins drew Adrian in the first round of the CWS... possibly a strategic move on the part of thier coach to save him.

Keep in mind that the poll is a vote and reflects peoples opinions of players, not necessary people analyzing all the players on the lists stats.

My opinion, Angeloni has the best stuff on that list having seen his velocity and slider first hand. I think Kitchens is the only other pitcher with a 90mph fastball except for lefty Matt Tone who i think has nice stuff as well.

He would have to have a huge improvement in ERA and Ks this year to be POY but from what i've gathered he has been a dominant pitcher with some inconsistent days. Still, when you demonstrate you can beat the best of the best, again and again, there is little room for doubt that he should, and needs to for Hopkins sake, repeat an undefeated season.

Also, his velocity has climbed with e/a off season. I voted for him as i am excited to see what he brings to the table this Spring. Rumored 92-94


NJAC attack... i will find out very early this season first hand

[baseballroxmysox]

WOW - it looks like 50 more people voted today just for Chez Angeloni.  I wonder if some of his friends are sitting in the school library and are using multiple computers to place their votes??

This HUGE jump in % makes one wonder

[LightsOutLidge]

Could be that. Sounds like someone has some experience... Or it could be response to the mass e-mail thats been out. the one i responded to and fwd to some of my friends. Interesting theory tho...

[Jim Dixon]

I was surprised to see his era so high but with a 9-0 record, the season is indeed longer than 2 games so i would consider the other 7 he won as well, and more importantly his wins in the CWS i think he proved he will be one of the nations top pitchers.

With the offense that JHU had, a low ERA was not really necessary to win games.

[D3Lunatic]

RoxMySox,

That is a dissapointing claim. I agree that Chez Angeloni is on the radar for this discussion and not the front runner, but i believe he is winning the poll because of the Johns Hopkins Fanbase.

No surprise that Kitchens is in seccond with the very lage Chapman fanbase.

[D3Lunatic]

Ralph,

Angeloni did not beat Kitchens. But on short rest he did beat Tim Kiley, with the undefeated season on the line, and Kiley impressed me more than Kitchens did. I would also argue that Kurt Yacko was Chapman's true #1 but was simply too valuable a player and asset in his role to start full time on the hill. Yacko was drafted in the 7th round b/c he had great stuff 90-92 mph fastball and sharp slider (comparable to Angeloni if he were in a closers role).

Angeloni held off Chapman despite Yacko comming in the game and shutting JHU down in the last 4 ins. Thats 2 CGs against Chapman and Trinity. I had Hopkins losing both of them. Angeloni impressed me, i don't doubt him further.

Also, we saw Coach Bob Babb stay with Angeloni throughout the tournament no matter what, a testament to a great coach who trusts his player... But i would have pulled him in a couple of situations. I suspect some of his poor stats come from lacking a Kurt Yacko to come in and save the day when there is trouble.

Your thoughts...