MBB: New Jersey Athletic Conference

rams1102 · February 10, 2009, 01:57:56 PM

Quote from: msupenguin22 on February 10, 2009, 12:11:04 AM
Hey guys, I write for sports for the school newspaper at Montclair State and was at that game against Ramapo.

Outside of us upsetting Willliam Paterson it was the biggest win of the year. Sophomore guard Tom Bonard hit a three as time expired with two defenders in his face to win the game. Incredible.

From what I'm reading, it is starting to remind me of the year we went to the Sweet 16. I just reviewed the D3 Hoops 2-8-09 Top 25 and Others Receiving Votes along with the new Strength Of Schedule we may soon make it to the others receiving votes catagory. With (3) games left, Berkley, Rut Nwk and Willy P we have a chance to run the table and one never knows. Nwk is no easy win and closing out at Willy P will be tough, but that is what makes teams strong. Stockton is tough, but if we do well in the NJAC Tournament we may make it to the NCAA'S. Time will tell.

LET'S GO MIGHTY RED HAWKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

msupenguin22 · February 10, 2009, 08:53:55 PM

Things also look promising as far as pool C goes, if MSU can't win the NJAC of course. But in any case, this team performs in the clutch when it counts. I missed the game against Stockton, but they hung in the game, it was tid with 4 minutes to go (source: MSU athletics website box scores). But anyway, one point win over Ramapo, one point win over Rutgers-Newark, and two tough OT wins over TCNJ and Rowan (I was at both OT games as well).

I was a little concerned with their performance against a lousy Rutgers-Camden team, they won by 7, but it was a lot closer and the team playd sloppy. Hopefully we won't see more of that.

Queens · February 10, 2009, 10:39:03 PM

No shot Montclair gets a Pool C bid you guys are dreaming...better win your conference tournament

rams1102 · February 11, 2009, 01:52:33 PM

Quote from: Queens on February 10, 2009, 10:39:03 PM
No shot Montclair gets a Pool C bid you guys are dreaming...better win your conference tournament

I would like to hear your logic whenever you are ready, but before I hear from you, here are my thoughts again :

The NCAA awards bids to 39 teams, 3 Pool B and 18 at large or Pool C. If you examine the Top 25 and others receiving votes which totals 39. You have to figure that about 5 or 6 Top 25 teams may get knocked off in their Tournaments and still to to the Dance. That would leave about 12-13 slots open for at large. There were 14 teams left in the others receiving votes. This leaves a possible opening for Montclair. The way I see it 3 scenario's can happen :

1. Montclair wins out the regular season and loses in a close one to Stockton in the NJAC Tournament. 20-6 should do it.

2. To win out will be tough. We should beat Rut-Nwk but Will P in their place will be a tall order. Then we would have to win the NJAC for the automatic bid. The odds are not good, but one never knows.

3. The last option is that we lay an egg and hope for an ECAC bid.

These are my thoughts. As I said, let's hear yours or any other ideas out there.

LET'S GO MIGHTY RED HAWKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Queens · February 11, 2009, 10:03:27 PM

Rams,

Love your passion for Montclair state,

your broke down all the numbers and it was very impressive, but the only thing that matters when it comes to at-large bids is regional rankings. I dont know if you seen the latest regional rankings (posted Feb 11th 2009) Montclair didnt crack the top 5...

Like i said better win that NJAC tournament...

Pat Coleman · February 12, 2009, 01:37:31 AM

Quote from: rams1102 on February 11, 2009, 01:52:33 PM
Quote from: Queens on February 10, 2009, 10:39:03 PM
No shot Montclair gets a Pool C bid you guys are dreaming...better win your conference tournament

I would like to hear your logic whenever you are ready, but before I hear from you, here are my thoughts again :

The NCAA regional committee has two Skyline teams and goodness knows who else ranked ahead of Montclair State. That's not a good sign.

msupenguin22 · February 12, 2009, 02:41:30 PM

Quote from: Queens on February 11, 2009, 10:03:27 PM
Rams,

Love your passion for Montclair state,

your broke down all the numbers and it was very impressive, but the only thing that matters when it comes to at-large bids is regional rankings. I dont know if you seen the latest regional rankings (posted Feb 11th 2009) Montclair didnt crack the top 5...

Like i said better win that NJAC tournament...

It appears you're right, last week we were 5th in the Atlantic but St. Joe's moved ahead of us.

Still, if we do win out and get to the NJAC final and lose, I think we have a shot at a Pool C bid, however it is unlikely.

But you never know....

Knightstalker · February 12, 2009, 04:14:14 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 12, 2009, 01:37:31 AM
Quote from: rams1102 on February 11, 2009, 01:52:33 PM
Quote from: Queens on February 10, 2009, 10:39:03 PM
No shot Montclair gets a Pool C bid you guys are dreaming...better win your conference tournament

I would like to hear your logic whenever you are ready, but before I hear from you, here are my thoughts again :

The NCAA regional committee has two Skyline teams and goodness knows who else ranked ahead of Montclair State. That's not a good sign.

Of course only the final ranking counts and MSU could be higher by then, they could also be the next team up currently in the region.

rams1102 · February 12, 2009, 07:11:40 PM

Queens / Pat,

On Feb 4th Regional Rankings had Montclair 5th, then the Feb 8th rankings had St. Joseph's 5th and Montclair out. Since then Willy P loses and today I would have Willy p out and Montclair in. It is also funny that Montclair has a better stregnth of schedule then any of the top 5. I know it is not a factor this year but it must mean a little something if it is still indicated on D3-Hoops.

In any event, I agree with Stalker, the final ranking is the one that counts. I'm having a little fun posting and I hope I it continues for a while. A tough one against Rut-Nwk this Sat.

LET'S GO MIGHTY RED HAWKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Queens · February 12, 2009, 11:20:12 PM

At rutgers newark is a very tough game, there a much better team at home than on the road...

That would be a very impressive win for your boys...

* Like i said Rams its all in good fun, the more conversation we can spark the better. If anything we got El Presidente attention ( Pat Coleman) thats got to count for something! 8)

rams1102 · February 13, 2009, 07:58:52 AM

Quote from: Queens on February 12, 2009, 11:20:12 PM
At rutgers newark is a very tough game, there a much better team at home than on the road...

That would be a very impressive win for your boys...

* Like i said Rams its all in good fun, the more conversation we can spark the better. If anything we got El Presidente attention ( Pat Coleman) thats got to count for something! 8)

Great point on Rut-Nwk. It looks like they have only (2) home loses to Barauch and TCNJ. I remember a few years back watching Montclair at Rut-Nwk. They kept coming back and we walked away with a "L".

Well Rut-Nwk this Sat and Willy P on Wed will tell us the character of this Montclair team.

LET'S GO MIGHTY RED HAWKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rams1102 · February 14, 2009, 11:36:52 PM

A big win for Montclair against Rut-Nwk, clinching the NJAC North and a first round bye in the Tournament. Now we go to Willy P for the final game in their house. This will be a real test. This team could really be coming together. We may also make the Top 5 in the Atlantic Division and also get noted in others receiving votes in the D3 Hoops Week 11 Poll.

LET'S GO MIGHTY HAWKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

msupenguin22 · February 15, 2009, 12:59:07 AM

No doubt a huge win, and with James Williams not in the lineup as well. Bonard stepped up with 22 tonight, he's shaping up to be a huge clutch player for this team.

This is an excellant team that, if they win Wednesday, should be considered for Pool C.

rams1102 · February 15, 2009, 09:53:21 AM

I was looking around D3-Hoops and noticed the following. The last real good year by Montclair was the 2003-2003 season when we lost to Ramapo in the Sweat 16. We did not get mentioned in Others Receiving Votes until after we beat Ramapo in the NJAC Tournament. In the final ranking, I think we were around #17 in the Final Poll.

That being said, we may not get in the Top 5 Atlantic Regional for Feb 15th even with a better stregnth of schedule then any of the Top5. Who knows with the NCAA.

As of today I would say we should get a Pool C, but I'm not counting on it.

Message to the Red Hawks : Beat Willy P Wed, and win the NJAC. Then there will be no reason not to make the NCAA Tournament. The future is yours to control it, and you have the talent to do it. I know you can !!!

LET'S GO MIGHTY RED HAWKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BM10 · February 16, 2009, 05:57:23 PM

Congratulations goes out to Coach Fiore and his staff for winning the NJAC North Division!!

Rams1102,

I played in that 2002-2003 season for MSU and that was a special one. This team has many similarities to the team I played on. We may have had more talent and more starpower but this year's edition is finding ways to win.