MBB: Centennial Conference

[r.w. mcnickels]

Best of luck to all the tournament teams.

It would be quaint if F&M & Scranton could both pull off a victory against vey tough opponents tonight & follow it with monumental road upsets just to see what the NCAA would do (Scranton could be forced to host as a central location). Unfortunately I lost my travel partner to share a 7.5 hour drive to VWC to work related travel delay, so I sadly cannot witness the Friday game. Were they to play Saturday maybe I can find a way there. The Dips will go as far as Milligan, Baker & my current favorite player to watch Hayk can take them. It's made rougher by the fact that McNally seems far from 100% & comes off the bench as school's all-time leading scorer.

I was curious to see how the CSAC fared in the ESAC. A team that beat NCAA's highly regarded Keystone twice (Marywood) lost to LVC by nearly 60 points.

D.B., good to see a post about basketball. There's a story on your favorite player in today's paper (link below). In the story, Robinson says N.C. Wesleyan has no true center but almost five wings. No word on whether the Bishops play zone. I hope McNally is feeling better, but I'd take a 60% James McNally over a lot of players.

http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/358730

[centfan]

Gabriel..thanks.
this board is quite "active".
i am wondering...
is there a minimum age requirement to be on this board?

[bball2020]

Wow, between you and docmarc I own a Bentley and now all of a Sudden I am whining about crossing the street!  You two crack me up, never have any insight, but quite funny!!
To define for you the attendance, i would estimate around 175-200. Not bad for such a long trip!
Hope that helps. Glad i was able to surprise you!
Now, between u and docmarc i am being told i proved a point! So i will ask
AGAIN, what was your point?
Please do send my regards to Asst Head coach for me docmarc! Does she do any recruiting for the program Since her husband doesn't?

[centfan]

hayk is a nice player who plays within himself and will have a great career. seems like a nice kid also. he feels like another centennial conference big man who is more of a finesse player than a banger. generally, that is the way i see the bigs in this conference. good players but they generally don't like mixing it up inside.

[LustyLarryintheToilet]

To define for you the attendance, i would estimate around 175-200. Not bad for such a long trip!Now, between u and docmarc i am being told i proved a point! So i will ask
AGAIN, what was your point?

the point is you had 200 there, which is good for a long trip!  but what if GBurg played, say at F&M, Widener or even Stockton (the three pods that year closer to GB).  Wouldnt that have been a better experience for the fans, and even the players to play in playoff atmosphere in a gym their fans could attend?  Now instead of 200, you might have 500, 700 in a filled gym instead of 200 in a 2/3 filled gym.

[r.w. mcnickels]

To define for you the attendance, i would estimate around 175-200. Not bad for such a long trip!Now, between u and docmarc i am being told i proved a point! So i will ask
AGAIN, what was your point?

the point is you had 200 there, which is good for a long trip!  but what if GBurg played, say at F&M, Widener or even Stockton (the three pods that year closer to GB).  Wouldnt that have been a better experience for the fans, and even the players to play in playoff atmosphere in a gym their fans could attend?  Now instead of 200, you might have 500, 700 in a filled gym instead of 200 in a 2/3 filled gym.

There were several hundred Gettysburg fans at the all-Centennial Sweet 16 game vs. Ursinus in Collegeville three years ago. It was like a CC title game on steroids. Which reminds me, the CC has gotten some decent hosting bids in recent years. That same year (2008), both Gettysburg and Ursinus hosted regional pods the first weekend before Ursinus hosted the sectional. And then F&M hosted in 2009. I'm OK with F&M traveling this year, as I was last year. I just think the issue is where they're heading.

[bball2020]

Sure that would have been nice. It would have been great to host too! But that wasn't the case, we had to travel and deal with it. I guess my point is to deal with it and just win. I wish them well and hopw they get two wins and earn their way closer to home.
Just a side note, the year Gburg hosted, there were two teams that had to come from MA, Elms and Salem St., so they had a long trip. So no matter the case, someone is travelling, it just sucks when it is the team you root for. I can understand that.

[7express]

There's ALWAYS at least one team every year that will have to travel a couple hundred miles to play a pod.  Would I have prefered Western to play at WPI, Ramapo, or Williams schools that are all closer then Middlebury??  Absolutely, but thats the break, and you just have to deal with it.

[LustyLarryintheToilet]

Best of luck to all the tournament teams.

It would be quaint if F&M & Scranton could both pull off a victory against vey tough opponents tonight & follow it with monumental road upsets just to see what the NCAA would do (Scranton could be forced to host as a central location). Unfortunately I lost my travel partner to share a 7.5 hour drive to VWC to work related travel delay, so I sadly cannot witness the Friday game. Were they to play Saturday maybe I can find a way there. The Dips will go as far as Milligan, Baker & my current favorite player to watch Hayk can take them. It's made rougher by the fact that McNally seems far from 100% & comes off the bench as school's all-time leading scorer.

I was curious to see how the CSAC fared in the ESAC. A team that beat NCAA's highly regarded Keystone twice (Marywood) lost to LVC by nearly 60 points.

D.B., good to see a post about basketball. There's a story on your favorite player in today's paper (link below). In the story, Robinson says N.C. Wesleyan has no true center but almost five wings. No word on whether the Bishops play zone. I hope McNally is feeling better, but I'd take a 60% James McNally over a lot of players.

http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/358730

rw, i was able to do a statistical analysis of F&M before and after the mcnally injury, and i was shocked to find their efficiency stats are almost identical.  The only difference has been they are now playing at a significantly slower pace than they were before the injury.  That could cause the right team fits, especially a running team like NCW.  

[docmarc]

I think the dips will step it up on defense and win going away tonight.  Anyone already in Norfolk?  I will be down there tomorrow for 7PM.  Tonights game is at 530

[docmarc]

Lusty do you have spécifics on those stats?

[LustyLarryintheToilet]

doc i use a generic pace stat, which is fgm, opponetns DR, ft's made and offensive turnovers, then get a pace pergame.  i then divide by ppg and points allowed per g to get the offensive and defensive efficiencies.   i deleted the page with the last few games on it, i just have the season stats on my main spreadsheet

[docmarc]

Do you have the specific numbers?  I am not an accountant I do not care how you got to those numbers. Lol

[CCHoopster]

doc i use a generic pace stat, which is fgm, opponetns DR, ft's made and offensive turnovers, then get a pace pergame.  i then divide by ppg and points allowed per g to get the offensive and defensive efficiencies.   i deleted the page with the last few games on it, i just have the season stats on my main spreadsheet

Lusty- You should also try to use the following= FG%, FT%, Asst to TO, total rebounding margin minus dead ball rebounds, OPP Offensive reb, TO margin, OPP FG%. I think that could give you a tighter look at "Efficacy". I would stay away from PPG since a team could score high totals with low percantages. IMO percantage is more percise in finding efficiency compared to totals. Would be interested to see the two theories results in comparison.  

[docmarc]

Bball you keep complaining about Glenn Robinson and his recruiting.  I see them in the NCAA tourney and your team not in the tourney.  So who is better at recruiting.  You cannot judge the current freshmen class as they cannot play much with the talent in front of them.