MBB: Centennial Conference

MidAtlantic Maestro · November 07, 2011, 01:13:22 PM

The Muhlenberg Mules had their annual red/white scrimmage over the weekend. The word out of West Allentown is that the Mules are for real! They appear talented, balanced and much improved from a season ago! All American Spencer Liddic, arguably the conferences best big man and a solid supporting cast will look to make life difficult for opponents in the Centennial throughout the upcoming season.

Reserved Seat · November 07, 2011, 02:34:40 PM

The Mules should be formidable this year. I was impressed with their play and with Liddic and Curry having another year of experience under their belts. If they added another decent freshman, they should challenge anyone.

commish · November 07, 2011, 02:55:41 PM

Just a reminder to join us at 1 p.m. tomorrow for the annual preseason coaches chat. We'll also release the much-anticipated preseason poll. Is there a surprise No. 1 pick for 2012?
http://www.centennial.org/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/Chat

centfan · November 07, 2011, 05:49:57 PM

no question muhlenberg will be formidable this season. they are at the top of my list for difficult opponents and complete team.

centfan · November 08, 2011, 09:41:23 AM

to me liddic is the best big man in the conference, the most complete and the most reliable. i think he makes his team better as well. seems like a great kid and certainly a quiet leader.

cocoh2oDad · November 08, 2011, 10:47:20 AM

CENTFAN I am always curious about guys on a sports comment site that speak on who is "THE BEST" at a certain position instead of commenting on a said player as one of the top players at his or her position. Have you ever run up and down a court for an organized school team? I get a really kick out of the guys who hide behind a chat site or a microphone, (as in radio or T.V.), who seem to have never played organized sport and proceed to comment on who is the best, who is a "choker" on the court, what coach is this and that, who is the best when the pressure is on, who deserves this honor or that. My apologies if indeed you have played the game and have indeed competed in the great world of team sport, but for those who haven't my opinion is simply your comments on who is what and deserves what aren't worth the message boards they are typed on. Though it does make for a curious brake from your day to day reality reading this stuff, almost like slowing down to take a peak at a car wreck on the turnpike. Maybe a requirement to participate on these sites should indeed be, first and foremost, you need to be an athlete "with experience" to comment. Mr.Liddic indeed seems like a great, humble young man who is also a great student so say his grades. But unless there is a wide, obvious, evident gap between "the announced best big man, best point guard, or the best recruited freshman class", and the rest of those involved, please leave that to be decided by the guys playing the game and the season ahead. Even then those determinations, at times, aren't that clear at the end of a season unless you truly know what your watching for. Should be a very competitive Centennial Conference, I look forward to it as should all CC fans. Good luck to all

centfan · November 08, 2011, 11:47:02 AM

dear coco
thanks for the response. i would suggest you not take it overly seriously but since you do/did, i would venture a really wild guess that if i applauded a different player than liddic you might not have sent me the response you just did. you might have happily agreed. it really isn't about the thought that expressing who the "best" big man might be is an inherently bad idea, it is that you get upset hearing choices that are not in line with yours. then you want to make a highly speculative and uninformed case that i might never have played the game, don't know the game, am hiding etc. .. this board is not a competition, it is simply a group of fans expressing their thoughts and loyalties, generally without hostility.i apologize for having a different opinion than you but your record shows that you too make distinctions (as all athletes and sports lovers do) as to who is better, more productive, has better stats, deserves accolades etc.. my post was a positive one simply expressing my appreciation for a young man and basketball player that we all have seen and, i would guess, all appreciate. nothing more. why turn good into bad?

cocoh2oDad · November 08, 2011, 02:23:30 PM

Dear Centfan
One thing for sure, I'm not taking this too seriously,despite your "opinion", I've simply commented on statements and declarations I've seen, and read over and over again in forums like these about certain players, coaches and programs as you do Centfan. And no, your "really wild guess" is just that, it would not have made a difference who you picked as a stand out, the point of my comments, if you read them carefully enough, were focused on the participants on these sites and their basketball opinions that are based on simply viewing the game as a "sports fan". Most of these "sports fans" and their level of participation history in this great game consists of sitting on the couch with a cold one in one hand and the remote in the other watching March Madness once a year. Maybe, if they're lucky, they join in on a pick up game or two from time to time and catch up on the current issue of SI while on the throne. And I'm not interested in making this any kind of "competition", as you state, I'd simply like to read comments from informed, educated basketball fans who have obviously played the game, competed on the floor AND BEEN IN THE SITUATIONS THEY SEEM TO WANT TO SIT ON HERE AND PONTIFICATE ABOUT. And as far as my "highly speculative and uninformed case" goes, it never seems to be responded to directly by those I bring this up to. It's pretty easy to pick out those I speak of, be it TV, radio, or here. If you took this as "hostile" maybe you took this a bit "overly seriously", though your opinion is welcomed. I'd instead like to call it a passionate opinion of something I have a 35 year history of being an active, involved participant in. If that's, as you say,"turning something from good to bad", I'll take bad anyday. My personal semi unrelated opinion Centfan, this world is full of complacent, PC yes men and woman who want to make no waves, not truly speak their mind, and follow instead of being a bit of a contrarian and maybe lead the way from time to time. If that's uncomfortable for most of you and out of your comfort zone, sorry not my issue. Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday.

centfan · November 08, 2011, 04:11:15 PM

coco
"My personal semi unrelated opinion Centfan, this world is full of complacent, PC yes men and woman who want to make no waves, not truly speak their mind, and follow instead of being a bit of a contrarian and maybe lead the way from time to time. If that's uncomfortable for most of you and out of your comfort zone, sorry not my issue."
thanks for your insightful world view.
stay calm my brother...life is good.
a long time ago i chose not to be a hater. i will pray for you. the cup is half full.
all best

cocoh2oDad · November 08, 2011, 06:10:31 PM

Dear Dear Centfan,
Life is indeed good, it's even better when you pull no punches, speak your mind, and wear your emotions on your sleeve. Should give it a try ,it's very therapeutic. As far as praying for me, thanks but no thanks, got that covered. If you take from what I said today on this forum, and morph it into a reason to designate yours truly as a "hater", name calling is usually the road those take that have no other response. So I understand completely. In closing Centfan remember this, All truth passes through three stages, first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, third it is accepted as being self evident. How's that for a insightful world view? Now lets return to basketball talk instead of this amateur psycho analyzation, the season is upon us! Have a great evening.

Reserved Seat · November 08, 2011, 09:22:53 PM

Am I on the wrong board? I was looking for basketball.

Reserved Seat · November 08, 2011, 09:24:13 PM

F&M scrimmages Messiah on Saturday at 3:00.

diplomaniac1 · November 09, 2011, 06:44:42 PM

Reserved Seat -

I sure hope to be at that scrimmage since I missed the first one! Hope to see you there.

Eric

old ends · November 10, 2011, 09:59:05 AM

It is nice to see people talking on this board, but it is a basketball forum. Let things play out on the court. Sometimes parents get to involved and let emotions control the patern of thought.

I never played any sports because of a drunk driver who hit me when I was 11 yrs old. So I look at the stats that are trending. Just watching student's who play the sport is all I can do and that I enjoy. Been doing that for 60yrs and marvel when there are outstanding players in all sports.

enjoy

Gabriel · November 10, 2011, 12:18:32 PM

Quote from: old ends on November 10, 2011, 09:59:05 AM
It is nice to see people talking on this board, but it is a basketball forum. Let things play out on the court. Sometimes parents get to involved and let emotions control the patern of thought.

I never played any sports because of a drunk driver who hit me when I was 11 yrs old. So I look at the stats that are trending. Just watching student's who play the sport is all I can do and that I enjoy. Been doing that for 60yrs and marvel when there are outstanding players in all sports.

enjoy

Old Ends,

Well said. I have enjoyed the sport for about as long as you and had the privilege of playing ---albeit, not that well. I am a much better fan. I enjoy talking with the players so much and I have not met a loser yet. We will decide in February who has the best team. Go Bears!