MBB: Centennial Conference

CCD3Basketball · January 30, 2015, 01:23:46 PM

It's always nice when the CC is able to gain more national attention through multiple platforms. Well done.

As for this weekend, Muhlenberg/McDaniel jumps out at me just because the Mules already own a win over the Green Terror this year. However, the game tomorrow is in Westminster, but the game is still intriguing nonetheless. Other than that, none of the games really jump off the page as "must watch" games.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · January 30, 2015, 01:25:45 PM

Thank you for the kind words. This was the second year we did the marathon and we will clearly keep it as part of our annual show schedule... and overtime just seems to be part of the show LOL.

hoop master · January 30, 2015, 02:58:23 PM

hoop dog
Hargrove and Curry were srs and looked to for production. Other teams defense besides focus on Killing, were to stop both of them. Stats in isolation do not always tell the story. Though both players i mentioned under performed to their past numbers. I think Hopper explained the role Hargrove played best, and agree with the youth issue currently. You are though probably correct on the challenge the mules will have to reach the playoffs. I was a little over zealous with hope.

Hoopdog14 · January 30, 2015, 05:00:42 PM

Hooper

I agree that the Mules miss Hargrove under the basket and Hunter is no Hargrove. Playing 4 guards is not the issue; it is the talent of those 4 guards. Killing aside they started 6'4" 6'4" 6'4" and 6'10". Most teams in the CC would die for that size.

As far as Hargrove and Curry were concerned they would looked to for leadership not production as they both had disappointing years offensively. Forman gave them a strong battler up front with zero offense and quite frankly 5 extra fouls out of the position.

The Mules have 3 guys 6'9" 6'10" and 6'6" but their top big man recruit of 6'8" 225lbs quit earlier this season. They are not undersized. As far as playing a 4 guard rotation, teams that do that are quick and athletic and use that to pressure the ball force turnovers and run the break. That is not how the Mules roll.

Tomorrow will be a hard fought physical game and odds favor the Green Terror as they are very difficult to beat there

hoop master · January 31, 2015, 04:41:35 PM

Hopkins wins big as expected over undersize Haverford. Blue Jays insured it was not to be a trap game , and did not let their overconfidence erode their big lead , as they did in first match up, blowing a 24 pt lead and fortunate to win. Ryan Curran 22 pts in 19 minutes today , lead the way. A nice day at the office for many Blue jays, who when on all cylinders look very tough. Expect no surprises with this weeks match ups in progress in other games.

Hoopdog14 · January 31, 2015, 06:54:36 PM

The Mules pulled out a tough win at McDaniel's horror chamber. I wouldn't shake the pom pom too much for the Mules as McDaniels shooting was miserable; shooting 15% from 3s and 32% overall. And it was not due to tough defense as the misses were many times wide open shots. Interesting is the shorter McDaniel scored 32 points in the paint versus 24 for the taller Mules.

Killing didn't not start today and his play was un-inspiring. LaRose carried the Mules with help from Schreer from deep. Defense was helped by poor shooting and it remains to be seen whether the Mules can hold up against the top half of the CC

Reserved Seat · January 31, 2015, 07:16:03 PM

F&M won after building up an early lead in the first half and then holding on down the stretch. In foul plagued second half, the Garnet tried to exert a physically effort to the second half. For a non-contact sport, the game more resembled a football. Despite all the whistles which extend the length of the game, many fouls were not called. Several times the officials had to discuss all the pushing before the ball was inbounded on out of bound plays. F&M had 4 players in double figures with Federici leading the way with 28. The Garnet countered with 3 players in double figures with Bourne putting up 20. Six players lead the way with 5 rebounds each. Wednesday's match up with John Hopkins should be an interesting game with the Blue Jays hoping to avenge their one lose in the league.

HoopGuru · February 01, 2015, 03:17:34 PM

Quote from: Reserved Seat on January 31, 2015, 07:16:03 PM
For a non-contact sport, the game more resembled a football.

Basketball is a contact sport...

Reserved Seat · February 01, 2015, 10:38:36 PM

Not to the point that you twice take down players from behind on breakaways. From the New York Times "Although we don't think of basketball as a contact sport in the true sense of the word, there is a lot of banging going on," Saturday's game with Swarthmore was more than banging. Flagrant fouls should have been called at least twice, if not 3 times.

Reserved Seat · February 01, 2015, 10:46:51 PM

quote from a sport magazine--Football and basketball have decidedly different styles of play based on the rules. Football is a full-contact sport, with tackles and physical confrontations and collisions on every play. Basketball is considered a non-contact sport and by rule physical contact in basketball is a violation that can result in a foul.

HoopGuru · February 02, 2015, 01:55:11 PM

I couldnt disagree more. I am not sure if you ever played the game or not, and I am sure that others on the board who have played at the collegiate level can attest to, but basketball is indeed a contact sport. Obviously not even close to what football is, but is certainly a contact sport. Every year at the college level, there were times when we would have actual college refs come into our practice to discuss rule changes/emphasis for that year, and every single year they came in, would make it a note to let us know basketball is a physical, contact sport, but with that being said these are areas that we are trying to crack down on - such as hand checking, freedom of movement, etc. Example - boxing out, completely legal, contact is made, and just one example. Being a guard, I was on both ends of numerous, blindside but legal screens. A huge part of offense is setting screens, which is making contact with a player...Go look into rules of swimming and diving if you want non-contact sports

Hoopdog14 · February 02, 2015, 02:08:03 PM

HoopGuru

You are absolutely right. Screens, hard fouls boxing out all part of a very physical game. In the post there is a fine line between 2 bodies banging for position and being called for a foul. Make no mistake it is a contact sport. The major problem with physical play is the sometimes inconsistency from the men in striped shirts. They can go from letting them play to becoming whistle happy over any brush of contasct

hoop master · February 02, 2015, 06:07:25 PM

hoop guru and hoopdog14

I agree totally. Post play in d3 though decidedly smaller then the d1 boys in general, has though as much banging and more from some strong atheletes. Depending on the zebras for the game, determines the amount of allowable contact. Granted d-3,officials appear more inconsistant on their calls. Looks like they let em play during Swat/,Fand m game.... but basketball for sure is a contact sport.

Reserved Seat · February 02, 2015, 06:59:02 PM

I have been watching MAC/CC basketball since '66 probably over 1,000 games, and the amount of contact has increased yearly. Talking to several coaches over the years has confirmed my observations. Yes, there's going to be contact, but excessive physical play has to be controlled by the refs. When players are physically dragged down from behind, players are going to be unnecessarily hurt. Also, when you go up for a rebound, you should have to worry about be undercut.

Hoopdog14 · February 02, 2015, 07:10:26 PM

Reserved Seat

I don't think anyone here would disagree with you that undercutting someone on a rebound or pulling someone down from behind goes beyond physical play. Athletes today are bigger stronger and faster so it stands to reason that more physicality is expected. It is up to the referees to set the parameters and do it consistently.