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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Swish3 on February 27, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Quote from: Reserved Seat on February 27, 2017, 03:03:00 PM
Looks like Swarthmore lucked out to get a home game.  Didn't expect that at all.  Hope Swarthmore represents the CC well.

Neither did anyone else...had everything to do w/the NCAA giving the CNU women's team the hosting privileges, even though the CNU men had better comparative criteria.

Pretty sure it had nothing to do with giving CNU a host... Scranton had to move too, but if you look at the brackets they weren't in the same conversation with their pods. I think Susquehanna was going to host anyway.
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ronk

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2017, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on February 27, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Quote from: Reserved Seat on February 27, 2017, 03:03:00 PM
Looks like Swarthmore lucked out to get a home game.  Didn't expect that at all.  Hope Swarthmore represents the CC well.

Neither did anyone else...had everything to do w/the NCAA giving the CNU women's team the hosting privileges, even though the CNU men had better comparative criteria.

Pretty sure it had nothing to do with giving CNU a host... Scranton had to move too, but if you look at the brackets they weren't in the same conversation with their pods. I think Susquehanna was going to host anyway.

If Hoopsville's statement that Scranton moved into #2 in the region ahead of Susquehanna, then, by Ryan Scott's idea, Scranton should be "hosting" @ #3 seed Williams against #4 seed Oswego St. Correct?

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2017, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2017, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on February 27, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Quote from: Reserved Seat on February 27, 2017, 03:03:00 PM
Looks like Swarthmore lucked out to get a home game.  Didn't expect that at all.  Hope Swarthmore represents the CC well.

Neither did anyone else...had everything to do w/the NCAA giving the CNU women's team the hosting privileges, even though the CNU men had better comparative criteria.

Pretty sure it had nothing to do with giving CNU a host... Scranton had to move too, but if you look at the brackets they weren't in the same conversation with their pods. I think Susquehanna was going to host anyway.

If Hoopsville's statement that Scranton moved into #2 in the region ahead of Susquehanna, then, by Ryan Scott's idea, Scranton should be "hosting" @ #3 seed Williams against #4 seed Oswego St. Correct?

It appears, on the bracket, that the pods go, basically, 1-4-2-3.  I believe they've got Susquehanna the #2, Scranton the #3, which makes Williams the #6.  That seems fair.

It's very clear they didn't do the 3rd team hosts thing this year.  When I went back to the old brackets today, I realized that was just one year they mentioned that - and one year does not a trend make.  I should've bracketed differently in our mock and I'll do better next year.  Most pods are listed 1-4-2-3 as well, except where the women's team altered hosting.

However, it could be argued this committee really did try to give host duties to the 16 best teams overall, regardless of region.  In that case it wouldn't be tough to argue even #2 in the MA this year was below #4 in the NE, Williams.  We'll honestly never know exactly - but overall  I think this was a really good bracket and Scranton couldn't have hosted anyway, even if they were #1 overall.
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ronk

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 27, 2017, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2017, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2017, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on February 27, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Quote from: Reserved Seat on February 27, 2017, 03:03:00 PM
Looks like Swarthmore lucked out to get a home game.  Didn't expect that at all.  Hope Swarthmore represents the CC well.

Neither did anyone else...had everything to do w/the NCAA giving the CNU women's team the hosting privileges, even though the CNU men had better comparative criteria.

Pretty sure it had nothing to do with giving CNU a host... Scranton had to move too, but if you look at the brackets they weren't in the same conversation with their pods. I think Susquehanna was going to host anyway.

If Hoopsville's statement that Scranton moved into #2 in the region ahead of Susquehanna, then, by Ryan Scott's idea, Scranton should be "hosting" @ #3 seed Williams against #4 seed Oswego St. Correct?

It appears, on the bracket, that the pods go, basically, 1-4-2-3.  I believe they've got Susquehanna the #2, Scranton the #3, which makes Williams the #6.  That seems fair.

It's very clear they didn't do the 3rd team hosts thing this year.  When I went back to the old brackets today, I realized that was just one year they mentioned that - and one year does not a trend make.  I should've bracketed differently in our mock and I'll do better next year.  Most pods are listed 1-4-2-3 as well, except where the women's team altered hosting.

However, it could be argued this committee really did try to give host duties to the 16 best teams overall, regardless of region.  In that case it wouldn't be tough to argue even #2 in the MA this year was below #4 in the NE, Williams.  We'll honestly never know exactly - but overall  I think this was a really good bracket and Scranton couldn't have hosted anyway, even if they were #1 overall.

Well, it appears they did it(#1 hosting @ #3 and playing #4) with the CNU pod and also the Wash U pod; maybe Dave can verify that with the chair and, if so, why it didn't happen in Scranton's case?

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2017, 08:39:37 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 27, 2017, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2017, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2017, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on February 27, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Quote from: Reserved Seat on February 27, 2017, 03:03:00 PM
Looks like Swarthmore lucked out to get a home game.  Didn't expect that at all.  Hope Swarthmore represents the CC well.

Neither did anyone else...had everything to do w/the NCAA giving the CNU women's team the hosting privileges, even though the CNU men had better comparative criteria.

Pretty sure it had nothing to do with giving CNU a host... Scranton had to move too, but if you look at the brackets they weren't in the same conversation with their pods. I think Susquehanna was going to host anyway.

If Hoopsville's statement that Scranton moved into #2 in the region ahead of Susquehanna, then, by Ryan Scott's idea, Scranton should be "hosting" @ #3 seed Williams against #4 seed Oswego St. Correct?

It appears, on the bracket, that the pods go, basically, 1-4-2-3.  I believe they've got Susquehanna the #2, Scranton the #3, which makes Williams the #6.  That seems fair.

It's very clear they didn't do the 3rd team hosts thing this year.  When I went back to the old brackets today, I realized that was just one year they mentioned that - and one year does not a trend make.  I should've bracketed differently in our mock and I'll do better next year.  Most pods are listed 1-4-2-3 as well, except where the women's team altered hosting.

However, it could be argued this committee really did try to give host duties to the 16 best teams overall, regardless of region.  In that case it wouldn't be tough to argue even #2 in the MA this year was below #4 in the NE, Williams.  We'll honestly never know exactly - but overall  I think this was a really good bracket and Scranton couldn't have hosted anyway, even if they were #1 overall.

Well, it appears they did it(#1 hosting @ #3 and playing #4) with the CNU pod and also the Wash U pod; maybe Dave can verify that with the chair and, if so, why it didn't happen in Scranton's case?

I get the impression from this ballot that they really put together 16 team brackets and tried to balance them all 1-16 (with obvious geographic issues messing things up).  In that case, I imagine they put together pods, then figured out hosts.

I think Swarthmore is the #2 in the CNU pod.  I could see either Williams or Scranton as the #1 in that pod, with the other as the #2.
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: Swish3 on February 27, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Neither did anyone else...had everything to do w/the NCAA giving the CNU women's team the hosting privileges, even though the CNU men had better comparative criteria.

This exactly does not matter. It rotates for this very reason. Otherwise the committees would have a much more difficult time determining who hosts. If the CNU women are qualified to host, it doesn't matter is the CNU men are better qualified in the first weekend in odd-numbered years.
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Swish3

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Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2017, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on February 27, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Quote from: Reserved Seat on February 27, 2017, 03:03:00 PM
Looks like Swarthmore lucked out to get a home game.  Didn't expect that at all.  Hope Swarthmore represents the CC well.

Neither did anyone else...had everything to do w/the NCAA giving the CNU women's team the hosting privileges, even though the CNU men had better comparative criteria.

Pretty sure it had nothing to do with giving CNU a host... Scranton had to move too, but if you look at the brackets they weren't in the same conversation with their pods. I think Susquehanna was going to host anyway.

Come on, Dave, if the CNU women weren't hosting, the committee would have found a way for the men to host the first weekend...they were #1 in the MA from start to finish...how can you not reward that?  Last year, they sent Lycoming, Brooklyn and NYU to Newport News, which obviously wasn't a central location...they must have felt that CNU deserved to host, which is what they likely would have done if the women didn't have priority this year.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Let me circle back... I am once again taking Swarthmore and Susquehanna and mixing them up in my head - damn S SCHOOLS! That is two weeks in a row in my head.

I was referring to Susquehanna in my comments... and conflating them with Swarthmore. I apologize.
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Swat Fan #1

Just slightly different SAT scores.   ;D

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Host of Hoopsville. USBWA Executive Board member. Broadcast Director for D3sports.com. Broadcaster for NCAA.com & several colleges. PA Announcer for Gophers & Brigade. Follow me on Twitter: @davemchugh or @d3hoopsville.

sunny

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2017, 12:27:46 AM
Quote from: Swat Fan #1 on February 28, 2017, 08:16:32 PM
Just slightly different SAT scores.   ;D

Or so you hope... LOL

I know you're making a joke here, but Swat's rather up-and-down athletic history (outside of a couple consistent programs like tennis) might suggest that they don't exactly make a habit of bending admissions standards all that much.

txg

Quote from: sunny on March 01, 2017, 08:29:28 AM
Swat's rather up-and-down athletic history

This description is... charitable.  I stumbled onto the Hood Trophy historical results the other day and my eyes started bleeding.

Swat Fan #1

Quote from: sunny on March 01, 2017, 08:29:28 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2017, 12:27:46 AM
Quote from: Swat Fan #1 on February 28, 2017, 08:16:32 PM
Just slightly different SAT scores.   ;D

Or so you hope... LOL

I know you're making a joke here, but Swat's rather up-and-down athletic history (outside of a couple consistent programs like tennis) might suggest that they don't exactly make a habit of bending admissions standards all that much.

Hey, Swat's standards are incredibly high. A certain young man wanted to go there and was denied. He later became our 44th President. Swat's average SAT scores are in the 2300 range. The three most important things at Swat are studies, studies, and then studies. However, a degree from Swat is as good as you can get. Yeah, they don't bend standards for athletics.

Reserved Seat

If the basketball team gets too much better, they may drop it like football. :D

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Reserved Seat on March 01, 2017, 05:31:37 PM
If the basketball team gets too much better, they may drop it like football. :D

Boom.

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