MBB: Centennial Conference

Dips75 · March 05, 2011, 09:13:43 PM

Tough loss, especially with such a substantial lead late in the first.

I really thought of Robinson was going to get a national title, it would have been this year. After two years ago, making the final four with mostly freshmen and sophomores, I thought this would be the year. Now, it's tough to see if F&M will ever get one under Robinson.

LustyLarryintheToilet · March 05, 2011, 09:23:59 PM

Hey Dips75, i here what youre saying. But honestly, did anything you see the last few months scream out title team? Sweet 16 team? yes, even final four team under the right circumstances. but the team spent a lot of the year trying to make up for the loss of Anthony. And especially down the stretch, the team did well. I gotta admit, i really like Brewer's defense and his ability to manage the offense at the point position.

This was what it was, a tough loss in a tough spot against a team that was unbeaten at home. The guys left everything out on the floor, and got victimitzed by the proverbial lid on the basket at the end.

D.B. Cooper · March 05, 2011, 09:35:00 PM

Sorry to see this class finish, even worse they were sent so far away I couldn't go. They were excellent to watch for 4 years. Their achilles issues of poor free throw shooting & lack of 3-point shooting killed them. The needed one more player in depth or a healthy McNally. Marlins would have lost if they didn't give up on the man-to-man defense that was torched in the 1st half & follow the way all other teams try to slow down the Dips.
There were certainly pods that this team could have won, against all immense odds they almost won this one.

It will be tough to duplicate this success next year, the league should be stronger generally. Returning players: Milligan, Beckford, Hayk, & maybe Salandra can play possibly Porter has promise, but they need a new big man or 2, plus 3-point shooters that most other teams are loaded with & then who knows.

Dips75 · March 05, 2011, 09:44:12 PM

Quote from: LustyLarryintheToilet on March 05, 2011, 09:23:59 PM
Hey Dips75, i here what youre saying. But honestly, did anything you see the last few months scream out title team? Sweet 16 team? yes, even final four team under the right circumstances. but the team spent a lot of the year trying to make up for the loss of Anthony. And especially down the stretch, the team did well. I gotta admit, i really like Brewer's defense and his ability to manage the offense at the point position.

This was what it was, a tough loss in a tough spot against a team that was unbeaten at home. The guys left everything out on the floor, and got victimitzed by the proverbial lid on the basket at the end.

No, it didn't. And that worried me. It seems they lost a ton of edge. Bad enough having the kind of stretches they had during the season. Losing back to back to McDaniel and Muhlenberg? The loss to Ithaca for the New Year's tourney?

This was definitely not the best F&M team to hit the tourney, but it seems like when they have had teams that could win it all, something happens. Teams that have made it to the final four as legitimate title hopefuls have had something or other happen. I was hoping that maybe they were sleepwalking a bit, and would be able to turn it on when it mattered. McNally's healthy certainly was a factor, but this team could have done more this year.

I don't see how they are a better team next year or the year after than they are now. I like the current juniors and sophomores, but nothing like the team they could have been this year.

LustyLarryintheToilet · March 05, 2011, 10:05:45 PM

i agree dips75, the good part about college bball is we get to grow with a new set of players, and the player of the year returns as well. As fans, you cant be anything but proud of the effort tonight

Dips75 · March 05, 2011, 10:08:11 PM

Quote from: LustyLarryintheToilet on March 05, 2011, 10:05:45 PM
i agree dips75, the good part about college bball is we get to grow with a new set of players, and the player of the year returns as well. As fans, you cant be anything but proud of the effort tonight

It was a very good effort, and for that, the team should be congratulated. It's a shame, though, that the game was winnable, and it just didn't happen.

docmarc · March 06, 2011, 02:04:11 AM

Well as I am driving back from Va wesleyan I must simply write that this loss will take a few days to get over. The refs in this game are ten times worse than those in the centennial conference. The one guy looked almost 90. Anyway more later. Rough night indeed. Congrats to f and m and the seniors.

Reserved Seat · March 06, 2011, 08:07:02 AM

Worse than Centennial refs? Wow!

LustyLarryintheToilet · March 06, 2011, 08:37:17 AM

Quote from: docmarc on March 06, 2011, 02:04:11 AM
Well as I am driving back from Va wesleyan I must simply write that this loss will take a few days to get over. The refs in this game are ten times worse than those in the centennial conference. The one guy looked almost 90. Anyway more later. Rough night indeed. Congrats to f and m and the seniors.

Goodjob making the trip Doc. thats the other hard part of the trip, the drive home after a loss (its the main reason i didnt attend the jets/pats playoff game this year). From what i gathered on tv, the refs were equally egregious with the fouls. But my biggest issue was with multiple uncalled travellings in the first half.

centfan · March 06, 2011, 09:01:43 AM

congrats on a nice season for f & m. it was an up and down year and i didn't have a great feeling about them in the tournament so i am not surprised about the results. don't think they could have played with top D3 teams if they got in deeper in tourney.regardless, congrats to all seniors for terrific careers. good luck with life after college.

docmarc · March 06, 2011, 10:15:54 AM

Quote from: centfan on March 06, 2011, 09:01:43 AM
congrats on a nice season for f & m. it was an up and down year and i didn't have a great feeling about them in the tournament so i am not surprised about the results. don't think they could have played with top D3 teams if they got in deeper in tourney.regardless, congrats to all seniors for terrific careers. good luck with life after college.

This is a topic that we have been discussing with Pat Coleman all week. F&M has proven they can play with the top D3 teams- they beat St. Mary's at their spot last year, they beat MMA at their spot last year, and they almost beat a very physical team last night. F&M is a quick and physical team that can play killer defense. Tough loss!

docmarc · March 06, 2011, 10:19:30 AM

Quote from: LustyLarryintheToilet on March 05, 2011, 09:23:59 PM
Hey Dips75, i here what youre saying. But honestly, did anything you see the last few months scream out title team? Sweet 16 team? yes, even final four team under the right circumstances. but the team spent a lot of the year trying to make up for the loss of Anthony. And especially down the stretch, the team did well. I gotta admit, i really like Brewer's defense and his ability to manage the offense at the point position.

This was what it was, a tough loss in a tough spot against a team that was unbeaten at home. The guys left everything out on the floor, and got victimitzed by the proverbial lid on the basket at the end.

Actually, I think this team is better than that of last year or even the year before that made the final four. Milligan and Hayk have been awesome. The defense has been killer. And moving forward, with Matt Porter replacing Tolliver and hopefully the deveopment of some recruits that this great staff is bringing in I am optimistic. F&M is still the class of the CC.

docmarc · March 06, 2011, 10:22:00 AM

Quote from: LustyLarryintheToilet on March 06, 2011, 08:37:17 AM
Quote from: docmarc on March 06, 2011, 02:04:11 AM
Well as I am driving back from Va wesleyan I must simply write that this loss will take a few days to get over. The refs in this game are ten times worse than those in the centennial conference. The one guy looked almost 90. Anyway more later. Rough night indeed. Congrats to f and m and the seniors.

Goodjob making the trip Doc. thats the other hard part of the trip, the drive home after a loss (its the main reason i didnt attend the jets/pats playoff game this year). From what i gathered on tv, the refs were equally egregious with the fouls. But my biggest issue was with multiple uncalled travellings in the first half.

At least on the way back I did not get a ticket through slower lower Delaware. What an awful state! Anyway, the best was after the game when Coach came int our reception and said that he was running late because he had to fill out a comment card on the refs. It is not fair when refs are too involved in the outcome of games- in Division 3 it is bad!

docmarc · March 06, 2011, 10:23:51 AM

Quote from: Dips75 on March 05, 2011, 09:13:43 PM
Tough loss, especially with such a substantial lead late in the first.

I really thought of Robinson was going to get a national title, it would have been this year. After two years ago, making the final four with mostly freshmen and sophomores, I thought this would be the year. Now, it's tough to see if F&M will ever get one under Robinson.

This was not the year. F&M was given a terrible draw in the NCAA tourney. And winning a tourney is all about who you play, when it is and where it is. Look at 2009, an unbelievable draw for F&M.

docmarc · March 06, 2011, 10:25:56 AM

Anyway, enjoy the offseason folks. Bball2020 and Coco- see you next season at your respective sites. Hopefully, you will have more class next year!

Final comment- I have to admit that the Ursinus student section which I have to admit can be routy was better than that crappy VA Wesleyan student section. We fans know how to get it done in the Centennial.