MBB: Centennial Conference

[Pat Coleman]

i could be wrong, but didnt they win one game, then they were done just last year?  My point was that F&M seems to have struggled with physical ODAC teams in recent years (just looking at past schedules).  Playing a Cabrini favors the Dips because they might not be ready for the a physical game, and F&M will be sure to lull ya to sleep

They were knocked out by ODAC teams the last two years, by Randolph-Macon in the Elite Eight in 2010 and at Virginia Wesleyan in the second round last year. F&M did beat a very good ODAC team in the second round in 2004, Hampden-Sydney, which I believe had been ranked No. 1 earlier that season.

Forgive me if i'm wrong RW, but didnt F&M's 09 season also end with a loss to Guilford, yet another ODAC team?

UC Hooligan, F&M's '09 season effectively ended with a Final Four semifinal loss to Richard Stockton. The Dips then lost the consolation game to Guilford in what amounted to an exhibition game. Thankfully the NCAA has since gotten rid of that game, because as I'm sure you're aware as an Ursinus fan, the players (and many fans) simply don't want to be there.

RW, my point still stands.  They struggle when confronted with a team as physical as them and have been beaten by an ODAC team 3 years running.  Call it an exhibition, but i'm sure the players didnt treat it as an exhibition.

None of us can really know what's in the players' minds but I saw a lot of consolation games and many times it was evident that only one team, or neither team, came to play. I don't think Salem State was better than F&M in 2000, for example, but who could blame F&M for being a little deflated by the way they lost to Calvin?

Best third place game I can remember was Ohio Northern and Illinois Wesleyan in 2001. Well contested game, came down to the buzzer.

I'm glad we don't have this game anymore. Replacing it with a true exhibition rather than a fake one was a good move.

[Reserved Seat]

Unfortunately, the players did take it as an exhibition.  I've been to all the final fours for F&M, and I've seen the attitude towards the game
What's Ursinus' record against ODAC teams?

[UCHooligan98]

Unfortunately, the players did take it as an exhibition.  I've been to all the final fours for F&M, and I've seen the attitude towards the game
What's Ursinus' record against ODAC teams?

no idea, but unlike F&M we've been able to beat one in a tournament in recent years

[dipphan]

Who is not classy on this forum who is a f and m fan?  f and m fans simply state the facts and should be confident with being #1 in the conference,  hosting the cc tourney again and having the best coach in ncaa d3 history.  and did i mention the dips have a first all team player and mvp of the cc.  sorry there's fandm and then everyone else in the conference.

[Gabriel]

Reserved Seat,

Haven't seen your usual recap of the game on Wednesday.  I thought it was a fairly competitive game.   I walked over and looked for you at halftime but just got "this guy's crazy' stares from the Dips fans who don't know who Reserved Seat is.

Gabriel

[r.w. mcnickels]

good road win for f andm .  looking forward to the cc tourney in lancaster and the march to Salem.  should be a lock!

Nothing is a lock in this conference, dipphan. A couple of losses and the Dips could easily be sent on another odyssey to a remote location in NCAAs. It's still way too early.

Gabriel (or anyone else from Ursinus) - when the Bears and Dips played in December, Ursinus had a freshman who started at either shooting guard or small forward. He looked like he had potential. What happened to him?

r.w.

You're thinking about Phil Walker---a superb athlete also recruited by F&M.  He is no longer on the BB team for whatever reason.  No one talks about it.  Apparently on the track team now.

Gabriel, thanks for the info. I think Haverford had a similar situation a couple years ago with a very good player (Chazz Thomas?) who decided to leave the team and focus on track & field.

[UCHooligan98]

None of us can really know what's in the players' minds but I saw a lot of consolation games and many times it was evident that only one team, or neither team, came to play. I don't think Salem State was better than F&M in 2000, for example, but who could blame F&M for being a little deflated by the way they lost to Calvin?

Best third place game I can remember was Ohio Northern and Illinois Wesleyan in 2001. Well contested game, came down to the buzzer.

I'm glad we don't have this game anymore. Replacing it with a true exhibition rather than a fake one was a good move.
[/quote]

Makes sense, conceptually whats the point of a 3rd place game?  I was unable to attend our run to the FF in 2008, but heard from friends the atmoshphere of the saturday game was dead.  They made the trek thinking about going to both games no matter what, but after the first game, and a night of partying at Awful Arthurs, all they wanted to do was get home (which according to them made Saturday that much worse).  I guess Salem is just a long hike for a single game on the first great weekend of Spring. 

[Dips75]

hey pat, do you expect anything better from an F&M fan?

Honestly, with what you have offered to this board, I'm not sure you can sit in judgment of any fan.

I don't think it was necessary for him to say that, but I have also seen a lot of similarly "classy" comments from Ursinus and Muhlenberg fans. I just wish we all could discuss the game without it turning into trolling, like it seems to do quite often here, especially over the last few months.

[Pat Coleman]

If someone else said "eat me" that I missed lately, my statement also applies to them. But that was the particular bit of speech I was referencing.

[diplomaniac1]

Folks -

Here are my predictions for tomorrow's (Saturday, February 4) "Pick-Ems Games":

Ursinus over Gettysburg (I honestly don't have a clue - edge to the home team)
Haverford over McDaniel (just think that the Fords are more complete team)
Johns Hopkins over Swarthmore
Washington over Dickinson (Shoremen rebound from tough loss - could be a very close game)
Franklin And Marshall over Muhlenberg (Dips win a close tough game on the road at the Mule Barn - a place in which they have never done very well)

Enojys the games! Regards to all.

Eric

[Reserved Seat]

If someone else said "eat me" that I missed lately, my statement also applies to them. But that was the particular bit of speech I was referencing.

I've been following F&M since 1966, and as an F&M fan I found that post also offensive.  Fortunately, most F&M fans don't feel that way.  I support Centennial teams all throughout the play-offs.

[Reserved Seat]

Gabriel, I posted a summary of the game Wednesday night after I got home.

[UCHooligan98]

Meh, as an ursinus fan its nice to know nothing has changed much since my day regarding F&M fans. most of them feel entitled because their coach was a winner 15 years before any of them even heard of the place.  My guess is Mayser was "crickets" during their bad run earlier last decade, it makes them no better or worse than other fans.  I only hope the bears get a third crack at em

[dipphan]

Bears are done and will not go to mayser for the tourney.  the bears should ask a real coach like Glenn rob how to shoot a basketball.  please do not comment on f and m unless you graduated from there or go to mayser a lot.  mayser was always packed and we are not fair weather fans like those at ursinus or mule or swarthmore.  from the games i have been to this year those places were empty.  sad! go dips!

[Dips75]

I've been following F&M since 1966, and as an F&M fan I found that post also offensive.  Fortunately, most F&M fans don't feel that way.  I support Centennial teams all throughout the play-offs.

I completely agree. That comment was the worst I have seen here in some time.

I suppose that excuses some of the other stuff we have seen here.