MBB: Centennial Conference

[7express]

Seems a little unfair to the Amherst men, not that I'm complaining.

But logically, wouldn't MIT be next in line?

It would be unfair to the Amherst men if the women's team was anything other than 27-0 and had more than 3 losses the last 3 years.  However, the women do get a team that's 25-2 in the second round.  As long as both Amherst teams win both games this weekend, then the men are traveling next weekend, which would leave the next choice between F&M/Hartwick/MIT, imo.  I think F&M would get it over either of those 2.  If the Amherst women lose this weekend, than I'd assume the men host next weekend as well.
I'd go: Amherst, F&M, Hartwick, MIT, Staten Island, RIC, Western in terms of hosting for sectionals, with Amherst and RIC the only teams having both men's and women's teams in the tournament.

[onetinsoldier]

Seems a little unfair to the Amherst men, not that I'm complaining.

But logically, wouldn't MIT be next in line?

I would guess Hartwick would be next in line if they win, but if not then probably F&M over MIT? Probably a toss up? I'm not seeing any potential >500 miles to worry about.
I think we have to wait and see who wins. It may be the bigger question in this fourth of the bracket.

My understanding is that total mileage criteria is not really used by the ncaa anymore, as long as the schools meet the 500 mile criteria they would pick the best available team that has a facility that meets the necessary requirements to host.  I'm shocked MIT isnt hosting, but is it possible their facility doesnt meet the minimum requirements?  Of course, with Hartwick losing in the E8 finals who knows if they dropped from no1 in region

[old_hooper]

A lot of ifs but should it come down to Amherst, F & M, MIT and RIC for sectionals, a good chance that MIT would host because of the three schools (AMH, MIT & RIC) being so close to each other.  To go to F & M it would be a 5 to 6 hour bus trip for each and that could happen too.  Should Western Conn advance I would still think that MIT would have the best shot to land the sectionals.  MIT facility looks like they can bring bleachers to meet the NCAA requirements if necessary.

[Reserved Seat]

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[Omahamike]

What time are the games on Friday and Saturday at Mayser?  Will D3 hoops be broadcasting the games? 

[mailsy]

Game 1 is at 5:30pm W Conn. vs CNU and Game 2 to follow @ 7:30pm York (Pa) at F&M.  Saturday game at 7:00pm.

[njf1003]

What time are the games on Friday and Saturday at Mayser?  Will D3 hoops be broadcasting the games?

D3 hoops won't be doing the games, but F&M will be broadcasting them all (even the non-F&M ones) at godiplomats.com/live for free as with all basketball games at Mayser.

[crambam]

I'm still at a loss to figure out why the Amherst men would have to move.  It makes no sense. 

Financially, if they charge, there's no way the men wouldn't outsell the women. 

They should either move the women's start time, or move the women. 

Could anyone imagine the Knicks moving venues because the Liberty want the court?

It's absolute silliness.  The Amherst men earned a seeding, and to lose it because of the women's team is just ridiculous.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad this is happening because it could potentially help F&M, but this is not justice.

If this WAS F&M in this position, I'd be angry as hell. 

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7express,
Two different philosophies  for the three between Western Connecticut and F&M.
Western Connecticut 254/668  Brooks    92/261
F&M                        86/247   Milligan  31/67

Brooks has taken more threes than the entire F&M team.

[sunny]

I'm still at a loss to figure out why the Amherst men would have to move.  It makes no sense. 

Financially, if they charge, there's no way the men wouldn't outsell the women. 

They should either move the women's start time, or move the women. 

Could anyone imagine the Knicks moving venues because the Liberty want the court?

It's absolute silliness.  The Amherst men earned a seeding, and to lose it because of the women's team is just ridiculous.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad this is happening because it could potentially help F&M, but this is not justice.

If this WAS F&M in this position, I'd be angry as hell.

It's called equality. Frankly, I can't think of anything more fair in DIVISION III than, in a situation where one team HAS to not host that the team with the better overall season be the one who gets to play at home.

And let's not go comparing the gate receipt difference of Amherst's men's and women's games to that of the Knicks and Liberty.  Seriously? Remember, the Division III basketball tournament isn't a money-maker anyway.

[crambam]

That's unrealistic.  It's not equality when the better team loses out.  And you can't honestly believe that women's sports is equal to men's sports.  That's a load of hooey. 

You want equality?  Let them play for the court.  Men v. women.  Let the skills of both teams come into play.  20 minutes.  Not a full game.  The men would likely win by 50 even in a short half, but that's life. 

They should find a way to accommodate both squads if they both deserve it.

The point of the Knicks/Liberty example is that no one cares about the Liberty, just like besides maybe the women on the team and their parents, no one cares about women's sports.

If letting the two teams play for it doesn't work, then how about comparing attendance between the men's and women's games.  I'm sure they can figure out that the men likely had a much bigger crowd during the regular season.

If Amherst loses to a team hosting, they get screwed, and not in the good way.

[Reserved Seat]

Isn't this a mute point until we see who wins?

[ddm1027]

I'm still at a loss to figure out why the Amherst men would have to move.  It makes no sense. 

Financially, if they charge, there's no way the men wouldn't outsell the women. 

They should either move the women's start time, or move the women. 

Could anyone imagine the Knicks moving venues because the Liberty want the court?

It's absolute silliness.  The Amherst men earned a seeding, and to lose it because of the women's team is just ridiculous.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad this is happening because it could potentially help F&M, but this is not justice.

If this WAS F&M in this position, I'd be angry as hell.

It's called equality. Frankly, I can't think of anything more fair in DIVISION III than, in a situation where one team HAS to not host that the team with the better overall season be the one who gets to play at home.

And let's not go comparing the gate receipt difference of Amherst's men's and women's games to that of the Knicks and Liberty.  Seriously? Remember, the Division III basketball tournament isn't a money-maker anyway.

It could end up being a non-issue, but I also think it is unfortunate that one of the Amherst teams may have to move.  I agree with Sunny though, that given the current rules the undefeated and #1 ranked women should get to host in this situation.  You have to give Amherst a lot of credit for having both teams in such a great position. It is too bad that Amherst is not allowed to find a way to host both or use the nearby facilities at Mt. Holyoke or Smith to host, so that they still have a home crowd and distance advantage rather than playing a host in their gym.  The rule as it stands does not make all that much sense.  I'm not even going to respond to most of what crambam wrote.  I'm sure the rest of the F&M fans on this board are embarrassed enough by it.

[gordonmann]

The women would host on the second weekend because 2012 is an even year.  If the situation occurs again next year, then the men would get to host.  Not because it's a better draw or the school's choice.  Just because it's an odd year.

[crambam]

The truth is not embarrassing.  The idea that this is even an issue is the embarrassment.  Have the women play earlier in the day.  Problem solved. 

I agree that it's not an issue until Amherst wins its games, but they should barring a major upset.

The odd/even year thing is also ridiculous and random.  How often does this even happen?