MBB: Centennial Conference

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Milligan makes First Team All-American
http://www.godiplomats.com/sports/m-baskbl/2011-12/releases/201203157hzh8f

[centfan]

one tin soldier
here is the link from cc news:
http://static.psbin.com/a/j/f0vm9g7gowgp30/Winter_AHR_2012.pdf

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Let's look at some basketball academic honor roll numbers and standings in a student/athlete conference for 2011-12:
Haverford-6
Hopkins-5
Swarthmore-4
Ursinus-2
Dickinson,Washington,Muhlenberg,Gettysburg-1
F&M, McDaniel-0

-Top 3 teams had five times as many as the other 7 teams combined.
-Haverford alone had twice as many as the bottom 7 teams combined.
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Your point?

[centfan]

reserved seat,
academic achievements seem important. agreed?
make of it what you will.
also, you missed the corrected post below:

here are the corrections:
Haverford-6
Hopkins-5
Swarthmore-4
Ursinus-2
Dickinson,Washington,Muhlenberg,Gettysburg-1
F&M, McDaniel-0
-top 3 times combined are 2.5 times as many as bottom 7 teams combined.
-haverford alone has as many as the bottom 7 teams combined.

[Dips75]

Academic achievement means quite a bit, of course. What the criteria for such awards do not account for is the differences in schools academically, and the differences in grading and workload. Some schools are known to inflate grades, others to deflate grades. Some schools have more rigorous workloads, while others have more lenient expectations.

It does bring into some question the methodology of such a list. There is no perfect way to evaluate both athletic and academic achievement, and this way is certainly not perfect.

That said, kudos to those student-athletes who did make the list.

[centfan]

dips,
safe to say that the three top schools this year on the list are not grade inflators, light in workload or lenient in expectations(hopkins, haverford and swarthmore). there probably would be general agreement as to which schools are the most rigorous academically just as there is general agreement as to which basketball teams are better.
in terms of methodology for the list being brought into some question, we could say that about all lists that distinguish some and not others.
i would have to object to your post which attempts to qualify the accomplishments of these students by questioning the criteria for the list and then pat them on the back.
a GPA is a stat that generally indicates both intellect and hard work, granted it is imperfect similar to an assist or scoring statistic.
i say, quite simply,congrats to all who have both played college basketball and earned their place on this list.

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Not questioning the accomplishments, but questioning your comparisons.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/features/college-rankings/2011/most-rigorous.all.html

three Centennial Conference teams

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/features/college-rankings/2011/least-rigorous.all.html

one Centennial Conference team

Academic achievement means quite a bit, of course. What the criteria for such awards do not account for is the differences in schools academically, and the differences in grading and workload. Some schools are known to inflate grades, others to deflate grades. Some schools have more rigorous workloads, while others have more lenient expectations.

It does bring into some question the methodology of such a list. There is no perfect way to evaluate both athletic and academic achievement, and this way is certainly not perfect.

That said, kudos to those student-athletes who did make the list.

Not that I agree with the Newsweek's rankings, but there is big difference in the philosophy of grading from school to school.  My brother went to an Ivy League school, and their basis for grading was much different from what I experienced.

[centfan]

reserved seat. some basketball teams in the CC can do better on the court. some basketball teams can do better off the court. reasonable? let's keep it simple.

[centfan]

cabrini up by 14 in second half in championship

[centfan]

tough game...uww beat cabrini by 3...wanted to se our area team win

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reserved seat. some basketball teams in the CC can do better on the court. some basketball teams can do better off the court. reasonable? let's keep it simple.

Pretty simplistic comment.
No sense disagreeing over something we won't agree.

[sunny]

reserved seat. some basketball teams in the CC can do better on the court. some basketball teams can do better off the court. reasonable? let's keep it simple.

I think it's a more than fair assumption to think that in the Centennial Conference, none of the teams are littered with guys on the verge of failing out or barely getting by.  If you're a Dean's List student, congratulations - you absolutely should be proud, but the solid B .. or even high C ... student is likely still getting a darn good education at any of our schools and will end up with a degree and a relatively good shot in an admittedly difficult job market. Isn't that what it's all about?

[Dips75]

dips,
safe to say that the three top schools this year on the list are not grade inflators, light in workload or lenient in expectations(hopkins, haverford and swarthmore). there probably would be general agreement as to which schools are the most rigorous academically just as there is general agreement as to which basketball teams are better.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/features/college-rankings/2011/most-rigorous.all.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/features/college-rankings/2011/least-rigorous.all.html

[Dips75]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/features/college-rankings/2011/most-rigorous.all.html

three Centennial Conference teams

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/features/college-rankings/2011/least-rigorous.all.html

one Centennial Conference team

Academic achievement means quite a bit, of course. What the criteria for such awards do not account for is the differences in schools academically, and the differences in grading and workload. Some schools are known to inflate grades, others to deflate grades. Some schools have more rigorous workloads, while others have more lenient expectations.

It does bring into some question the methodology of such a list. There is no perfect way to evaluate both athletic and academic achievement, and this way is certainly not perfect.

That said, kudos to those student-athletes who did make the list.

Not that I agree with the Newsweek's rankings, but there is big difference in the philosophy of grading from school to school.  My brother went to an Ivy League school, and their basis for grading was much different from what I experienced.

I see you cited the same Daily Beast rankings I did. That is an independent study done strictly on rigor. F&M is fourth in that national list, behind three non-CC schools. Swarthmore is 15th, Bryn Mawr is 24th, and that is it for the top 25.