MBB: Centennial Conference

Started by swish, March 01, 2005, 04:51:33 PM

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centfan

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Haverford with a big win over F&M. Pretty even except the Fords got to the line a lot and F&M didn't. Baker shot 8 for 10 from the field for the fords..
Dickinson defeats Ursinus. Dickinson starters out rebounded Bears starters about 24 to 9 and won the point guard matchup.
Swat, Washington lose. muhlenberg loses to Hopkins.. Hopkins defense wins games.

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#4681
After E&M only took 3 foul shots, I wonder what the Centennial record is for least number of foul shots taken in a game.
I found out that 58 foul shots taken is the record, but I could not find any listing for least taken.

centfan

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The stats for foul shooting did seem uneven in the Haverford/F&M game. I only saw part of the game on video. Someone who was there said Haverford played a vey good defensive game and F&M was pressing a bit as they were not leading much and fouling alot. Were you there? I have a hard time seeng fouls on video.

HoopGuru

Yet another tough one for Ursinus on Saturday.  Not sure if they realize this yet but they do not have the same shooters on this years team that they have had in years past so going down and launching up 29 of them isn't going to work. Draper is not a 3 point shooter (5 attempts), Krasna is not a 3 point shooter (6 attempts) and neither is Adams (4 attempts). in conference play they are shooting 32%, 20% and 30% respectively. the other thing that stands out is how they got drilled on the boards. Ward has 2 rebounds in 29 minutes? Looking at the conference releases he has just 3 double doubles in now almost 4 years of playing, which is the same as Krasna and 1 behind Adams.  Seems like other elite bigs in the league are getting it done on both ends of the court so not sure why Ward hasnt been able to throughout his career.  They are really up against it these last 3 weeks with the next 3 on the road.  ONly good thing about Thursdays game is that they might be getting F&M at the right time.  Doesn't seem like they have played very well recently
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njf1003

Quote from: HoopGuru on January 27, 2013, 07:55:39 PM
ONly good thing about Thursdays game is that they might be getting F&M at the right time.  Doesn't seem like they have played very well recently
But F&M is playing at home, and that's the only reason F&M has a chance. F&M is not playing well on the road at all.
Losing Early isn't good at all because Hayk and Jon really can't play the whole game, but with out those two in, they can't seem to get anything done.

Hopefully these two home games get them back on their winning ways as Dickinson is playing better down the stretch.

centfan

#4685
Quote from: HoopGuru on January 27, 2013, 07:55:39 PM
Yet another tough one for Ursinus on Saturday.  Not sure if they realize this yet but they do not have the same shooters on this years team that they have had in years past so going down and launching up 29 of them isn't going to work. Draper is not a 3 point shooter (5 attempts), Krasna is not a 3 point shooter (6 attempts) and neither is Adams (4 attempts). in conference play they are shooting 32%, 20% and 30% respectively. the other thing that stands out is how they got drilled on the boards. Ward has 2 rebounds in 29 minutes? Looking at the conference releases he has just 3 double doubles in now almost 4 years of playing, which is the same as Krasna and 1 behind Adams.  Seems like other elite bigs in the league are getting it done on both ends of the court so not sure why Ward hasnt been able to throughout his career.  They are really up against it these last 3 weeks with the next 3 on the road.  ONly good thing about Thursdays game is that they might be getting F&M at the right time.  Doesn't seem like they have played very well recently
I agree with your thoughts. Ursinus hasn't had a reliable shooter since Hilton graduated. Draper seems much more of a "scorer" than a shooter. Throughout his career, Ward has been offensively (scoring) minded, takes shots he can make and gets to the line. Rebounding, defending and blocking shots have not been a big part of his game. He is 6'10 and Janowski is 6'8. It seems like they could do alot more to control play in the paint.

onetinsoldier

I'm really supposed to take seriously a game where F&M and Haverford have similar 2pt shooting stats 43 attempts for F&M vs 37 for Haverford, yet Haverford has 24 more FT attempts???  really???  Not watching the game that doesnt even pass the smell test.  Gary Duda, Alex O'Brian and Doug Hoffman shouldnt quit their day jobs.
Go ahead and hate your neighbor, Go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, You can justify it in the end. There won't be any trumpets blowing Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away.

centfan

Quote from: onetinsoldier on January 28, 2013, 09:38:36 AM
I'm really supposed to take seriously a game where F&M and Haverford have similar 2pt shooting stats 43 attempts for F&M vs 37 for Haverford, yet Haverford has 24 more FT attempts???  really???  Not watching the game that doesnt even pass the smell test.  Gary Duda, Alex O'Brian and Doug Hoffman shouldnt quit their day jobs.
I would take it seriously. They beat Haverford by only 2 the first game at home. Fouls this past game were 21 to 10. First half was 7 for F&M and 6 for Fords (even). Second half was 14 for F&M and 4 for Haverford. Perhaps F&M was fouling alot in the second half and Haverford wasn't? Regardless, let's not blame a win or a loss on the refs and give Haverford credit for playing F&M tough twice this year.

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Watching the game court side, a lot of fouls were not called.  Haverford was playing a ball-hawking defense, slapping at the ball and not getting called for fouls.  Under the basketball, Salandra was shoved to the floor and no foul was called.

onetinsoldier

Quote from: Reserved Seat on January 28, 2013, 11:45:40 AM
Watching the game court side, a lot of fouls were not called.  Haverford was playing a ball-hawking defense, slapping at the ball and not getting called for fouls.  Under the basketball, Salandra was shoved to the floor and no foul was called.

That would be my guess.  And please know i'm not trying to slight the Haverford kids in anyway.  They play hard, and that is exactly the reason for my post.  Both sides have great student-athletes, and they deserve better than a game that poorly officiated.  As fans, we take whatever result we can get, but as players, you always want to earn your win.
Go ahead and hate your neighbor, Go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, You can justify it in the end. There won't be any trumpets blowing Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away.

Reserved Seat

Haverford definitely deserved to win.  They played with much more intensity, and F&M's shot selection was poor.

centfan

thanks one tin and reserved for your thoughts about the f&m/haverford game. i agree that officials have to be within reason and do, at the very least, an acceptable job.

Gabriel

Ursinus' alumni game was on Saturday morning.  It was great talking to some of the alums that stayed for the game with Dickinson including Nick Shattuck, Remy Cousart, John Noonan, Dennis Stanton, Will Furey, Kevin McGarvey and Matt Brundage among others.  All are doing well.  The Bears could use some of that talent on the court this year.  I didn't watch the alumni game but obviously, they had a great time.  Remy was the MVP----although he was on the losing team.  Dennis Stanton didn't play much as he was recovering from the flu and Mike McGarvey (an assistant at Colgate) wasn't there, so there were more shots available for others.   

Talking with these young men, confirmed my observations about the Bears this year---they lack team chemistry and on-court leadership.  There is no Nick Shattuck, Remy Cousart, Mike McGarvey or Dennis Stanton to take over and pull the team together at crunch time.  I think the talent is there, but very dormant.

onetinsoldier

Against my better judgment, i decided to give a first run of my efficiency model for D3 for the season.  the numbers are bleak for the Centennial.  the best team is F&M, currently at 94th in the nation.  Next on the list is Gettysburg at 127.  Dickinson is at 130, Muhl at 133 and JHU at 149.  We have 3 sub 300 teams (Swat, Haverford and Washington at 377).

Unless work, or anger over the Dips recent play changes my mood i'll try running this again at tournament time, as well as for the last five weeks of the season.
Go ahead and hate your neighbor, Go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, You can justify it in the end. There won't be any trumpets blowing Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away.

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