MBB: Centennial Conference

Started by swish, March 01, 2005, 04:51:33 PM

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centfan

i agree that robinson doesn't deserve coach of the year this season...dickinson wins conference, F&M underachieved...seems fairly clear.

Swat Fan #1

Swarthmore ignored as only team with no one on team even though they had #5 and #6 in scoring and moved up three places in standings. What a complete farce! The only team!

njf1003

Quote from: centfan on February 27, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
i agree that robinson doesn't deserve coach of the year this season...dickinson wins conference, F&M underachieved...seems fairly clear.
I'm in agreement here with everyone else.
Why did Robinson get Coach of the Year?

Dickinson improved from last year while F&M fell.
The only thing I can think of is if they were voted for last week then maybe.... but still Dickinson was better then what most people thought.

Also, swat never gets any love. They seem like a red-headed step child of the CC. Hopefully next year they'll get some respect. 

Reserved Seat

I don't know if F&M underachieved.  My expectations were not that high after losing a person of Milligan's ability.  They definitely were inconsistent, but they won games they usually lost, for example Muhlenberg and McDaniel away.  At the beginning of the season, I thought 14-4 was a reasonable expectation for the league.  Coming into the season, you know Brewer would be an adequate point guard.  He won't turn the ball over often, he had experience, but he wasn't going to score many points.  Gyokchyan would get attention from all teams and their goal would be to shut him down.  Beckford would provide great defense, but limited offense.  The key to the season was going to be Porter and Salandra along with bench.  Injuries took care of most of the bench, especially the loss of Early.  F&M needed a 3-point threat as could be seen from the final performance against Dickinson-0 for 12 from the starters.  Freshman Krong never was able to get onto the court or Brahm due to injuries.  Hopefully, Krong can provide a 3-point presence next year.

centfan

swat should have gotten some love from the conference (kober or gates).
as with everything in life, biases (conscious or unconscious) come into play.

shoreman55

swat got snubbed on both accounts. how do they decide which teams have what players? seems interesting that second team got 6 players while honorable mention got 4. Just is strange that they didn't even add a 5th player to honorable mention, they just took one player up from honorable mention. got to imagine some serious self-esteem points were at stake.

Reserved Seat

Having 6 players on Second Team usually indicates a tie in votes received.
Adding a 5th player to Honorable Mention might have been a problem if there were several players tied for the 16th spot.

Hooper

In addition, heard the F&M Athletic Trainer was Trainer of the year.

Reserved Seat

Nope, not trainer of the year for his work on F&M players, or they would have been back; but maybe for his work on Killing and Honig.  The first game against Muhlenberg at home, Killing kept going down with injuries but kept coming back.  Honig came back with a vengeance after an injury in the game the week before.

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In my mind, Will Gates was clearly one of the 5 best players in the CC this year.  Going into the season, I thought he would be selected POY.  I don't  know what happened this year between him and his coach if anything----but there appeared to be a problem of some sort.  You don't go from being a star for three years and then being relegated to the bench.  Perhaps one of the reasons neither Will nor any of his teammates were selected to the CC All Conference team this year is connected to what Swarthmore did or did not do to promote them.  Wish we would have had him at Ursinus this year.

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centfan

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dear swat dad,
cam baker and brett cohen from haverford clearly deserve to be on the all conference teams and to say they got it because of politics is truly unfair to them and the seasons they both had.

Swat Fan #1

Sorry, I didn't say it right. I apologize. How can both players from Swat not be in top 15? That is what I meant. If it is about winning, they won more than Haverford. That is what I tried to say.

r.w. mcnickels

Quote from: centfan on February 27, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
i agree that robinson doesn't deserve coach of the year this season...dickinson wins conference, F&M underachieved...seems fairly clear.

If the voting was the same as in past years, the ballots were due before the conference playoffs. So Dickinson winning on Saturday wouldn't have factored into the decision.

This was such a mediocre year for the CC that it's hard to say who deserved POY and COY. In other years, I can remember several players who deserved POY in the same season. This year, especially due to Wixted's injury, nobody seemed to rise to the top. Hayk was way too inconsistent to be POY in most years.

This is only the fifth year COY has been awarded, and Robinson has never won it. He might not have deserved it this year, but if it's based on the regular season, it was a close call. Interestingly, Alan Seretti won the COY in 2011 when F&M beat Dickinson for the CC title. Also, Robinson was arguably "shafted" out of the award in 2009 when it went to Kevin Curley after the Dips went from a laughingstock to first place and eventually a Final Four berth.