MBB: Centennial Conference

CCHoopster · January 18, 2014, 09:23:06 PM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 18, 2014, 11:41:02 AM
Quote from: ronk on January 17, 2014, 06:39:22 PM
Yes, F&M looked pretty good in closing out the Mules; my fellow analysts of the Mid-Atlantic ran be a kings seem to be overlooking their improvement of late.

As one of those... I am not overlooking their improvement... but at CC pointed out... who have they beaten?

Their loss to McDaniel supports why no one had them in their top 8 regional rankings. Winning tonight would have been a strong win and showed me (not that that matters to much) their improvement was legit, not just wins vs mediocre teams.

diplomaniac1 · January 20, 2014, 06:22:35 AM

Here are my predictions for tomorrow's Centennial Conference games:

Muhlenberg @ Ursinus: Mules have too much for the Bears.

McDaniel @ Gettysburg: Gettysburg wins a nail-biter when Terror has let-down game after big win on road over F&M.

Washington @ Johns Hopkins: Hopkins.

Swarthmore @ Haverford: This game is a "coin flip" to me. I will take the Fords at home.

Dickinson @ F&M: I will pick with my heart and take the Diplomats to win a close game at home to upset the heavily-favored Devils. Unfortunately, I have an evening meeting scheduled which will preclude my attendance at Mayser Center.

Here are several of my observations from last week's games involving F&M. Although Killing scored his season average against F&M, Porter's defense in the second half clearly frustrated Killing as he tried take over the game and repeatedly tried to do too much. Many times, the rest of the Mules were an afterthought to the "Killing Show" on offense. The game against McDaniel was a "trap game" and the Diplomats suffered a let-down and fell right into it and the loss.

Enjoy the games! Regards to all.

Eric

CCHoopster · January 20, 2014, 09:34:11 AM

"Trap Game"= pre determined excuse. Really good teams win games. McDaniel is a good team this year, that in my opinion was not a trap game but a tough game off a big win. Haverford would have been a trap game if the Dips played them. Dips playing decent ball last 3 weeks and have a huge test this week.

njf1003 · January 20, 2014, 12:46:38 PM

Quote from: diplomaniac1 on January 20, 2014, 06:22:35 AM

Here are my predictions for tomorrow's Centennial Conference games

I'm sure you're aware, but these are Wednesday's games.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · January 20, 2014, 02:51:25 PM

Sorry - can't jump on the idea that the F&M-McDaniel game was a trap game either... especially considering they already played each other this year and the score was F&M 66-61.

McDaniel is 11-4 and 6-2 in the conference... nothing about their resume describes them as qualifying for a "trap game."

CCHoopster · January 20, 2014, 04:24:16 PM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 20, 2014, 02:51:25 PM
Sorry - can't jump on the idea that the F&M-McDaniel game was a trap game either... especially considering they already played each other this year and the score was F&M 66-61.

McDaniel is 11-4 and 6-2 in the conference... nothing about their resume describes them as qualifying for a "trap game."

Could you, Dave, see McDaniel sneaking into the 9th spot for Regional Rankings?

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · January 20, 2014, 04:49:53 PM

Honestly... it depends on SOS numbers. Maybe, but the conference really isn't helping the OWP and OOWP numbers right now. Certainly not bad, just not helping. But McDaniel only has four losses and that will help... though this region is DEEP this year.

CCHoopster · January 20, 2014, 06:09:08 PM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 20, 2014, 04:49:53 PM
Honestly... it depends on SOS numbers. Maybe, but the conference really isn't helping the OWP and OOWP numbers right now. Certainly not bad, just not helping. But McDaniel only has four losses and that will help... though this region is DEEP this year.

Which Landmark team do you like in the RR's? I liked Juniata until their loss.

centfan · January 20, 2014, 07:30:47 PM

wednesday games:
muhlenberg
mcdaniel
washington
swarthmore
f&m

CCHoopster · January 21, 2014, 09:14:37 AM

Thinking at some point Dickinson needs to be ranked. I guess the loss to Juniata and RMC are holding them back. If they go 2-0 this week starting with a game against the Dips tomorrow night they should get there.

centfan · January 21, 2014, 04:39:03 PM

centennial seems to be having a down year as a conference
there are not alot of strong players this year
so far,dickinson has the best record but i am not sure they will win the conference (muhlenberg, f&m and mcdaniel also good candidates)
i think wixted is the best player in the conference, and was last year as well
seretti gets the most out of his guys. they play hard and play together, but they do not strike me as an upper level d3 team. they win on common sense basketball and foul shooting, which is enough in this conference, but they are a bit short on talent to compete with top d3 teams.

CCHoopster · January 21, 2014, 08:52:06 PM

Quote from: centfan on January 21, 2014, 04:39:03 PM
centennial seems to be having a down year as a conference
there are not alot of strong players this year
so far,dickinson has the best record but i am not sure they will win the conference (muhlenberg, f&m and mcdaniel also good candidates)
i think wixted is the best player in the conference, and was last year as well
seretti gets the most out of his guys. they play hard and play together, but they do not strike me as an upper level d3 team. they win on common sense basketball and foul shooting, which is enough in this conference, but they are a bit short on talent to compete with top d3 teams.

They made it to the 2nd rd of the NCAA's last year with this group. They lost one guy who was in their primary rotation, Barsanti, who was not a major impact guy though. 6'9 Collins didn't play a whole season last year and is healthy this year. They return two all region players Honig and Wixted and Wixted was all district. Angradi is a sophomore now and is much better than last year. This team is more experienced with the same pieces as last year and better, IMO.

CCHOOPS12 · January 22, 2014, 08:44:04 AM

I predict tonight will turn this conference upside down and have everyone wondering who is going to win this league....

Muhlenberg @ Ursinus: Mules by 38 pts. Just look how killing and hargrove traditionally do against the bears.

McDaniel @ Gettysburg: McDaniel in an ugly game. First team to 50 points wins. Green Terror are for real. Only a few wins away from being the best team in school history.

Washington @ Johns Hopkins: Washington

Swarthmore @ Haverford: Haverford

Dickinson @ F&M: In the dip zone, they have some revenge after last years CC finals. F&M by double digits...

Safe Travels...best time of the year in the CC

centfan · January 22, 2014, 02:44:41 PM

cchoopster
i guess you are a dickinson fan!!
what you say is all true, but i still feel that the number of guys who can make plays on dickinson is limited
(and it was limited last year as well)
their second game in the 2013 tourney was a wake-up call in terms of the different levels of play within D3
f&m actually seems more balanced than dickinson to me despite their rough start this year
dickinson still has f&m twice,muhlenberg twice and mcdaniel once more this season
i expect f&m to be tougher for them than muhlenberg, as wixted should get the best of the mules down low much easier than what he has to deal with against f&m
good luck

CCD3Basketball · January 22, 2014, 05:10:34 PM

Glad to see the weather didn't wipe out tonight's games! Here are my predictions:

Muhlenberg @ Ursinus: no reason to think the mules shouldn't roll in this one

McDaniel @ Gettysburg: Green Terror are due for a loss. I think Gettysburg gives it to them tonight.

Swarthmore @ Haverford: coin flip. I'll take the fords at home.

Washington @ Johns Hopkins: good matchup. Both teams could use a win to stay close in the CC playoff race. I'll take the Shoremen on the road.

Dickinson @ F&M: clearly the best game in the CC tonight. You know F&M is still mad over their McDaniel loss. But in the end, Dickinson hasn't given me a reason to pick against them all year long. Give me the Red Devils for the huge road win.