MBB: Centennial Conference

Started by swish, March 01, 2005, 04:51:33 PM

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iwumichigander

You posters are correct.  A good, tough basketball team which represented its' school and conference well.  Dickinson has a solid program to build upon; and, hopefully you can just reload!

Titan Q

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Dickinson is one of the best teams I have seen all year.  They played hard and smart and just did so many things well on the floor...in addition to being extremely talented. 


CCHOOPS12

Congrats to Dickinson for a great year! Amazingly they were in last place just a few years ago...Also, congrats to Honig, Wixted and Killing for all region. Killing 2nd team all mid Atlantic region but only second team all conference. We need to stop allowing coaches to select all cc because it seems they base their votes on something else besides a players performance on the court..

centfan

coaching is key, as well as recruiting and developing a basketball culture at a school. seretti and staff have done a great job with that, born out by their success. seretti seemed to set a tone right from the start and give his players a winning mentality. other coaches could earn alot from him.

Reserved Seat

The coaches see the players play and aren't affected by glorified stats.

diplomaniac1


Reserved -

Well-said. Although he is talented, I also would not have placed Killing on the All Conference First Team. Congrats to the Devils for a great season!

Eric


Pat Coleman

Quote from: Reserved Seat on March 17, 2014, 11:12:09 PM
The coaches see the players play and aren't affected by glorified stats.

Not every coach is in agreement on who should be on which team. Seretti mentioned Killing as being deserving of All-American several times in his postgame news conference on Friday night. Now, I don't think he'll get it, but just know that "the coaches' opinion" is hardly uniform.
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Hooper

Numbers don't lie...
                   gp   pts/g   fg %   3pt %   ft %   reb/g   a/g   W/L
A  Honig                   30   16.4   44.3   40.2   74.3   3.8   3   24-7
Hammer                   28   13.8   40.2   37.1   85.5   3.4   1.3   17-11
M Porter                   26   14.2   46.8   27.5   65.3   3.8   1.7   17-9
M  Killing                   25   21.7   45.1   36.1   87.6   2.6   3.6   16-10

In the end, you may not like the way a certain player plays, but the facts are partly in the numbers.   There were 2 other players on Muhlenberg that averaged double figures (Stavetski 13.2 and Hargrove 10.5).   It is not like he took 40+% of the shots available.  He averaged 17 shots/game (4 of which were 3's) of the teams 56 shots/game.  He did control the ball more than that percentage alot of the time, which is where I think people have an issue..  It is not "traditional"..

Reality is that he is a scoring point gaurd mainly off the dribble.  He is not a "traditional" 2 gaurd or point gaurd like some of the other players on the all-CC list.   Maybe that is where the difference of opinion lies?? 


CCHOOPS12

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 18, 2014, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: Reserved Seat on March 17, 2014, 11:12:09 PM
The coaches see the players play and aren't affected by glorified stats.

Not every coach is in agreement on who should be on which team. Seretti mentioned Killing as being deserving of All-American several times in his postgame news conference on Friday night. Now, I don't think he'll get it, but just know that "the coaches' opinion" is hardly uniform.

Don't you think it's a little odd that he is being "discussed" as an All American but not first team all league?

HoopGuru

There's so much politics to the voting by the head coaches.  They vote in certain ways knowing that if they don't vote for a certain player on a certain team it might give one of their players a better chance of making one of the teams.  Did F&M really deserve to have 2 players on 1st Team?  Probably not and if I had to guess I am sure the Hall of Fame coach voted in a certain way thinking it might give those 2 a better chance to get on the first team.  Bottom line; the coaches talk before all of that stuff comes out so I would bet they all have a pretty good handle on how it will unfold if they vote a certain way.  Fortunately, he got rewarded making an all-region team where the CC coaches cant dictate the outcome and the all-region team is much more impressive than all-CC team.  We all saw what F&M did in the playoffs with those 2 first teamers anyway.
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Hooper

HoopGuru-

Thanks.  I figured some of that may happen.  I could see the Swat coach not voting for him since he was disqualified late in that game.    Do they still have the ECAC-South voting???  Totally agree all-District is significantly more impressive.  60 teams in MidAtlantic District.   Honig, Killing and Wixted are well deserving of that honor. 

givengo

Quote from: centfan on March 11, 2013, 11:54:43 PM
i see dickinson was defeated handily by wooster, which i expected. i never thought they could get far in the post season. they play well with what they have but they don't have good enough players to go against legitimate D3 programs.
centennial conference, across the board, has to recruit better players in the conference in order to compete in the tourney.
we will see what next year brings.
happy trails all!

Was looking through post season comments from last season for background on the Centennial All Conference selections, and saw this old chestnut...Dickinson made their Elite Eight run primarily with who they already had on board last season--interesting.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: CCHOOPS12 on March 19, 2014, 11:49:08 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 18, 2014, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: Reserved Seat on March 17, 2014, 11:12:09 PM
The coaches see the players play and aren't affected by glorified stats.

Not every coach is in agreement on who should be on which team. Seretti mentioned Killing as being deserving of All-American several times in his postgame news conference on Friday night. Now, I don't think he'll get it, but just know that "the coaches' opinion" is hardly uniform.

Don't you think it's a little odd that he is being "discussed" as an All American but not first team all league?

I don't think he'll officially make our discussion but it might be the all-conference team that's odd here. It happens sometimes.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

givengo



Seretti Named Finalist for Glenn Robinson Coach of the Year Award

http://www.dickinsonathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/releases/20140331q72y2g

Well deserved IMHO

Gray Fox

I understand that Sports Illustrated has an interesting story on Haverford basketball from a few years ago.  My friend was reading it to me and couldn't stop laughing. 
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