BB: Pool B

[Jim Dixon]

You can check out all conference standing at http://www.d3baseball.com/standings/

[JohnnyU]

Is there any way we can use this to calculate OWPs and OOWPs. The standings are great but they don't tell us everything we need.

[Jim Dixon]

Is there any way we can use this to calculate OWPs and OOWPs. The standings are great but they don't tell us everything we need.

The object of having all scores of all games is to have the information that the NCAA has to guide us in our playoff predictions.  OWP, OOWP are a natural successor to this new feature.

[CrashDavisD3]

Big games for Pool B bid team impacts this weekend.

Bethany Lutheran vs St. Scholastica 3 games

Linfield vs Chapman 4 games

Monday will have a better idea how Pool B is shaping up

[BigPoppa]

Big games for Pool B bid team impacts this weekend.

Bethany Lutheran vs St. Scholastica 3 games

Linfield vs Chapman 4 games

Monday will have a better idea how Pool B is shaping up

I don't think the Linfield/Chapman series has much impact on the Pool B bids. I think Chapman is almost a lock barring a disaster this weekend and Linfield is not a Pool B team. CSS/Bethany will have the biggest impact on the Pool B teams. Ithaca is coming on strong right now in their region. this is going to be very interesting to watch unfold as a weaker Pool B may get a bid while a stronger Pool C is left out.

[biggio34]

Big games for Pool B bid team impacts this weekend.

Bethany Lutheran vs St. Scholastica 3 games

Linfield vs Chapman 4 games

Monday will have a better idea how Pool B is shaping up

I don't think the Linfield/Chapman series has much impact on the Pool B bids. I think Chapman is almost a lock barring a disaster this weekend and Linfield is not a Pool B team. CSS/Bethany will have the biggest impact on the Pool B teams. Ithaca is coming on strong right now in their region. this is going to be very interesting to watch unfold as a weaker Pool B may get a bid while a stronger Pool C is left out.

Do you think there is any chance that two Pool B's could come out of the UMAC?  Say CSS and Bethany Lutheran split the season series and conference tourney games, could they both make it?  I don't see it, but I still think they would be in the top 4 for Pool B consideration.

[BigPoppa]

Big games for Pool B bid team impacts this weekend.

Bethany Lutheran vs St. Scholastica 3 games

Linfield vs Chapman 4 games

Monday will have a better idea how Pool B is shaping up

I don't think the Linfield/Chapman series has much impact on the Pool B bids. I think Chapman is almost a lock barring a disaster this weekend and Linfield is not a Pool B team. CSS/Bethany will have the biggest impact on the Pool B teams. Ithaca is coming on strong right now in their region. this is going to be very interesting to watch unfold as a weaker Pool B may get a bid while a stronger Pool C is left out.

Do you think there is any chance that two Pool B's could come out of the UMAC?  Say CSS and Bethany Lutheran split the season series and conference tourney games, could they both make it?  I don't see it, but I still think they would be in the top 4 for Pool B consideration.

I am struggling with that question myself. Would the NCAA take a second UMAC over a first place from another Pool B conference? That is the million dollar question.

[Ralph Turner]

By the end of the season, I think that Ithaca will have made a strong case for the 3rd slot.

The other benefit that the UAA schools such as WashU and Emory is the OWP/OOWP that they are able to achieve.

IMHO, Bethany needs to win 2 of 3 to impact its ranking among Pool B schools.

[BigPoppa]

By the end of the season, I think that Ithaca will have made a strong case for the 3rd slot.

The other benefit that the UAA schools such as WashU and Emory is the OWP/OOWP that they are able to achieve.

IMHO, Bethany needs to win 2 of 3 to impact its ranking among Pool B schools.

Could not agree more an ALL THREE accounts, Ralph. If Bethany is swept this weekend, they are as done as done can be.

[biggio34]

By the end of the season, I think that Ithaca will have made a strong case for the 3rd slot.

The other benefit that the UAA schools such as WashU and Emory is the OWP/OOWP that they are able to achieve.

IMHO, Bethany needs to win 2 of 3 to impact its ranking among Pool B schools.

Could not agree more an ALL THREE accounts, Ralph. If Bethany is swept this weekend, they are as done as done can be.

And what if Bethany sweeps, is CSS done then?

[BigPoppa]

I don't think so. CSS has a solid reputation, and regardless whether we like it or not, their name carries a bit more weight than Bethany's does.  Still, it will be difficult for CSS to get a bid if they are swept, but not impossible. I think getting swept makes it a MUCH harder road for Bethany than for CSS.

[CrashDavisD3]

Pool B teams April 17, 2010
St Scholastica 2 in region losses
Chapman 3 in region losses
Ithaca 2 in region losses
Bethany Lutheran 4 in region losses

and the rest ??

[JohnnyU]

IN REGION RECORD of Top 10 Pool B teams as of right now

St. Scholastica                19   2   0.905
Chapman                       20   3   0.870
Ithaca                         9   2   0.818
CSI                                17   4   0.810
Bethany Lutheran       18   5   0.783
RIT                               10   5   0.667
Huntingdon               20   10   0.667
St. John's Fisher        11   6   0.647
Maryville                       19   11   0.633
WashU                       16   12   0.571

Outside of Chapman and CSS (who I assume are in), this gets really confusing. Ithaca, St. John's Fisher, and RIT all play each other 4 times. This will knock 1 or 2 of these teams out of the race for sure. The GSAC seems pretty equal. Huntingdon and Maryville have the best in region records but are in last place and next to last place in conference. CSI plays in the CUNYAC. Not exactly a great schedule. And Bethany Lutheran just got swept by CSS. If the tournament started today, I have no idea who they'd pick.

[Ralph Turner]

JohnnyU, thanks for the research on CSI.  A winning percentage over .800 is hard to ignore.

Here is CSI's non-conference in-region record.
Stevens 2-0 (is weak this year, but wins are wins), Wesley 1-1, Montclair 1-1, NJCU, 0-1, Kean 0-1, Merchant Marine 1-0, Manhattanville 1-0, WPU 1-0.

IMHO the bolded games are good outcomes.

CSI is competing strongly for the 4th spot.

[Pat Coleman]

Adding what we have for strength of schedule numbers. I can't vouch for these to be 100 percent accurate yet, through. Still doing work to get all of the regional games correctly marked.

IN REGION RECORD of Top 10 Pool B teams as of right now

St. Scholastica                19   2   0.905   .504
Chapman                       20   3   0.870   .546
Ithaca                         9   2   0.818   .483
CSI                                17   4   0.810   .450
Bethany Lutheran       18   5   0.783   .441
RIT                               10   5   0.667   .514
Huntingdon               20   10   0.667   .532
St. John's Fisher        11   6   0.647   .555
Maryville                       19   11   0.633   .501
WashU                       16   12   0.571   .543