BB: Pool B

[CrashDavisD3]

I believe that if the NCAA picks Ithaca over St John Fisher for the NY Pool B, if NY gets one, would be a farse. St John Fisher has shown they deserve to be in and Ithaca has not. Remember, they are 16-15 and have played a NY schedule that only incluse 18 games. If that in fact happens the NCAA should be ashamed and the whole system will need a hard look.

Ithaca has a great history, but they still need to do it on the field like everyone else. They have not this year.


Just my thoughts....

I see Fisher but no Ithaca at this time in these weeks regional rankings

[Jim Dixon]

Four Pool B teams listed in the third regional rankings

St. Scholastica
Chapman
Staten Island
St. John Fisher

Hmmm wonder what that means?

[RSSmith]

Four Pool B teams listed in the third regional rankings

St. Scholastica
Chapman
Staten Island
St. John Fisher

Hmmm wonder what that means?

I think it means that Pool B is very shallow and that somebody loves Staten Island.

[Brotopia]

staten island is playing in the ECAC tourney... playing Richard Stockton today.

[OshDude]

staten island is playing in the ECAC tourney... playing Richard Stockton today.

PPD until tomorrow.

[Ralph Turner]

staten island is playing in the ECAC tourney... playing Richard Stockton today.

PPD until tomorrow.

I think that Staten Island can play themselves into or out of the tourney.

[pitcher89]

Any thoughts on Stevens as a possible Pool B bid?

They are 21-18 in region and will play FDU-Florham in the ECAC Semifinal tomorrow.  With a win in that game and a win Sunday, they would be 23-18 with a SOS that ranks in the top 10 in the nation.

I have St. Scholastica, Champman, and St. John Fisher in right now.  Can Stevens possibly sneak in the fourth spot with their very impressive strength of schedule?

[Pat Coleman]

Here's a look at other Pool B candidates besides the three locks. No particular order:

Team    W-L     Pct.     SOS
Stevens      21-18     .538     .557
Staten Island      28-10     .737    .434
LaGrange      21-16     .568     .517
Bethany Lutheran      26-8     .765     .472

Just because Staten Island is in the regional rankings doesn't mean they are a fourth lock. All we know is they are ahead of Stevens/Ithaca and any other New York Pool B team other than St. John Fisher.

[d3baseballnut]

Here's a look at other Pool B candidates besides the three locks. No particular order:

Team    W-L     Pct.     SOS
Stevens                     21-18     .538     .557
Staten Island      28-10     .737    .434
LaGrange      21-16     .568     .517
Bethany Lutheran      26-8     .765     .472

Just because Staten Island is in the regional rankings doesn't mean they are a fourth lock. All we know is they are ahead of Stevens/Ithaca and any other New York Pool B team other than St. John Fisher.

I know LaGrange beat Huntington in the GSAC tourney, but I think Huntington's #'s are the most impressive:

Huntingdon 20-11      .645      .533

[Ralph Turner]

Pool B in 2009 with the last Regional Rankings

How Pool B fared in 2009

West Unranked Chapman (Independent) won the West Region.  Lost in Game 13 to Wooster in the National Championship.  Regional record was 4-1.  They beat UT-Tyler 16-2, beat Cal Lutheran 7-6, beat Pomona-Pitzer 5-2, lost to George Fox 5-4 and then beat George Fox 7-4..  D3WS record was 2-2.  They lost to St Thomas 9-1, beat Farmingdale State 4-2, beat Kean 7-5 and lost to Wooster 11-7.

New York #3 Ithaca (E8) went 0-2, losing to WNEC 16-5, and eliminated by Cortland, 3-2.

South #1 Sailsbury (Capital AC) went 1-2 as it hosted the "South" Regional, beating W&L 3-2, losing to CNU 5-4 (10), and losing to JHU 11-6.

South Unranked York (Capital AC) went 1-2 at the "South" Regional.  York beat NCWC 12-1, lost to Shenandoah 11-2 and was eliminated by W&J 4-1.

Central Unranked Washington MO (UAA) went 0-2.  They lost to UW-Whitewater 3-2 and to Carthage 21-3.

Midwest #2 College of St Scholastica (UMAC) went 1-2.  They beat St Norbert 7-6 (11), lost to St Thomas 8-4 and the UW-Stevens Point 9-3.

If we consider Pool B as a master conference, and the committee tries to find the best teams in proportion to the number of bids allocated, then Chapman's run justifies Pool B.

[d3baseballnut]

Does Bethany Lutheran's win over St. Scholastica today change anything for their chances of getting a Pool B?

[Ralph Turner]

Does Bethany Lutheran's win over St. Scholastica today change anything for their chances of getting a Pool B?

BLC goes from 0-3 to 1-3 versus Regionally Ranked teams.

What they may have done is knock CSS down a notch?

They real thing that helps BLC is when they beat CSS again to move to 2-3 versus Regionally Ranked teams.

BLC lost the regular season series at CSS 3 games to none.

IMHO, going to 2-3 versus CSS, and winning the UMAC tourney is very good.  (2-4, not quite as good.)

[Pat Coleman]

BLC's SOS improves to .484.

[Ralph Turner]

Does Bethany Lutheran's win over St. Scholastica today change anything for their chances of getting a Pool B?

BLC goes from 0-3 to 1-3 versus Regionally Ranked teams.

What they may have done is knock CSS down a notch?

They real thing that helps BLC is when they beat CSS again to move to 2-3 versus Regionally Ranked teams.

BLC lost the regular season series at CSS 3 games to none.

IMHO, going to 2-3 versus CSS, and winning the UMAC tourney is very good.  (2-4, not quite as good.)

But UWW and the Tommies lost today, as well!

[JohnnyU]

Does Bethany Lutheran's win over St. Scholastica today change anything for their chances of getting a Pool B?

BLC goes from 0-3 to 1-3 versus Regionally Ranked teams.

What they may have done is knock CSS down a notch?

They real thing that helps BLC is when they beat CSS again to move to 2-3 versus Regionally Ranked teams.

BLC lost the regular season series at CSS 3 games to none.

IMHO, going to 2-3 versus CSS, and winning the UMAC tourney is very good.  (2-4, not quite as good.)

The also beat Buena Vista  (#1 in the Central).. so they are already 2-3. They could move to 3-3.