BB: Pool B

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OshDude

#555
Here's what I have for in-region records among the top Pool B contenders.

1. St. John Fisher 15-3 .833
2. Ithaca 6-2 .750
3. Chapman 14-5 .737
4. Maryville 20-8 .714
5. Emory 21-11 .656
6. Piedmont 19-10 .655
7. Washington 21-12 .636
   Brandeis 14-8 .636
9. Case 17-10 .630
10. Huntingdon 14-9 .609
11. Staten Island 10-7 .588
12. Dallas 11-8 .579
13. Baruch 8-8 .500
    Chicago 5-5 .500

Not the end-all, be-all selection criterion, but it's a fairly important one.

CrashDavisD3

#556
Quote from: OshDude on April 12, 2011, 02:41:19 PM
Here's what I have for in-region records among the top Pool B contenders.

1. St. John Fisher 15-3 .833
2. Ithaca 6-2 .750
3. Chapman 14-5 .737
4. Maryville 20-8 .714
5. Emory 21-11 .656
6. Piedmont 19-10 .655
7. Washington 21-12 .636
   Brandeis 14-8 .636
9. Case 17-10 .630
10. Huntingdon 14-9 .609
11. Staten Island 10-7 .588
12. Dallas 11-8 .579
13. Baruch 8-8 .500
    Chicago 5-5 .500

Not the end-all, be-all selection criterion, but it's a fairly important one.
Nice work Oshdude. !  +1

Your right other stuff like SOS, OWP, OOWP factor in but this list lets you narrow down to top 5 fighting for those 2 precious spots this year. Could this year have the #3 or #4 Pool B fall into Pool C and get a bid ??...It has happen in the past but not in recent years.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
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Ralph Turner

#557
Ithaca and SJF should inflict some damage on each other.

I think that the East is a relatively easy region in which to get regionally ranked; one SUNYAC, maybe a SKY, maybe a LL and then 2 Pool B bids.  I am not sure whether a CUNYAC or NEAC team get some regional ranking love.

JohnnyU

Team   Win%   OWP   OOWP   SOS
44 Piedmont   0.667   0.577 (49)   0.535   0.563
64 Emory   0.676   0.554 (88)   0.551   0.553
66 Brandeis   0.625   0.557 (79)   0.543   0.552
69 Case Western Reserve   0.676   0.558 (77)   0.532   0.549
92 Washington U.   0.647   0.537 (124)   0.543   0.539
99 Chapman   0.737   0.537 (122)   0.538   0.537
119 Maryville (Tenn.)   0.714   0.528 (146)   0.544   0.533
354 St. John Fisher   0.778   0.322 (361)   0.547   0.397

Have fun picking two teams out of that group.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: JohnnyU on April 14, 2011, 09:10:56 PM
Team      Win%       OWP       OOWP      SOS
44 Piedmont   0.667   0.577 (49)   0.535   0.563
64 Emory   0.676   0.554 (88)   0.551   0.553
66 Brandeis   0.625   0.557 (79)   0.543   0.552
69 Case Western Reserve   0.676   0.558 (77)   0.532   0.549
92 Washington U.   0.647   0.537 (124)   0.543   0.539
99 Chapman   0.737   0.537 (122)   0.538   0.537
119 Maryville (Tenn.)   0.714   0.528 (146)   0.544   0.533
354 St. John Fisher   0.778   0.322 (361)   0.547   0.397

Have fun picking two teams out of that group.
I am waiting on the regional rankings.   ;D

BigPoppa

Quote from: JohnnyU on April 14, 2011, 09:10:56 PM
Team   Win%   OWP   OOWP   SOS
44 Piedmont   0.667   0.577 (49)   0.535   0.563
64 Emory   0.676   0.554 (88)   0.551   0.553
66 Brandeis   0.625   0.557 (79)   0.543   0.552
69 Case Western Reserve   0.676   0.558 (77)   0.532   0.549
92 Washington U.   0.647   0.537 (124)   0.543   0.539
99 Chapman   0.737   0.537 (122)   0.538   0.537
119 Maryville (Tenn.)   0.714   0.528 (146)   0.544   0.533
354 St. John Fisher   0.778   0.322 (361)   0.547   0.397

Have fun picking two teams out of that group.
Chapman's SoS will take a jump this weekend after 4 games with Linfield.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

forheavendial4999

Quote from: BigPoppa on April 14, 2011, 10:39:12 PM

Chapman's SoS will take a jump this weekend after 4 games with Linfield.

Maybe not as much as one might think. Linfield was like 230th in NCAA SOS according to the numbers posted on the site.

wustlfan37

I cant even keep records straight anymore - Piedmont, Maryville, Case, Emory, and WashU are fighting for Pool B, all with 22-25 wins and 10-13 losses.  Predictions?

Emory loses two to Berry College this weekend - I know Berry is a provisional D3 member, so are those regional games?  Case losing to Wooster 12-7 end of 6 in the first game of a doubleheader.
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OshDude

Quote from: wustlfan37 on April 17, 2011, 03:07:24 PM
I cant even keep records straight anymore - Piedmont, Maryville, Case, Emory, and WashU are fighting for Pool B, all with 22-25 wins and 10-13 losses.  Predictions?

Emory loses two to Berry College this weekend - I know Berry is a provisional D3 member, so are those regional games?  Case losing to Wooster 12-7 end of 6 in the first game of a doubleheader.
Check team pages for regional games... games against Berry are not in-region.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: wustlfan37 on April 17, 2011, 03:07:24 PM
I cant even keep records straight anymore - Piedmont, Maryville, Case, Emory, and WashU are fighting for Pool B, all with 22-25 wins and 10-13 losses.  Predictions?

Emory loses two to Berry College this weekend - I know Berry is a provisional D3 member, so are those regional games?  Case losing to Wooster 12-7 end of 6 in the first game of a doubleheader.
The Regional Rankings come out about April 28.  That will give us an idea of the Pool B teams that have moved up in their regions.

JohnnyU

Pool B teams with win% over .600. A lot of movement this weekend with Chapman losing 3 of 4, Dallas winning 2, Case Western Reserve splitting, and Piedmont beating Maryville.

Team    Win%        OWP (rank)   OOWP   NCAA
351 St. John Fisher   0.789   0.339 (364)   0.566   0.415
32 Piedmont   0.688   0.585 (34)   0.536   0.569
69 Emory   0.676   0.546 (105)   0.55   0.547
57 Case Western Reserve   0.667   0.560 (70)   0.538   0.553
102 Maryville (Tenn.)   0.667   0.535 (122)   0.546   0.539
108 Washington U.   0.657   0.535 (125)   0.54   0.537
29 Chapman   0.652   0.595 (27)   0.522   0.571
273 University of Dallas   0.636   0.471 (277)   0.516   0.486
353 Staten Island   0.632   0.395 (345)   0.441   0.41
200 Chicago   0.615   0.521 (163)   0.483   0.508
51 Brandeis   0.6   0.562 (65)   0.541   0.555

El Hombre

Quote from: JohnnyU on April 18, 2011, 10:11:04 AM
Pool B teams with win% over .600. A lot of movement this weekend with Chapman losing 3 of 4, Dallas winning 2, Case Western Reserve splitting, and Piedmont beating Maryville.

Team    Win%        OWP (rank)   OOWP   NCAA
351 St. John Fisher   0.789   0.339 (364)   0.566   0.415
32 Piedmont   0.688   0.585 (34)   0.536   0.569
69 Emory   0.676   0.546 (105)   0.55   0.547
57 Case Western Reserve   0.667   0.560 (70)   0.538   0.553
102 Maryville (Tenn.)   0.667   0.535 (122)   0.546   0.539
108 Washington U.   0.657   0.535 (125)   0.54   0.537
29 Chapman   0.652   0.595 (27)   0.522   0.571


273 University of Dallas   0.636   0.471 (277)   0.516   0.486
353 Staten Island   0.632   0.395 (345)   0.441   0.41
200 Chicago   0.615   0.521 (163)   0.483   0.508
51 Brandeis   0.6   0.562 (65)   0.541   0.555

JohnnyU -
Thanks for this (and all) of your updates and stats! 
On the above "ranking" of Pool B teams, is the first number next to each team their current SOS?  For example, is the #351 the SOS for St. John Fisher?

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: El Hombre on April 18, 2011, 09:15:46 PM
Quote from: JohnnyU on April 18, 2011, 10:11:04 AM
Pool B teams with win% over .600. A lot of movement this weekend with Chapman losing 3 of 4, Dallas winning 2, Case Western Reserve splitting, and Piedmont beating Maryville.

Team    Win%        OWP (rank)   OOWP   NCAA
351 St. John Fisher   0.789   0.339 (364)   0.566   0.415
32 Piedmont   0.688   0.585 (34)   0.536   0.569
69 Emory   0.676   0.546 (105)   0.55   0.547
57 Case Western Reserve   0.667   0.560 (70)   0.538   0.553
102 Maryville (Tenn.)   0.667   0.535 (122)   0.546   0.539
108 Washington U.   0.657   0.535 (125)   0.54   0.537
29 Chapman   0.652   0.595 (27)   0.522   0.571


273 University of Dallas   0.636   0.471 (277)   0.516   0.486
353 Staten Island   0.632   0.395 (345)   0.441   0.41
200 Chicago   0.615   0.521 (163)   0.483   0.508
51 Brandeis   0.6   0.562 (65)   0.541   0.555

JohnnyU -
Thanks for this (and all) of your updates and stats! 
On the above "ranking" of Pool B teams, is the first number next to each team their current SOS?  For example, is the #351 the SOS for St. John Fisher?
Only Piedmont and Chapman seem to rank high in SOS, OWP, NCAA
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

JohnnyU

RPI is .75*SOS + .25*Win%. Pool B has been much stronger this year than in the past few years. I see between 1-4 Pool C bids to go along with the Pool B bids. I'd bet the the top 6 on this list will be regionally ranked.

Team     Win%   OWP           OOWP   NCAA      RPI
28 Piedmont   0.667   0.587 (27)   0.537   0.570   0.594
26 Chapman   0.652   0.597 (19)   0.524   0.573   0.593
65 Washington U.   0.676   0.557 (74)   0.535   0.550   0.582
67 Case Western Reserve   0.676   0.554 (87)   0.541   0.550   0.582
73 Emory   0.676   0.546 (111)   0.552   0.548   0.580
83 Maryville (Tenn.)   0.677   0.540 (118)   0.547   0.542   0.576
40 Brandeis   0.615   0.571 (45)   0.543   0.562   0.575
34 Huntingdon   0.577   0.578 (35)   0.546   0.567   0.570
353 St. John Fisher   0.789   0.336 (367)   0.563   0.412   0.506

BigPoppa

WashU will be in a solid spot in Central based on their SoS. The NCAA has made it clear in the poast few seasons that SoS is a huge factor in the rankings (St. Norbert- 2009 and Carthage-2010). If this holds true, WashU will get a bump from their SoS when the rankings come out next week.

I see:
1. Carthage
2. Augustana
3. WashU
4-7. IWU/Coe/Simpson/North Park

Of course, this will ALL change after the weekend series ahead of us.

Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.