BB: Pool B

[BigPoppa]

Your forgot Emory at 21-10. They'd likely get a Pool B before Chapman (if even eligible)

He forgot a lot of teams.I'll make a board survivor bet with anyone here that Chapman is not in a regional. I reserve the right to waive the payoff if I actually like having that person around.

I only listed Emory as I felt they were the only other Pool B team worth considering.

[forheavendial4999]

Your forgot Emory at 21-10. They'd likely get a Pool B before Chapman (if even eligible)

He forgot a lot of teams.I'll make a board survivor bet with anyone here that Chapman is not in a regional. I reserve the right to waive the payoff if I actually like having that person around.

I only listed Emory as I felt they were the only other Pool B team worth considering.

I think Ithaca's in the running as well.

[BigPoppa]

Your forgot Emory at 21-10. They'd likely get a Pool B before Chapman (if even eligible)

He forgot a lot of teams.I'll make a board survivor bet with anyone here that Chapman is not in a regional. I reserve the right to waive the payoff if I actually like having that person around.

I only listed Emory as I felt they were the only other Pool B team worth considering.

I think Ithaca's in the running as well.

True... I thought they were listed? My bad. 18-4 for the Bombers is a solid record.

[dahlby]

Chapman is a member of the SCIAC and therefore not eligible for a Pool B bid. But, as a member of the SCIAC, those conference rules prohibit Chapman from receiving the conference auto-bid, as part of their probationary year. Chapman will be eligible for the auto-bid(s) starting in the fall of '12.

The probationary period is/was a SCIAC policy, and has nothing to do with the NCAA. All the NCAA sees is that Chapman is a member of the SCIAC and therefore not eligible for  a Pool B. Chapman would have fallen to a Pool C bid, but that is way out of reach now.

I hope this clears up the Chapman questions.

[Ralph Turner]

Pool B is set aside for conferences that do not have the AQ.

Next year the Southern Athletic Association (SAA) will be in Pool B for 2 seasons.

The other Pool B conferences include the Empire 8, the CUNYAC and the UAA. Those conferences provide 15 more teams to Pool B.

[ADL70]

The 2012 NCAA handbook states that there will be 2 "Pool B" teams (and 16 Pool C).

Based on the RPI ratings (calculated by Johnny U), the eligible Pool B teams are currently ranked as follows:

Win%   OWP   OOWP   SOS     RPI   Rank   School        In-Region   W   L
0.808   0.676   0.501   0.618   0.665    1     Ithaca   NY   10   2
0.875   0.524   0.548   0.532   0.617    2     Washington U.        21   3
0.455   0.642   0.491   0.592   0.558    3     Chapman   W   10   12
0.704   0.503   0.465   0.490   0.544    4     Emory   S   19   8
0.655   0.538   0.440   0.505   0.543    5     Piedmont   S   19   10
0.650   0.502   0.507   0.504   0.540    6     Case Western Reserve   ME   19   10
0.684   0.473   0.523   0.490   0.538    7     St. John Fisher   NY   13   6

CWRU is now 22-12 with a win today over now 24-8 B-W.  Spartans are 2-0 against the Yellow Jackets and also have a win against WUStL.  They have four games remaining against a couple of .500 teams and a big four game series this weekend against 27-5 DePauw.  I think they will need to go 6-2 or better in those eight remaining games to stay in the B/C hunt.

Last season the Spartans made the post-season thru C at 30-13.

[dahlby]

Chapman is not eligible for a Pool B bid...even if their record was better.

[CrashDavisD3]

Chapman is not eligible for a Pool B bid...even if their record was better.

It makes sense and I am sure everyone is correct. Chapmans 2012 record makes it a non issue for Pool C or B.

BUT once again a NCAA publication has major errors in it and it lists them Pool B for 2012. Too bad the NCAA does not have their publications reviewed for errors before it publishes them. NCAA becomes less transparent and more secretive each year.

[Ralph Turner]

Chapman is not eligible for a Pool B bid...even if their record was better.

It makes sense and I am sure everyone is correct. Chapmans 2012 record makes it a non issue for Pool C or B.

BUT once again a NCAA publication has major errors in it and it lists them Pool B for 2012. Too bad the NCAA does not have their publications reviewed for errors before it publishes them. NCAA becomes less transparent and more secretive each year.

It is not because the fans at D3baseball.com/d3sports.com haven't offered to proofread the documents before their release to reconcile the information and to provide the most accurate record for archival sake.

[CrashDavisD3]

Chapman is not eligible for a Pool B bid...even if their record was better.

It makes sense and I am sure everyone is correct. Chapmans 2012 record makes it a non issue for Pool C or B.

BUT once again a NCAA publication has major errors in it and it lists them Pool B for 2012. Too bad the NCAA does not have their publications reviewed for errors before it publishes them. NCAA becomes less transparent and more secretive each year.

It is not because the fans at D3baseball.com/d3sports.com haven't offered to proofread the documents before their release to reconcile the information and to provide the most accurate record for archival sake.

At times I think we know more than the NCAA. Ralph you would a great proof reader for the NCAA as would several others on this board that have a passion for D3 Baseball.

[ADL70]

The 2012 NCAA handbook states that there will be 2 "Pool B" teams (and 16 Pool C).

Based on the RPI ratings (calculated by Johnny U), the eligible Pool B teams are currently ranked as follows:

Win%   OWP   OOWP   SOS     RPI   Rank   School        In-Region   W   L
0.808   0.676   0.501   0.618   0.665    1     Ithaca   NY   10   2
0.875   0.524   0.548   0.532   0.617    2     Washington U.        21   3
0.455   0.642   0.491   0.592   0.558    3     Chapman   W   10   12
0.704   0.503   0.465   0.490   0.544    4     Emory   S   19   8
0.655   0.538   0.440   0.505   0.543    5     Piedmont   S   19   10
0.650   0.502   0.507   0.504   0.540    6     Case Western Reserve   ME   19   10
0.684   0.473   0.523   0.490   0.538    7     St. John Fisher   NY   13   6

CWRU is now 22-12 with a win today over now 24-8 B-W.  Spartans are 2-0 against the Yellow Jackets and also have a win against WUStL.  They have four games remaining against a couple of .500 teams and a big four game series this weekend against 27-5 DePauw.  I think they will need to go 6-2 or better in those eight remaining games to stay in the B/C hunt.

Last season the Spartans made the post-season thru C at 30-13.

CWRU [25-14-1] beat Muskingum and split the four game series with DePaw [DePauw scored the most runs 17-15].   Spartans need to sweep remaining three games with John Carroll which split a DH on Sunday v Marietta, losing 3-2 in 10 and winning 8-2.

[JohnnyU]

I think it's a 4 team race for Pool B:

Win%   OWP   OOWP   SOS   RPI   Team   Conf   W   L   T
0.675   0.629   0.517   0.592   0.613   Ithaca   E8   13   6   1
0.759   0.574   0.533   0.561   0.610   Washington U.   UAA   22   7   0
0.640   0.609   0.545   0.588   0.601   Chicago   IND   16   9   0
0.741   0.523   0.534   0.526   0.580   St. John Fisher   E8   20   7   0

The numbers are very close. For head-to-head Chicago is 3-1 against Washington U. and St. John Fisher is 3-3 against Ithaca. Should be a good race.

Also, I think all four of these will be selected as either Pool B or C.

[EttaFan1]

The 2012 NCAA handbook states that there will be 2 "Pool B" teams (and 16 Pool C).

Based on the RPI ratings (calculated by Johnny U), the eligible Pool B teams are currently ranked as follows:

Win%   OWP   OOWP   SOS     RPI   Rank   School        In-Region   W   L
0.808   0.676   0.501   0.618   0.665    1     Ithaca   NY   10   2
0.875   0.524   0.548   0.532   0.617    2     Washington U.        21   3
0.455   0.642   0.491   0.592   0.558    3     Chapman   W   10   12
0.704   0.503   0.465   0.490   0.544    4     Emory   S   19   8
0.655   0.538   0.440   0.505   0.543    5     Piedmont   S   19   10
0.650   0.502   0.507   0.504   0.540    6     Case Western Reserve   ME   19   10
0.684   0.473   0.523   0.490   0.538    7     St. John Fisher   NY   13   6

CWRU is now 22-12 with a win today over now 24-8 B-W.  Spartans are 2-0 against the Yellow Jackets and also have a win against WUStL.  They have four games remaining against a couple of .500 teams and a big four game series this weekend against 27-5 DePauw.  I think they will need to go 6-2 or better in those eight remaining games to stay in the B/C hunt.

Last season the Spartans made the post-season thru C at 30-13.

CWRU [25-14-1] beat Muskingum and split the four game series with DePaw [DePauw scored the most runs 17-15].   Spartans need to sweep remaining three games with John Carroll which split a DH on Sunday v Marietta, losing 3-2 in 10 and winning 8-2.

CWRU's RPI of .540 would be 9th best in the Mideast region and considerably down the list (outside of the top 30 on the list in the Pool C prediction thread last week).  Sweeping three games from JCU would be helpful, but the Streaks are on somewhat of a hot streak. 

[CrashDavisD3]

The 2012 NCAA handbook states that there will be 2 "Pool B" teams (and 16 Pool C).

Based on the RPI ratings (calculated by Johnny U), the eligible Pool B teams are currently ranked as follows:

Win%   OWP   OOWP   SOS     RPI   Rank   School        In-Region   W   L
0.808   0.676   0.501   0.618   0.665    1     Ithaca   NY   10   2
0.875   0.524   0.548   0.532   0.617    2     Washington U.        21   3
0.455   0.642   0.491   0.592   0.558    3     Chapman   W   10   12
0.704   0.503   0.465   0.490   0.544    4     Emory   S   19   8
0.655   0.538   0.440   0.505   0.543    5     Piedmont   S   19   10
0.650   0.502   0.507   0.504   0.540    6     Case Western Reserve   ME   19   10
0.684   0.473   0.523   0.490   0.538    7     St. John Fisher   NY   13   6

Chapman will not make it in as a Pool B in 2012 with its record BUT Here is their top 4 pitchers ERA by innings pitched. Can you believe they have a losing record with these ERA's. Bad defense and not scoring enough runs will do it
1.03 - 79 IP
2.35 - 72 IP
1.61 - 44 IP
2.89 - 27 IP

[El Hombre]

I think it's a 4 team race for Pool B:

Win%   OWP   OOWP   SOS   RPI   Team   Conf   W   L   T
0.675   0.629   0.517   0.592   0.613   Ithaca   E8   13   6   1
0.759   0.574   0.533   0.561   0.610   Washington U.   UAA   22   7   0
0.640   0.609   0.545   0.588   0.601   Chicago   IND   16   9   0
0.741   0.523   0.534   0.526   0.580   St. John Fisher   E8   20   7   0

The numbers are very close. For head-to-head Chicago is 3-1 against Washington U. and St. John Fisher is 3-3 against Ithaca. Should be a good race.

Also, I think all four of these will be selected as either Pool B or C.

JohnnyU -
The last West Region ranking you had for Pool B included Chapman (ranked third - see below).  Do you have an updated RPI ranking that includes Chapman?  It would be interesting to see where they would rank now given their SOS and opportunity to finish 19 - 14 in the West Region.  They received bids in the past with similar "in-region" winning percentages (based on a strong SOS I assume).


Previous RPI Rankings - West Region (dated April 14): 

Win%   OWP   OOWP   SOS     RPI   Rank   School        In-Region   W   L
0.808   0.676   0.501   0.618   0.665    1     Ithaca   NY   10   2
0.875   0.524   0.548   0.532   0.617    2     Washington U.        21   3
0.455   0.642   0.491   0.592   0.558    3     Chapman   W   10   12
0.704   0.503   0.465   0.490   0.544    4     Emory   S   19   8
0.655   0.538   0.440   0.505   0.543    5     Piedmont   S   19   10
0.650   0.502   0.507   0.504   0.540    6     Case Western Reserve   ME   19   10
0.684   0.473   0.523   0.490   0.538    7     St. John Fisher   NY   13   6