BB: Regionals (West) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011

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utilitycat17

Quote from: LA Mike on May 19, 2009, 05:39:15 PM
The NAIA and Independent teams recruit and provide scholarship assistance. (ie Chapman) and that is why they are not in a conference - they refuse to give that advantage up.  The Chapman program used to play a D-2 schedule which allows recruiting and scholarships, but they are not now.

LA Mike,

Obviously you don't have a clue what you are talking about.  Everyone looks at Chapman's Baseball program and says "look how great they are, they're so lucky to be an independent."  Chapman's athletic department tries, in vein, every year to get into the SCIAC.  Chapman has self-imposed all of the same rules and regulations the SCIAC has in order to show they are on a level playing ground with them in an attempt to gain admittance, and it doesn't work.  The baseball program may have benefitted this year from getting a pool B bid into the playoffs, but I guarantee you Chapman would join the SCIAC in a heartbeat if they were given the opportunity.  The only difference between Chapman and most of the SCIAC is the academic standards, and the standards have gone up dramatically at Chapman over the last 10 years.  Were not talking about some state school that has no admissions standards.  It has become increasingly difficult even for Chapman to recruit talented players who do not make the "grade."

In the mid 90s, Chapman was a Division 1 program for a few years.  They had full scholarships just like any other D1 program.  However, they added football and moved to D3.  They have been D3, and played a D3 schedule, for about 15 years now. 

baseballroxmysox

Quote from: wildcat11 on May 18, 2009, 12:38:28 PM
Just curious to see how well the regional was hosted by Linfield?  Good? Bad?  Can people see Linfield hosting another regional down the road?

Linfield did an outstanding job hosting the tournament.  The staff was in abundance and friendly.  They even swept the bleachers between each game. 
The home town crowd had the stands full to cheer George Fox  on and they were all friendly. 

And it was also nice that the Linfield "balcony crowd" watched the games and were all rooting for CHAPMAN ;D They even came down to the bus after Chapman beat Pomona.

baseballroxmysox

QuoteChapman's athletic department tries, in vein, every year to get into the SCIAC.  Chapman has self-imposed all of the same rules and regulations the SCIAC has in order to show they are on a level playing ground with them in an attempt to gain admittance, and it doesn't work.  The baseball program may have benefitted this year from getting a pool B bid into the playoffs, but I guarantee you Chapman would join the SCIAC in a heartbeat if they were given the opportunity.  The only difference between Chapman and most of the SCIAC is the academic standards, and the standards have gone up dramatically at Chapman over the last 10 years.

Why will the SCIAC not let Chapman in?? 

Pat Coleman

Quote from: LA Mike on May 19, 2009, 05:39:15 PM
4.  You are not allowed to "recruit" in D-3 baseball.

Since when? Or am I misunderstanding what you're trying to get at?
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CrashDavisD3

#559
Chapman was in the SCIAC for a few years in the early 50's not
sure what happen for them to leave.

The following is a chronology of the membership changes over the years: 1915  Caltech, Occidental, Pomona, Redlands and Whittier found SCIAC 
1920  UCLA joins (then known as the Southern Branch of the University of California) 
1926  La Verne College and San Diego State Teachers College join 
1927  UCLA leaves 
1931  UC Santa Barbara joins (then known as Santa Barbara State Teachers College) 
1934  Caltech and Pomona leave 
1938  UC Santa Barbara and La Verne leave; Caltech and Pomona rejoin 
1939  San Diego State leaves 
1943  Whittier leaves 
1946  Whittier rejoins 
1947  Pomona combines with Claremont Men's College for athletics (Pomona-Claremont) 
1950  Chapman College as an associate in baseball, basketball and tennis 
1952  Chapman's association ends 

1958  Claremont combines with Harvey Mudd College for athletics (Claremont-Mudd) [they are ineligible for SCIAC titles this year] 
1971  La Verne rejoins; Pomona combines with Pitzer College for athletics (Pomona-Pitzer) 
1976  Claremont-Mudd combines with Scripps College for athletics (Claremont-Mudd-Scripps) 
1991  California Lutheran University joins [ineligible for football title in 1991] 
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
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NWdad

Quote from: infielddad on May 19, 2009, 12:43:32 AM
As I posted before, Cavan is the only player from outside Southern Ca to make any significant contribution at Chapman and he came because Trinity found him in Northern CA and he couldn't surf in TX. 


I'm not sure this claim is accurate. Saw a kid from Oregon toss two wins and get the tournament team nod at West Regional. Don't know how he got out of Oregon, but it is Chapman's gain. Also noticed two other kids from Oregon on their roster who could be up-n-comers. I think a team that spends every late May in Wisconsin starts drawing attention from other parts. A good program starts to sell itself, surf or no surf. A few years back, everyone was saying our OSU Beavers couldn't attract quality players to the rainy NW. That's no longer the case after two CWS crowns.

infielddad

NWDad.
Hallebaseball already posted about 3-4 others in addition to Cavan covering the last several years.  With your name, I get the impression you might have some relationship to the Oregon kids.  If so and if they were first identified and recruited by Chapman, as opposed to them contacting Chapman, then I was certainly off base in terms of the current roster.
With that said, I doubt Chapman will need to recruit like Oregon St.  One reason Casey is now looking outside Oregon is U of O starting baseball, isn't it?
The only point I am making and will continue to make is that Chapman is in the hot bed of baseball talent in our Country.  If you contrast their roster with Pomona Pitzer and/or Hendrix, you see the focus of the recruiting.  Hendrix had to come to Southern Ca. to find players to add the quality and depth to rebuild their program.
PP recruits nationally and has to do so because of its academic requirements.
Maybe you will be right and Chapman will start to recruit outside of Orange County and Southern Ca.
Since I have followed them beginning in 2002 to the present, their roster and recruiting has been local.  They get top talent by doing that.  They prepare and coach their players well by doing that.
They win by doing that.
I don't see them changing but it sure helps when they get top players from other areas based on their reputation.

LA Mike

All West Region Teams -- From University of Redlands (SCIAC) website-- thank you !!

May 20, 2009

Bulldog Baseball's Nicholson Selected to ABCA-Rawlings All-West Region Third Team

Senior pitcher Nolan Nicholson (Fullerton, CA) capped off a remarkable collegiate career with the University of Redlands baseball program, earning a spot on the American Baseball Coaches Association (ABCA)-Rawlings All-West Region Third Team, as announced by the ABCA on Tuesday.

Nicholson (10-2) was the No. 1 starter in the Bulldog rotation all season and defeated two teams that advanced to the NCAA Division III College World Series (No. 9 Chapman University and No. 2 Kean University). In 89.1 innings of work, he struck out 45 batters while maintaining a 3.83 ERA, allowing as many earned runs as he did walks (38). Among Redlands pitchers who tossed more than 15 innings, he held the opposition to a team-low .269 batting average. Notably, Nicholson held the D3baseball.com Player of the Year, Pomona-Pitzer Colleges' Drew Hedman, hitless, forcing him out twice while walking him once.

This marks the second time that he has gained ABCA-Rawlings All-Region honors as he earned a spot on the All-West Region Second Team in 2008. Nicholson's other laurels include two ESPN The Magazine/College Sports Information Directors of America (CoSIDA) Academic All-District First-Team selections (2008, 2009), one First-Team All-Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (SCIAC) accolade (2008) and two Second-Team All-SCIAC nods (2006, 2009).

Redlands (25-15, 14-7 SCIAC) finished out the regular season at third in the SCIAC and won more than 20 games for the fifth straight season.

The following is a list of all those chosen to the three ABCA-Rawlings All-West Region Teams:

(*denotes West Region Player of the Year; #denotes West Region Pitcher of the Year)

First Team:
Reggie Dixon (DH)- Hardin-Simmons University (TX)
Mark Rockey (C)- University of Puget Sound (WA)
*Drew Hedman (1B)- Pomona-Pitzer Colleges
Bo Thunell (2B)- George Fox University (OR)
Tre Lips (3B)- McMurry University (TX)
Javier Arrieta (SS)- Sul Ross State University (TX)
Matt Wyckoff (OF)- George Fox University (OR)
Bo Bell (OF)- Mississippi College
Jared Smith (OF)- University of Texas at Dallas
John Semel (UT)- Chapman University

#Brett Hinson (P)- Mississippi College
Chase Tigert (P)- Cal Lutheran University
Brad Orosey (P)- Texas Lutheran University
John Semel (UT)- Chapman University

Second Team:
Jordan Ott (DH)- Cal Lutheran University
J.T. Armstrong (C)- Hardin-Simmons University (TX)
Cole Bixenman (C)- Linfield College (OR)
Kyle Stalker (1B)- Willamette University (OR)
Brock Lemire (2B)- University of Texas at Tyler
Tristan Phillips (3B)- Chapman University
Brandon Huerta (SS)- Pomona-Pitzer Colleges
Joseph Villegas (OF)- University of Mary Hardin-Baylor (TX)
Jake Mullin (OF)- McMurry University (TX)
Jordan Pennington (OF)- Trinity University (TX)
Tom Williams (OF)- Concordia University (TX)
Jeremy Macklin (UT)- Texas Lutheran University

Reese McCulley (P)- Linfield College (OR)
Robert Bleeker (P)- Pacific Lutheran University (WA)
David Colvin (P)- Pomona-Pitzer Colleges
Brett Holland (P)- University of Texas at Tyler
Michael Johnson (P)- Concordia University (TX)
Jeremy Macklin (UT)- Texas Lutheran University

Third Team:
Jared Hood (DH)- University of Texas at Tyler
Kyle Felix (C)- Trinity University (TX)
Adam Hudec (C)- University of Texas at Dallas
Zach Atkins (1B)- University of Dallas (TX)
James Kang (2B)- Pomona-Pitzer
Ben Shively (3B)- Pacific Lutheran University (WA)
Jon-Michael Hattabaugh (3B)- University of La Verne
Jason Jebbia (SS)- Occidental College
Chad Deleiden (SS)- University of Texas at Tyler
Kyle Harvey (OF)- Texas Lutheran University
Jeremy Harding (OF)- University of Texas at Tyler
Daniel Ward (OF)- Hendrix College (AR)

Wayde Kitchens (P)- Chapman University
Beau Ziegler (P)- University of Texas at Tyler
Philip Carkhuff (P)- University of Dallas (TX)
Nolan Nicholson (P)- University of Redlands
Blake Booher (P)- University of Texas at Tyler
Chad Jones (P)- George Fox University (OR)

LA Mike

d3ball32

im confused on how cody ross is not on this list but was a 2nd team ABCA all american?

anyone know?

LA Mike

The ABCA is a Coaches Selection and Poll.

The D3 is a Writers and Media Selection and Poll.

Different eyes I guess...........
LA Mike

d3ball32

all-region teams are abca as well as the abca all-american team. Thus my confusion. He was 2nd team all american (abca) but not listed in this all region list, even though you have to be first team all region in order to be considered for all-american.

RedlandsAsstSID

d3ball32,

You are correct, you have to be ABCA All-Region to be an ABCA All-American. Much apologies for the omission on my part; Ross was on the first team. Below is a link to the updated release.

http://goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/news/05_20_09_BSB_All_Region

Thanks for keeping me honest!

Ralph Turner

Quote from: RedlandsAsstSID on May 23, 2009, 11:12:53 AM
d3ball32,

You are correct, you have to be ABCA All-Region to be an ABCA All-American. Much apologies for the omission on my part; Ross was on the first team. Below is a link to the updated release.

http://goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/news/05_20_09_BSB_All_Region

Thanks for keeping me honest!
Honest?   ???   I look at it more like just standard proofreading!  No malice. No foul!   ;)

We really appreciate any SIDs that provide content, especially valuable content such as that.  If there is something such as a fan's website, these are they.

+1, Redlands SID.  Thanks for all that you do.

alldone

will there be a 2009 all west gold glove team announcement forthcoming ??

CrashDavisD3

Any news yet on the site for 2010 for the West Region ?

Past recent sites include Chapman in CA, McMurry in TX and Linfield in OR.

Will it be a new site or will go back to one of these 3 ?

Many sites would be great venues but because of no lights, dont have a chance of hosting.

With 40 teams in the West Region ? How many teams will get be going to the 1st round of the dance ?  Will this be the year the ASC get 2 teams in like SCIAC did last year ?

Any early season predictions on who might make it to the West Regional ?
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html