BB: Regionals (West) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011

[Browneagle64]

Care to tell us where you got this info MCM gansta?? Is this correct Ralph or is this another premature estimation from us amatuers?

1 Chapman
2 george fox
3 mcmurry
4 cal east bay
5 trinity (tx)
6 la verne

first game is at noon on wed with chapman playing la vern
3:30 gfx and trinity
7 mcm play cal est bay

[Browneagle64]

Oops, never mind that i had asked that question. I found McMurry's site stating what M-gansta had already pointed out (thanks. M-G):

  http://athletics.mcm.edu/Sports/baseball/2008/08baseballregional.asp             

Can't believe that the leo's and panthers would be paired so early in the tourney. It should be another good game between both ball clubs, as the Leo's where the only team that i know of that played the panthers well during the season before falling victims to Coach T and co. plans. Best of luck to the Leo's and SCIAC co champs at this big dance.

[BigPoppa]

I think California Div 3 players get quaility non scholorship players. If im correct, Junior Colleges in California do not offer athletic scholorships unlike Texas. COrrect me if im wrong, but thats how it was a few years back. Also is Chapman a state school or private?

Though Chapman is private and has no scholarships, they have an inceredible finlancial aid package that really helps them compete. Being a former college head coach in the area at a school that offered scholarships, I often lost players that I offered partial scholarships to as Chapman was cheaper for them. We were both comparable in tuition at the time (mid to high $20,000). Chapman does a great job with financial aid and competes on the recruiting level with many of the local scholarship schools and the SCIAC.

[Gray Fox]

Maybe that is one of the reasons that Chapman isn't in the SCIAC.

[gatekeper43]

I think California Div 3 players get quaility non scholorship players. If im correct, Junior Colleges in California do not offer athletic scholorships unlike Texas. COrrect me if im wrong, but thats how it was a few years back. Also is Chapman a state school or private?

Though Chapman is private and has no scholarships, they have an inceredible finlancial aid package that really helps them compete. Being a former college head coach in the area at a school that offered scholarships, I often lost players that I offered partial scholarships to as Chapman was cheaper for them. We were both comparable in tuition at the time (mid to high $20,000). Chapman does a great job with financial aid and competes on the recruiting level with many of the local scholarship schools and the SCIAC.

Yes they have financial aid packges but for most of the kids at Chapman they have acheived scholarships which are only granted for acedemics at the DIII level. This tells me that the kids that have recieved scholarships at whatever school they attend whether they are at Chapman or at ULV they are there because of grades. Unlike the kids that go to any D2 or D1 and recieve 4year full ride scholarships for whatever sport they are playing, well correct me if I am wrong but there is only .001% of the kids go any further than college and .0001% of the kids get a lucrative contract to play ball.
   This tells me that our kids that play ball at the DIII level achieve life long lessons as well as get ther degree's to go into life one step ahead. Also they are playing the game for the pure  love of the game!

[Blackcat00]

That is a very great point gatekeeper. I was just curious if the junior colleges still didnt give scholorships in Cali, and the reasoning why.

[ILVBB]

Blackcat:

California JC's do not give scholarships. However, the fees are so negligible that it seldom an issue. There are fee waivers for anyone with need. The cost for attending a JC, including books is generally less than $1k.

[Jack Parkman]

JC's in CA are dirt cheap, enough said.

I was checking out all of the West region teams web-pages today and came across the news that CSU-East Bay is moving to Div-II.  If I read this release correctly they would be D-III for the 2008-2009 school year then move up.  What does this do to their status as a D-III member trying to get into the playoffs next year?  I think this really helps some but really screws a lot of schools too.
Chapman has always relied on East Bay for 3-5 games a year.  Some of the SCIAC and some of the NWC schools play them as well.  This is going to change the scheduling of a lot of these teams.  I believe La Sierra is a new D-III but playing a team with 1 win a year is not going to help anyone out.  It is a good situation for East Bay since a ton of their games were against non D-III teams.

This is to add to the post the other day about teams going to Minnesotta to play.  I think the SCIAC, ASC, SCAC and NWC should come up with a huge "festival" and play 4 games against teams from out of their conference.  I think it was 2 years ago when the SCIAC sent 4 teams to Arizona and the NWC sent 4 as well.  Each team played 4 games but none were against their own conference.  I think the NWC's scheduling makes this really tough now with 32 conference games.
The Cal Classic and the Cal invite are bad because SCIAC teams are being put against each other and end up playing a lot of out-of-region teams.

Sorry if none of that made sense, I need coffee  

[Ralph Turner]

JC's in CA are dirt cheap, enough said.

I was checking out all of the West region teams web-pages today and came across the news that CSU-East Bay is moving to Div-II.  If I read this release correctly they would be D-III for the 2008-2009 school year then move up.  What does this do to their status as a D-III member trying to get into the playoffs next year?  I think this really helps some but really screws a lot of schools too.
Chapman has always relied on East Bay for 3-5 games a year.  Some of the SCIAC and some of the NWC schools play them as well.  This is going to change the scheduling of a lot of these teams.  I believe La Sierra is a new D-III but playing a team with 1 win a year is not going to help anyone out.  It is a good situation for East Bay since a ton of their games were against non D-III teams.

This is to add to the post the other day about teams going to Minnesota to play.  I think the SCIAC, ASC, SCAC and NWC should come up with a huge "festival" and play 4 games against teams from out of their conference.  I think it was 2 years ago when the SCIAC sent 4 teams to Arizona and the NWC sent 4 as well.  Each team played 4 games but none were against their own conference.  I think the NWC's scheduling makes this really tough now with 32 conference games.
The Cal Classic and the Cal invite are bad because SCIAC teams are being put against each other and end up playing a lot of out-of-region teams.

Sorry if none of that made sense, I need coffee  

Jack, it made lots of sense.

CSU-EB can compete as a D-III if they follow the guidelines in that exploratory year. I can understand the move from economic standpoints.  D-II can use the schools.

As for D-III teams on the West Coast, maybe it makes it harder for Chapman to rack up wins against a quality D-III program, which CSU-EB has been.

LaSierra games will count when they are in year-3 and year-4 of provisional status.

Yes, it does make sense to schedule games.  McMurry has gone to Hawaii for West Region games.  They have an "annual" series with Chapman.  They played GFU this season.

TLU went to southern California this year.

[CUAfan]

Where did they send Linfield? I'd look it up online but I can't get d3baseball.com up at work.

[Ron Boerger]

Where did they send Linfield? I'd look it up online but I can't get d3baseball.com up at work.

Northwest Conference champion Linfield is the No. 5 seed in the NCAA Division III Central Regional and will play Wisconsin-Stevens Point Wednesday in an opening round game.

http://www.linfield.edu/sports/

[WLCALUM83]

What kind of expectations are there for McMurry in this regional?

[Browneagle64]

That they better do well and represent their univeristy at this tourney or their most Famous Alumni: Ralph Turner may lose his cool.  Haha. Just kidding, I am sure that there is very big expecations for McMurry being that they are the hosting team of the tourney.

Can't wait for Wednesday's tip off between the SCIAC co-champs and the Leo's of La Verne. 

[tloc14]

The 4-team extravaganza sounds like a good idea.  Im pretty friendly with the coaching staff at UTT and they have been toying with that idea as well.  Vilade has contacts in Frisco since he is the summer hitting coach for the Roughriders.  They have been toying with the idea of having an "extravaganza" in dallas with some other schools in the conference.  Teams from outside the conf (i assume cali teams and other highly ranked teams within the region) could fly in to Frisco and a weekend 8-team tourney played there.  Would be kinda similar to what is done in Abeline except the TX schools within the ASC would not play each other.

An interesting idea anyhow.   And yeah, McM needs to do well this regional.  The ASC desperately needs the good recognition.

[utilitycat17]

If it's not too much trouble, could someone please give periodic updates on today's games.  I am able to view the boards only through my phone.  Im sitting through a seminar today, and would love to follow the action.