BB: Regionals (West) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011

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Pat Coleman

Quote from: dp643 on May 19, 2010, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 19, 2010, 12:59:44 PM
Quote from: dp643 on May 19, 2010, 10:00:47 AM
Yes but all of the other regionals dont have the option to play in California or Arizona like we do. The CHANCE for it to be in the 40's and raining for the regional alone would make me put it in another option.

I am not aware of any Division III schools in Arizona.

The NWC should have its chance to host this regional as often as Texas and SoCal do. If you want to host, well, by all means, put together a better bid.

Im sure other schools did put in a bid. There are venues in Arizona that could host (which was the point). And there are DIII schools in California last I checked.

No D-III schools in Arizona, though. They're not going to let a school host with a facility that's hundreds of miles away from campus.

My point is you have to let all three areas have chances to host. Apparently Linfield put the best bid in. And if you say you're rolling the dice by putting it there two years in a row, that's bull. It's no more likely to rain in 2010 than in 2011 or 2012 or 2009.

Read what I actually said: Put together *a better bid* if you want to host it.
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dp643

Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 19, 2010, 03:01:22 PM
Quote from: dp643 on May 19, 2010, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 19, 2010, 12:59:44 PM
Quote from: dp643 on May 19, 2010, 10:00:47 AM
Yes but all of the other regionals dont have the option to play in California or Arizona like we do. The CHANCE for it to be in the 40's and raining for the regional alone would make me put it in another option.

I am not aware of any Division III schools in Arizona.

The NWC should have its chance to host this regional as often as Texas and SoCal do. If you want to host, well, by all means, put together a better bid.

Im sure other schools did put in a bid. There are venues in Arizona that could host (which was the point). And there are DIII schools in California last I checked.

No D-III schools in Arizona, though. They're not going to let a school host with a facility that's hundreds of miles away from campus.

My point is you have to let all three areas have chances to host. Apparently Linfield put the best bid in. And if you say you're rolling the dice by putting it there two years in a row, that's bull. It's no more likely to rain in 2010 than in 2011 or 2012 or 2009.

Read what I actually said: Put together *a better bid* if you want to host it.

When you put it in a location that has a better chance for rain two years in a row, you are rolling the dice.....period.  Thats not bull. Its just a shame that we have known about this weather for 2 weeks now...and instead of playing in 69 degrees and 6 MPH wind...we are going to let the conditions play more of a factor in who wins or losses. The 10 day forecast sure does look pretty in Orange, CA right now.

TexasBB

I think it is going to be a washout today and the extended forecast does not look good until Saturday when the probability of rain drops to only 30%.  With extended rain the issue will be how well the outfield drains. The infield will be covered and so it should be fine. But unless the field drains well the outfield could be a problem.  The forecast is down to 60% rain Thursday but back to 70% on Friday. No time for the field to dry.

Looks to me like the tournment will all have to played primarily on saturday and sunday if the field conditions allow.  They may extend if into monday if that is allowed by the NCAA.

dp643

Quote from: TexasBB on May 19, 2010, 03:18:22 PM
I think it is going to be a washout today and the extended forecast does not look good until Saturday when the probability of rain drops to only 30%.  With extended rain the issue will be how well the outfield drains. The infield will be covered and so it should be fine. But unless the field drains well the outfield could be a problem.  The forecast is down to 60% rain Thursday but back to 70% on Friday. No time for the field to dry.

Looks to me like the tournment will all have to played primarily on saturday and sunday if the field conditions allow.  They may extend if into monday if that is allowed by the NCAA.

Really irks me that we have known about this weather for a while and nothing was done to possibly change venues. I know a 2 week out forecast isnt that accurate, but still this is extremely unfortunate

Bmo

Looks like they are pulling off the tarp.  First couple innings will be dicey, but it should clear up a little in an hour or so.

BigPoppa

Weather will test the mental side of the game more than the physical side today. How focused can guys stay while waiting? It is the key to the regional.
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frank_ezelle

They are playing and Trinity got the first batter on with a walk.  The Trinity webcast is working and the weather looks terrible--but they are playing and that's a plus.
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dahlby

If a D3 school wants to host and historically has weather that can/would/could affect the outcome of the game by forcing multiple games in a day, rain delays, slippery conditions that cause injuries, and the like, then that school should build a covered facility.

It is an absolute shame for the NCAA to knowingly allow this happen. There are plenty of schools throughout the region with historically good weather that could host. Maybe it was the best bid at the time, but extensive rain delays could cost more in the long run.

It will be interesting to see how the bids go next year, as I understand that the Linfield bid was for 2 years.

I am hoping the weather is not a factor.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: dp643 on May 19, 2010, 03:23:09 PM
Quote from: TexasBB on May 19, 2010, 03:18:22 PM
I think it is going to be a washout today and the extended forecast does not look good until Saturday when the probability of rain drops to only 30%.  With extended rain the issue will be how well the outfield drains. The infield will be covered and so it should be fine. But unless the field drains well the outfield could be a problem.  The forecast is down to 60% rain Thursday but back to 70% on Friday. No time for the field to dry.

Looks to me like the tournment will all have to played primarily on saturday and sunday if the field conditions allow.  They may extend if into monday if that is allowed by the NCAA.

Really irks me that we have known about this weather for a while and nothing was done to possibly change venues. I know a 2 week out forecast isnt that accurate, but still this is extremely unfortunate

I can tell you don't like it, but honestly, they weren't going to strip Linfield of hosting after awarding it to them.

I don't believe mandating a covered facility to play tournament games in the Pacific Northwest is a reasonable demand for the NCAA to make on any member school, especially one in Division III. You guys on the West Coast get screwed enough by the NCAA as it is come playoff time -- this would just be one more way to screw a part of the country that deserves its turn to host.

Two years in NWC country, two years in ASC/SCAC land and two years in SoCal seems like a reasonable rotation to me.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

dahlby

I did not imply that the NCAA should have changed the location after the bid was awarded. I am saying that the weather factor should be considered before awarding a bid.

Yes, I am a west coaster, but my philosophy is that if you want more respect, toughen your schedule and win more. Works everytime, even though it may take a few years.

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Top of the 3rd, TU capitalizes on 2 Chapman errors to get an unearned run.
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: dahlby on May 19, 2010, 04:32:25 PM
I did not imply that the NCAA should have changed the location after the bid was awarded.

No, but I quoted dp643 and I kinda figured it was clear I was responding to that.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

dahlby

Play interupted with a 2-1 count on the batter in Linfield. Not good news for the batter or the pitcher!
Score knotted at 1, with Chapman at bat.


D O.C.

I see your concern, and raise you having to go play football semis at Whitewater after a couple good snowstorms and temps below freezing.   ;D