BB: Regionals (West) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011

[TexasBB]

The only way the ASC will get two teams is if UTT does not win the conference tournament. The ASC is down this year and from what I am reading so are other conferences in the west. It would therfore not surprise me that a non-regional team is shipped in. Chapman is likely to make it IMO as I believe they sweep UD and win at least one of their final 3 games.

Texas BB

[forheavendial4999]

West doesn't seem likely to be short of teams as long as Chapman or University of Dallas makes it, or there is a surprise champ in the ASC. I think Hardin-Simmons should get in on a Pool C if they don't get blitzed in their tournament.

If neither get a bid, then there could be a fly-in, from just about anywhere really. If 2 or more of the above happen, then UD or UTT could be headed to Millington unless the champ of the ASC is Louisiana or Mississippi.

[Ralph Turner]

UDallas is a good example of how tough the ASC is.

Against a representative schedule of ASC teams (3 teams from each division, and 2 of the 6 foes making the ASC tourney), UDallas is only 9-6.  They went 3-3 against ASC tourney teams, East #2 UT-Dallas and West #3 Texas Lutheran.  They might have qualified for the ASC East, where there was a 3-way tie for 2nd at 11-7 with UT-Dallas, Louisiana College and Mississippi College.

[dp643]

They definitely would have qualified for the tournament in the west this year.

[CrashDavisD3]

Regional Prediction

Linfield
Redlands
Texas-Tyler
Hardin Simmons
Trinity Texas
Chapman or UDallas  or La Verne, or Cal Lutheran

[CrashDavisD3]

TEAM      R%+OWP
149 Linfield   1.350
274 Texas-Tyler   1.346
115 Redlands   1.317
152 Pomona-Pitzer   1.240
30 Chapman   1.237
245 Trinity (Texas)   1.199
240 Hardin-Simmons1.191
106 La Verne   1.187
181 Cal Lutheran   1.148
208 George Fox   1.148

[forheavendial4999]

TEAM      R%+OWP
149 Linfield   1.350
274 Texas-Tyler   1.346
115 Redlands   1.317
152 Pomona-Pitzer   1.240
30 Chapman   1.237
245 Trinity (Texas)   1.199
240 Hardin-Simmons1.191
106 La Verne   1.187
181 Cal Lutheran   1.148
208 George Fox   1.148

One would expect HSU to move up with conference tournament play. If they meet up with UT-Tyler in the final they could end up above Chapman, but passing Pomona-Pitzer seems more likely.

[JohnnyU]

My prediction for the regional rankings coming out later today...

Linfield
Redlands
Texas-Tyler
Chapman
Pomona-Pitzer
La Verne

Next 4:
Hardin-Simmons
Trinity (Texas)
Cal Lutheran
George Fox

[TexasBB]

It might be worth while for Ralph or someone else knowledgable to explain how the regional rankings are determined. Linfield in #1 and most people on this board predicted that. However they have less wins and more losses in the region than UT-Tyler does. The quality of their opponents must be deemed higher (more quality wins and losses to bettter quality opponents). Since most of UT-Tylers regional wens wins and all of its losses are against ASC teams it does not say much for the ASC.

Texas BB

[Ralph Turner]

West Region
1 Linfield 24-5 26-8
2 Texas-Tyler 30-4 33-4
3 Redlands 21-6 26-9
4 Chapman 15-8 24-10
5 Trinity (Texas) 27-10 33-11
6 Hardin-Simmons 24-10 28-11


Linfield went 4-0 in Arizona in February including decisive wins over UT-Dallas and Concordia, and LaVerne and Cal Lu.  Tha Arizona tournament may be the difference!   They also beat Chapman 3 games to 1.   They have the strongest schedule in the West.  Linfield Coach Scott Brosius knows whom and how to schedule!  Linfield 2011 season

UT-Tyler went 1-2 versus UT-D, and they have no signature wins over non-ASC-East teams.  This year, UMHB, Hendrix, Austin College and McMurry were just not strong, and did not help UTT.

Therefore, the committee had good reason to rank Linfield higher on common opponent(s).

UT-Tyler gets to play a lot of games at home.  I think that the program should investigate a West Coast/Arizona trip, every other year, at the least.

[CrashDavisD3]

This will help answer the WHY QUESTIONS

http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/staticpdfrank?doWhat=publicrankingsRedirect&sportCode=MBA&region=40&division=3

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2011/schedule?tmpl=sos-template

[El Hombre]

West Region
1 Linfield 24-5 26-8
2 Texas-Tyler 30-4 33-4
3 Redlands 21-6 26-9
4 Chapman 15-8 24-10
5 Trinity (Texas) 27-10 33-11
6 Hardin-Simmons 24-10 28-11


Linfield went 4-0 in Arizona in February including decisive wins over UT-Dallas and Concordia, and LaVerne and Cal Lu.  Tha Arizona tournament may be the difference!   They also beat Chapman 3 games to 1.   They have the strongest schedule in the West.  Linfield Coach Scott Brosius knows whom and how to schedule!  Linfield 2011 season

UT-Tyler went 1-2 versus UT-D, and they have no signature wins over non-ASC-East teams.  This year, UMHB, Hendrix, Austin College and McMurry were just not strong, and did not help UTT.

Therefore, the committee had good reason to rank Linfield higher on common opponent(s).

UT-Tyler gets to play a lot of games at home.  I think that the program should investigate a West Coast/Arizona trip, every other year, at the least.

Regarding the "toughest schedule in the West", the link to the SOS (provided by Crash Davis) lists the teams in the West with the toughest schedule as follows:

#  31  Chapman
#113  Redlands
#148  Linfield
#237  Hardin Simmons
#242  Trinity
#273  Texas Tyler

This helps explain the West Regional rankings, especially with regard to Texas-Tyler and Trinity.  Redlands and Chapman's SOS will rise with their remaining games. 

[Ralph Turner]

West Region
1 Linfield 24-5 26-8
2 Texas-Tyler 30-4 33-4
3 Redlands 21-6 26-9
4 Chapman 15-8 24-10
5 Trinity (Texas) 27-10 33-11
6 Hardin-Simmons 24-10 28-11


Linfield went 4-0 in Arizona in February including decisive wins over UT-Dallas and Concordia, and LaVerne and Cal Lu.  Tha Arizona tournament may be the difference!   They also beat Chapman 3 games to 1.   They have the strongest schedule in the West.  Linfield Coach Scott Brosius knows whom and how to schedule!  Linfield 2011 season

UT-Tyler went 1-2 versus UT-D, and they have no signature wins over non-ASC-East teams.  This year, UMHB, Hendrix, Austin College and McMurry were just not strong, and did not help UTT.

Therefore, the committee had good reason to rank Linfield higher on common opponent(s).

UT-Tyler gets to play a lot of games at home.  I think that the program should investigate a West Coast/Arizona trip, every other year, at the least.

Regarding the "toughest schedule in the West", the link to the SOS (provided by Crash Davis) lists the teams in the West with the toughest schedule as follows:

#  31  Chapman
#113  Redlands
#148  Linfield
#237  Hardin Simmons
#242  Trinity
#273  Texas Tyler

This helps explain the West Regional rankings, especially with regard to Texas-Tyler and Trinity.  Redlands and Chapman's SOS will rise with their remaining games.  

Coach Brosius had 24 games in the NWC that he had to schedule.  That left 16 open dates.

With those 16, he scheduled four games against 4 teams that finished in the top half of their conference/divisions.  He beat Chapman 3 out of 4.  He picked up 2 more game against the #3 and #4T teams in its conference.  (He had no control over the 6 games with Whitman and Lewis & Clark)

Chapman does a good job with scheduling.  They are not saddled with 3 games against Oxy and 3 games against Cal Tech, which would drop their SOS.  This year, both McMurry and Wheaton IL were down.  Chapman had the early season hiccup against Whitman Whiitier.

Thanks and +1 to Jack Parkman for the correction of Whitman to Whittier. 

[Ralph Turner]

West Region
1 Linfield 24-5   (.828)    26-8
2 Texas-Tyler 30-4 (.882)   33-4
3 Redlands 21-6 (.777)   26-9
4 Chapman 15-8 (.652)     24-10
5 Trinity (Texas) 27-10 (.729)     33-11
6 Hardin-Simmons 24-10 (.705)    28-11

In-region winning percentage

[Jack Parkman]

West Region
1 Linfield 24-5 26-8
2 Texas-Tyler 30-4 33-4
3 Redlands 21-6 26-9
4 Chapman 15-8 24-10
5 Trinity (Texas) 27-10 33-11
6 Hardin-Simmons 24-10 28-11


Linfield went 4-0 in Arizona in February including decisive wins over UT-Dallas and Concordia, and LaVerne and Cal Lu.  Tha Arizona tournament may be the difference!   They also beat Chapman 3 games to 1.   They have the strongest schedule in the West.  Linfield Coach Scott Brosius knows whom and how to schedule!  Linfield 2011 season

UT-Tyler went 1-2 versus UT-D, and they have no signature wins over non-ASC-East teams.  This year, UMHB, Hendrix, Austin College and McMurry were just not strong, and did not help UTT.

Therefore, the committee had good reason to rank Linfield higher on common opponent(s).

UT-Tyler gets to play a lot of games at home.  I think that the program should investigate a West Coast/Arizona trip, every other year, at the least.

Regarding the "toughest schedule in the West", the link to the SOS (provided by Crash Davis) lists the teams in the West with the toughest schedule as follows:

#  31  Chapman
#113  Redlands
#148  Linfield
#237  Hardin Simmons
#242  Trinity
#273  Texas Tyler

This helps explain the West Regional rankings, especially with regard to Texas-Tyler and Trinity.  Redlands and Chapman's SOS will rise with their remaining games. 

Coach Brosius had 24 games in the NWC that he had to schedule.  That left 16 open dates.

With those 16, he scheduled four games against 4 teams that finished in the top half of their conference/divisions.  He beat Chapman 3 out of 4.  He picked up 2 more game against the #3 and #4T teams in its conference.  (He had no control over the 6 games with Whitman and Lewis & Clark)

Chapman does a good job with scheduling.  They are not saddled with 3 games against Oxy and 3 games against Cal Tech, which would drop their SOS.  This year, both McMurry and Wheaton IL were down.  Chapman had the early season hiccup against WhitmanWhittier.

Just a quick fix for you.