BB: Regionals (West) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011

[LA Mike]

Texas Lutheran and Hendrix are both conferences in the western region.  I would suggest that they move Chapman out to another region.  Cal Lutheran should be in line with the second place finisher in the NWC -- compare those two and select one.

If we take the conference winners out of the region it starts to leave the seeding all up to some mystic flexible system.  Hendrix won their conference (western region), the winner of the ASC (western region) and the second team from the ASC should be there also (I agree they should be two conferences -- maybe take the SCAC and the ASC and make 3 more balanced conferences  -- 19 schools   =  6+6+7 conferences and maybe the most eastern gets slid into the southern region.............).   

Fellow web predictors--- this is good stuff !!!

Inning over, see you again.  LA Mike 

[royhobbs]

LA Mike- your take on this makes a lot of sense. Cal Lu should be considered if two from the NWC are, and 3 more balanced conferences in the SW makes it much more fair. Chapman's lucky to be an Indy, otherwise they'd be going nowhere.

[LA Mike]

New Regional Rankings   4/30/09

1.  Pom-Pit     SCIAC
2.  Tex- Tyler  ASC
3.  Pac Lut      NWC
4.  Tex- Dal     ASC
5.  Geo Fox     NWC
6.  Chapman   Ind

What happened to Hendrix--SCAC automatic bid ??    They are part of the Western Region as a conference.  The pool B bid should be sent to balance another regional-- they have to fly to where ever they go anyway....  Maybe I am confusing the "Regional Ranking process" with the "Regional Tourn. Seeding process".

Ralph and Big Poppa  -- any comments

At the minimum, keep the conference members within the regional playoff.
We only have 40 teams including the Ind. Teams and therefore only a 6 team regional.................

I know -- 2 weeks until the first pitch ---- Final Reg. Rank. # 3 on May 7th.........

LA Mike

[BigPoppa]

Hendrix is not ranked in the Regional Ranking, but they are guaranteed a Pool A bid form the SCAC. If they are shipped west, it could bump a west Pool C out out or to another region.

[LA Mike]

BP--
Kind of like batting practice. I throw you a question and you hit me with an answer............

Is there a priority of Pool A, B or C that gets shipped out of a region or is it just an arbitrary "adjustment"? 

The 6 Pool B teams are listed from all over the country.  Most of them have to be transported (Bus or Fly).  Should these Pool "Bees" be spread around to the various regions first, before moving the conference members (Pool C teams) out and away to another region?

I am in the dugout waiting, thanks........LA Mike

[Ralph Turner]

BP--
Kind of like batting practice. I throw you a question and you hit me with an answer............

Is there a priority of Pool A, B or C that gets shipped out of a region or is it just an arbitrary "adjustment"? 

The 6 Pool B teams are listed from all over the country.  Most of them have to be transported (Bus or Fly).  Should these Pool "Bees" be spread around to the various regions first, before moving the conference members (Pool C teams) out and away to another region?

I am in the dugout waiting, thanks........LA Mike

Travel expense...

The committee looks at who must be flown from the entire field and then uses them to fill out the brackets of those who can be bussed.

Hendrix can be flown any where.  So can Millsaps.

[LA Mike]

Well as far as traveling, everyone has to fly to Linfield.  Hendrix, Texas and So. Cal. teams, it does not matter. 

It seems odd to me that teams from Arkansas and East Texas are in the west, but I guess the West Region teams are in Tex. and along the West coast.

The brackets will be ready to be finalized by the real committee and set for the final predictions by the fans after the weekend. 

Good luck with your favorites,

[Ralph Turner]

Well as far as traveling, everyone has to fly to Linfield.  Hendrix, Texas and So. Cal. teams, it does not matter. 

It seems odd to me that teams from Arkansas and East Texas are in the west, but I guess the West Region teams are in Tex. and along the West coast.

The brackets will be ready to be finalized by the real committee and set for the final predictions by the fans after the weekend. 

Good luck with your favorites,

I remember once seeing a poster, a cartoon depiction, about the world west of the Charles River.  There was no doubt that Arkansas was West!   

[LA Mike]

Ralph

Cannot give you a (+) because I am a new guy, but you did make me chuckle and I needed it tonight.

Good luck with your favorites Friday and Saturday.

[cat_fan_08]

Would splitting up the west region into two different regionals dillute the regional talent pool? What other problems would it create.

I think there are enough worthy teams in california, oregon, and washington to have one regional and then have another for teams in texas, arkansas, and whatever other states are in the region.

[Ralph Turner]

Would splitting up the west region into two different regionals dillute the regional talent pool? What other problems would it create.

I think there are enough worthy teams in california, oregon, and washington to have one regional and then have another for teams in texas, arkansas, and whatever other states are in the region.

There is one NCAA D-III bid for every 6.5 participants.  There is no other way to cut it!  The NCAA only ranks the top 15% of teams in a region.  The poor tiny South Region only ranks 5 teams.

In fact, the geographic isolation for the West Region may actually work out best for us as we are configured.

NWC  -- 9 teams
SCIAC - 8 teams
Indep -  2 teams (Chapman and Menlo)  Cal State East Bay is going to D-II. (We add LaSierra in 2012).


"Texas" -

ASC             -- 15 teams
SCAC-West  --  4 teams
Indep          --  1 team  (UDallas) 

We don't have the teams to split.

[Warren Thompson]

Well as far as traveling, everyone has to fly to Linfield.  Hendrix, Texas and So. Cal. teams, it does not matter. 

It seems odd to me that teams from Arkansas and East Texas are in the west, but I guess the West Region teams are in Tex. and along the West coast.

The brackets will be ready to be finalized by the real committee and set for the final predictions by the fans after the weekend. 

Good luck with your favorites,

I remember once seeing a poster, a cartoon depiction, about the world west of the Charles River.  There was no doubt that Arkansas was West!   

Ralph: some Bean-and-Cod-City-centric maps show everything west of the Charles River as terra incognita, the land posted as "Here there be dragons."

[cat_fan_08]

As far as pool A teams getting shipped out look at Linfield last year. They were a conference winner and got the pool A bid but dropped in the regional rankings and were shipped to the central regional.

[CrashDavisD3]

Prediction

Pomona
Cal Lu
George Fox
Pac Lu
Hendrix
ASC Winner

Any other guesses out there

[P-P Fan]

Prediction

Pomona
Cal Lu
George Fox
Pac Lu
Hendrix
ASC Winner

Any other guesses out there

I think based on the weakness of the Pool B's this year, Chapman will get in. They would displace Hendrix who I believe will get shipped elsewhere. Additionally, though I believe CLU should make it, not being ranked in the last regional rankings (which didn't include Hendrix) doesn't help. I'm not exactly sure what's going on with the Texas teams- I don't get a chance to follow them much- but I would think UT-Tyler gets in even if the ASC championship against Mississippi.
Any thoughts/insight from  people more familiar with the Texas teams?