BB: Regionals (West) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011

[TexasBB]

Well at the veryl least my post has led to people sharing their opinions and thinking about it. We can mechanically make the selection based on national rankings - or other methods. The additional 23 should come from a national pool. I too do not like all of the emphasis that is placed on conference tournaments. The best teams like Millsaps can have a bad weekend. The emphasis should be on the entire body of work. That is however a different issue for a different day. Expansion - inclusion to 64 makes logical sense from a number of different perspectives. What there should not be is a top 25 team sitting at home. The current system not only makes that possible but almost guarntees it. I for one would like to see that corrected and by expanding the Pool C group to 23 it goes a long way to fixing the problem. That does not mean that weak teams make it - it should be the best 23 that are not already in Pool A or Pool B.

[TexasBB]

As I posted on the ASC site the top 25 is out and it looks like 6 teams from the West Region are ranked. Chapman is not one of those so if Chapman is awarded a Pool B slot it appears that one of those ranked teams will be sitting at home. Plays to my arguement of an expanded tournament with selection from a true national pool. No top 25 team should be sitting at home.

[wildcat11]

Weather in the PacNW has been horrible the past couple of weeks (in fact all of this past spring).  Accuweather.com is showing rain next Wednesday but it looks like a good week of weather after that...however that could change. 

[CrashDavisD3]

2 years ago the West Regional was scheduled to be at McMurry in Abilene Texas.

At the very last minute it was switched to Chapman due week long heavy thundershowers in Texas. Last year with no weather issues it was played
at McMurry which did a great job hosting the event with a great venue.

I hope the weather holds up for Linfield and the McMinnville area.

[cat_fan_08]

Linfield has a great facility that will hold up even if there is a little rain. The infield is full field turf except for the mound. Outfield has good drainage. I would expect the weather to be pretty nice, it starts to turn around this time of year.

With the softball west regional having 3 teams from 1 conference (SCIAC) any chance that the baseball west regional sports 3 teams from the NWC?

[BigPoppa]

Linfield has a great facility that will hold up even if there is a little rain. The infield is full field turf except for the mound. Outfield has good drainage. I would expect the weather to be pretty nice, it starts to turn around this time of year.

With the softball west regional having 3 teams from 1 conference (SCIAC) any chance that the baseball west regional sports 3 teams from the NWC?

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I do not see Linfield getting a third NWC bid.

[wildcat11]

Agreed BigPoppa.  Our 'Cats just ran out of gas in the end.  Too bad as it would really make a great enviroment for the regional even better.

[LA Mike]

The field does look great in the photos.  How does that artificial turf hold up with metal spikes or moulded cletes?

The western region is starting to take shape and the list of teams is coming together.  I do agree that the loser of the GF and PacLU game on Saturday will drop to the bubble.  If they are in, they will be in the western region due to the ability to bus them to the tournament.  (They will be the only ones !!!) 

Pomona-Pitzer  -- SCIAC -- A
Tex Tyler --  ASC -- A
_______ -- NWC -- A
_______ --  C
Chapman -- B
Hendrix --  SCAC-- A   (they have to fly somewhere !)

Pick One of Two
Geo Fox
Pac LU

Pick One of Two
Cal LU
Tex Dal

    And just a final thought on the "Conference Tournaments" that are still going on in all the other regions........some of those teams have 42-48 games (see also ASC teams) played under the guise of "the tournament games do not count".  [The ASC should split the conference -- ASWC and ASEC-- If they each had a Pool A bid to the western region it could make scheduling work out more consistently.] 

    I "timed out"-- and now I am back ----- I think that is a way for the other conferences to play an extra week, play an extra 6-8 games and not be restricted by the 40 game rule of the west.  The conferences should be required to keep a stack of 3, 4, 5, or 6 games that has to be held back from the scheduled games to allow for the "tournament" to happen. 
    There is one conference that has 12 conference games...........Why do they only play each team twice   It leaves any head to head potentially a split, and does not prove any strength between the teams.  It only allows the teams (in this particular conference) to control their schedule for another 28 games plus the "conference tournament" games.   In my opinion, this is the nothing but a wild pitch!!

Now, just wait until Sunday night at 2am
LA Mike

[cat_fan_08]

If PLU gets the NWC bid then George Fox will definitely get the pool C bid. It will cost the NCAA nothing to send them to the regional since Fox is 15 minutes down the road from McMinnville.

Thats right for those of you who don't know, Linfield is the school but the town is McMinnville.

[Jack Parkman]

If PLU gets the NWC bid then George Fox will definitely get the pool C bid. It will cost the NCAA nothing to send them to the regional since Fox is 15 minutes down the road from McMinnville.

Thats right for those of you who don't know, Linfield is the school but the town is McMinnville.

I am not so sure George Fox would get in if they lost this weekend.  Cal Lutheran seems to be the top Pool C team in the West.  George Fox would not get in before Cal Lu.  The only way would be for there to be multiple Pool C's from the West, which I am not positive would happen.  Who knows, I could be wrong....again.

[d3baseballnut]

If PLU gets the NWC bid then George Fox will definitely get the pool C bid. It will cost the NCAA nothing to send them to the regional since Fox is 15 minutes down the road from McMinnville.

Thats right for those of you who don't know, Linfield is the school but the town is McMinnville.

I am not so sure George Fox would get in if they lost this weekend.  Cal Lutheran seems to be the top Pool C team in the West.  George Fox would not get in before Cal Lu.  The only way would be for there to be multiple Pool C's from the West, which I am not positive would happen.  Who knows, I could be wrong....again.

I have no doubt that George Fox is better than Cal Lutheran, but I agree with you that I am skeptical they would get in if they lost...even though they should.

If George Fox gets in, they are my pick to win the regional.

[Jack Parkman]

If PLU gets the NWC bid then George Fox will definitely get the pool C bid. It will cost the NCAA nothing to send them to the regional since Fox is 15 minutes down the road from McMinnville.

Thats right for those of you who don't know, Linfield is the school but the town is McMinnville.

I am not so sure George Fox would get in if they lost this weekend.  Cal Lutheran seems to be the top Pool C team in the West.  George Fox would not get in before Cal Lu.  The only way would be for there to be multiple Pool C's from the West, which I am not positive would happen.  Who knows, I could be wrong....again.

I have no doubt that George Fox is better than Cal Lutheran, but I agree with you that I am skeptical they would get in if they lost...even though they should.

If George Fox gets in, they are my pick to win the regional.

I am all for personal opinions, but I am wondering what you judge yours on in regards to Cal Lu/George Fox?

[P-P Fan]

If PLU gets the NWC bid then George Fox will definitely get the pool C bid. It will cost the NCAA nothing to send them to the regional since Fox is 15 minutes down the road from McMinnville.

Thats right for those of you who don't know, Linfield is the school but the town is McMinnville.

I am not so sure George Fox would get in if they lost this weekend.  Cal Lutheran seems to be the top Pool C team in the West.  George Fox would not get in before Cal Lu.  The only way would be for there to be multiple Pool C's from the West, which I am not positive would happen.  Who knows, I could be wrong....again.

I have no doubt that George Fox is better than Cal Lutheran, but I agree with you that I am skeptical they would get in if they lost...even though they should.

If George Fox gets in, they are my pick to win the regional.

I am all for personal opinions, but I am wondering what you judge yours on in regards to Cal Lu/George Fox?

I would have to agree Jack. I have seen Cal Lu play, and they were easily the best team PP played all year. And there's certainly no denying that they have one of the best overall pitching staffs in the west, if not d3. Haven't seen George Fox, but I do know Pac Lu did not impress me very much (guess they could have just had a bad day...).

Also, despite some pretty impressive stats (.370 team BA w/ 9 regulars at .345 and above) it's pretty tough to compare George Fox to the rest of the west when they have only played CSEB in non-conference in region games (took 2 of 3). I understand that a lot of this has to do with the 32 game NWC shedule (which is ridiculous), but saying that they are no doubt better than Cal Lu, or that they will win the west regional is a pretty bold assertion.

Have you actually had a chance to see them play in person d3nut?

[BigPoppa]

D3nut might be the most appropriate name I have ever seen for a poster on this board

[royhobbs]

D3nut should have wore a cup!