BB: Regionals (West) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011

[CrashDavisD3]

HMMMM....
Special Weather Statement for Central Willamette Valley, OR
Updated 18 May 2010 6:55 am Local Time
Storm Watch
Issued by The National Weather Service
Portland, OR

AN UNSEASONABLY STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL AFFECT NORTHWEST OREGON WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. THE ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT WILL BRING WINDY CONDITIONS TO THE COAST WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT ALONG WITH WIDESPREAD RAIN ACROSS THE AREA. MUCH COLDER AIR WILL MOVE ONSHORE BEHIND THIS FRONT WEDNESDAY NIGHT LOWERING SNOW LEVELS TO NEAR OR BELOW PASS LEVELS.

[diviiibbjunkie]

Are they any limits on what times games can be played ? Can we get some crazy game times if the rain breaks or lessens at night  

i wouldnt think so.  I know TU started a game at 12:30am two years ago in the conference tournament.

Crash, if I remember, some of the games at McMurray a few years ago started pretty late, no?

[Bmo]

At least the infield appears to be all turf and it does have good lights.  This years D2 tournament, the South Central Regional was washed out both Saturday and Sunday.  They apparently received special NCAA approval to extend the tournament through Tuesday.  I would rather see that sort of accommodation made over the "Decided by committee" clause invoked.

[RSSmith]

Rain predicted for Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Monday. No rain on Sunday

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/tenday/97128

Ahhh...most of it looks like showers...not a big deal this time of the year. 

Here's a frightening quote from the handbook:

"If inclement weather is involved, the last possible time a
regional championship game will be permitted to start is 9 p.m. local time Monday,
May 24. If the regional representative cannot be determined on the field of play by this
time, one team will be selected by the committee."

I didn't read the rest of that section which appeared on the following page:

"Method of determining regional champion if play cannot be completed:
Six-team tournament:
a. Up until one team becomes 3-0, the highest-seeded team that has not been eliminated
will advance to the finals inAppleton.
b. If teams have an equal number of losses, the higher-seeded team, as determined by
the Baseball Committee before the start of regional play, will advance to the finals in
Appleton.
Seven- and eight-team tournament:
a. Up until the completion of game four the highest seeded team will advance to the finals
in Appleton.
b. Up until the completion of game 9, the highest-seeded undefeated team will advance
to the finals in Appleton.
c. After game 9, the undefeated team will advance to Appleton. If both teams have the
same number of losses the higher-seeded team will advance to Appleton."

[RSSmith]

Rain predicted for Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Monday. No rain on Sunday

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/tenday/97128

Ahhh...most of it looks like showers...not a big deal this time of the year. 

Here's a frightening quote from the handbook:

"If inclement weather is involved, the last possible time a
regional championship game will be permitted to start is 9 p.m. local time Monday,
May 24. If the regional representative cannot be determined on the field of play by this
time, one team will be selected by the committee."

I didn't read the rest of that section which appeared on the following page:

"Method of determining regional champion if play cannot be completed:
Six-team tournament:
a. Up until one team becomes 3-0, the highest-seeded team that has not been eliminated
will advance to the finals inAppleton.
b. If teams have an equal number of losses, the higher-seeded team, as determined by
the Baseball Committee before the start of regional play, will advance to the finals in
Appleton.
Seven- and eight-team tournament:
a. Up until the completion of game four the highest seeded team will advance to the finals
in Appleton.
b. Up until the completion of game 9, the highest-seeded undefeated team will advance
to the finals in Appleton.
c. After game 9, the undefeated team will advance to Appleton. If both teams have the
same number of losses the higher-seeded team will advance to Appleton."

As I read that again, I find it rather confusing for six-team tournaments.  What happens after one team becomes 3-0 (I suppose that team goes to the finals, though the handbook doesn't say so).  What happens if the higher seeded team is 1-1 and the lower seeded team is 2-0?  Since no team has reached 3-0, doesn't the handbook say the higher seed advances?  And if that is the case, doesn't that make section b. unnecessary?

[CrashDavisD3]

Rain predicted for Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Monday. No rain on Sunday

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/tenday/97128

Ahhh...most of it looks like showers...not a big deal this time of the year. 

Here's a frightening quote from the handbook:

"If inclement weather is involved, the last possible time a
regional championship game will be permitted to start is 9 p.m. local time Monday,
May 24. If the regional representative cannot be determined on the field of play by this
time, one team will be selected by the committee."

I didn't read the rest of that section which appeared on the following page:

"Method of determining regional champion if play cannot be completed:
Six-team tournament:
a. Up until one team becomes 3-0, the highest-seeded team that has not been eliminated
will advance to the finals inAppleton.
b. If teams have an equal number of losses, the higher-seeded team, as determined by
the Baseball Committee before the start of regional play, will advance to the finals in
Appleton.
Seven- and eight-team tournament:
a. Up until the completion of game four the highest seeded team will advance to the finals
in Appleton.
b. Up until the completion of game 9, the highest-seeded undefeated team will advance
to the finals in Appleton.
c. After game 9, the undefeated team will advance to Appleton. If both teams have the
same number of losses the higher-seeded team will advance to Appleton."

As I read that again, I find it rather confusing for six-team tournaments.  What happens after one team becomes 3-0 (I suppose that team goes to the finals, though the handbook doesn't say so).  What happens if the higher seeded team is 1-1 and the lower seeded team is 2-0?  Since no team has reached 3-0, doesn't the handbook say the higher seed advances?  And if that is the case, doesn't that make section b. unnecessary?

The NCAA despite its billions in revenue and access to brilliant people at outstanding universities does not seem to compose documents and policies, and rules with crystal clear clarity so all can understand along without document errors that are caught all the time in past years and current years.

I hoping for the games to be decided on the field and each day the weather is good enough to get all games in...so we dont resort to the rules of the NCAA and their "COMMITTEE"

[Ralph Turner]

Are they any limits on what times games can be played ? Can we get some crazy game times if the rain breaks or lessens at night  

The New England Regional played into the wee hours of the morning (3 am?) about 2 years ago due to rain delays.

[TexasBB]

One tough regional - the west region has all 6 of its teams ranked in the top 20. I don't believe any other regional has such a tough mix.

[wildcat11]

Just snapped a photo from my office window.  I think this is what you'll be seeing for most of the week.

[tigerfan_2001]

Just snapped a photo from my office window.  I think this is what you'll be seeing for most of the week.

And remind me why the regional is in oregon again??!!

[hsusid]

At least the infield appears to be all turf and it does have good lights.  This years D2 tournament, the South Central Regional was washed out both Saturday and Sunday.  They apparently received special NCAA approval to extend the tournament through Tuesday.  I would rather see that sort of accommodation made over the "Decided by committee" clause invoked.

Crazy stuff in that regional. Abilene Christian played at 7:30 last night in a game that went 13 innings and over four hours. They turned right around and played another game that STARTED sometime around 12:30 a.m. They finished around 3:30. ACU was in the loser's bracket and they won both games.

They turned around and played Central Missouri and beat them 11-5 in a 2 p.m. game and that forced the if game right after. They started at about 5:30 and finished around 8ish and ACU lost that game.

In a 25-hour period ACU played four games (one that went 13 innings). They ended up on the short end, but I bet they would rather have that experience than the one of sitting and watch it ran for three days and then letting the one seed advance because of a committee. 

[wildcat11]

Just snapped a photo from my office window.  I think this is what you'll be seeing for most of the week.

And remind me why the regional is in oregon again??!!

Because Linfield has stand out facilities and did a fantastic job in hosting the regional last year.

[frank_ezelle]

It's a shame to have such a powerhouse field and the biggest concern is about the weather and being able to complete the regional.  As a Millsaps fan, I'm fairly familiar with MS College and Trinity and it's hard for me to imagine that there's a tougher #5 and #6 combo in any other region.  It's also hard for me to imagine that there's much of a gap between any of these 6 teams.

For MS College and Trinity, the NCAA rules force these teams to look at this regional as a single elimination tournament.  With the forecast and time constraints making it a possibility of the regional failing to produce a winner, the lower seeded teams may not have a chance to win the championship once they get that first loss.

Personally, I think the winner of the opening game will be the winner of the regional.  There's always the question mark of how Trinity will play after such a long layoff, but they were playing fantastic baseball at the end of the season.  There pitching is better and deeper than what the stats sheet might indicate, and their hitting is going to be tough for anyone to stop.  Admittedly, Chapman has a starter who is going to be tough to beat today, but if Trinity can get a good start (from Klimesh is my guess) and the bats aren't too rusty, I can see Trinity taking this game and then holding on for the regional championship.

[Ralph Turner]

I have anticipated Klimesh as the starter for TU, too.  That should be a good game.

[dp643]

Not questioning the fact that Linfield can host and did a wonderful job....but given their location and the higher likely hood of precipitation in that area...it makes you second guess to have it there two years in a row. I know they cant predict the weather that far out, but I think you are flirting with this type of situation every time you give Linfield the regional.