Conference changes

[jmcozenlaw]

Dave, I'm hearing some rumblings out of Lancaster about LBC and conference change related news but can't get my three contacts to open up. Stay tuned. The NEAC could be going bye bye if they and Morrisville move on..............and if St. Mary's can bail soon.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Dave, I'm hearing some rumblings out of Lancaster about LBC and conference change related news but can't get my three contacts to open up. Stay tuned. The NEAC could be going bye bye if they and Morrisville move on..............and if St. Mary's can bail soon.

If you have been paying attention ... I've mentioned LBC moving conferences for awhile. I have not mentioned where they are going because I haven't felt it is my place as of yet to do so, but I have either mentioned the NEAC losing more members, a Mid-Atlantic school changing conferences, or flat out said I'm told LBC will be leaving the NEAC many times in the last nine months or more.

SMC has no where to bail to at this point unless they realize their mistake (which I have told them, for the record) and they go back to the CAC/ACAA. Otherwise, where do they go?

Morrisville State... as much as I think they can leave, do tell me where? I don't see where they go and the SUNYAC doesn't seem likely at all (or it would have happened already - a while ago).

But yeah ... LBC will be leaving the NEAC. I think it is pretty easy to figure out where they are going, by the way.

[jmcozenlaw]

Dave, I'm hearing some rumblings out of Lancaster about LBC and conference change related news but can't get my three contacts to open up. Stay tuned. The NEAC could be going bye bye if they and Morrisville move on..............and if St. Mary's can bail soon.

If you have been paying attention ... I've mentioned LBC moving conferences for awhile. I have not mentioned where they are going because I haven't felt it is my place as of yet to do so, but I have either mentioned the NEAC losing more members, a Mid-Atlantic school changing conferences, or flat out said I'm told LBC will be leaving the NEAC many times in the last nine months or more.

SMC has no where to bail to at this point unless they realize their mistake (which I have told them, for the record) and they go back to the CAC/ACAA. Otherwise, where do they go?

Morrisville State... as much as I think they can leave, do tell me where? I don't see where they go and the SUNYAC doesn't seem likely at all (or it would have happened already - a while ago).

But yeah ... LBC will be leaving the NEAC. I think it is pretty easy to figure out where they are going, by the way.

Dave, yes you have said that LBC will be leaving the NEAC for quite some time. I'm guessing we're close to an announcement. They have also secured two rather large (for a school their size) gifts that will help in their plans to significantly grow the institution and sports programs. They've got a huge chunk of undeveloped land (although the cows and horses have to go somewhere ) and plenty of physical room for growth.

I don't see anything near a natural landing spot for Morrisvlle. They are a NY-fish-out-of-water at this point (I also wonder the same thing about Gallaudet from time to time..........and you probably have some info, or at least some thoughts, given your relationship with Sam).

SMC should go back to the CAC/ACAA.........tuck tail between legs and use the feeling of a very shaky NEAC as an "excuse". I'm guessing the CAC/ACAA would take them back as that strange conference alignment can't be too picky at this point, can they?

This all stinks Dave and I'm afraid the light at the end of the tunnel is further off in the distance than many believe..........and it also might be a train and NOT the sun.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I mentioned on one of the recent podcasts I felt the LBC move would happen in the next six months (announcement wise).

I know Gallaudet has looked around for a new home and has been denied - multiple times (usually for geographic reasons). I also know the CAC came calling, ironic but also not surprising, and Gallaudet turned them down.

I am not sure where Gallaudet could fall if they left the NEAC or the conference blew up ... and for the record, I have not gotten any information from Sam nor would I reveal anything about Gallaudet had I gotten it from Sam for the reason you gave. Sam and I have known each other for years and anyone knowing even a little of that would figure my intel came from Gallaudet. I don't believe I have ever revealed anything Sam as told me in public unless he told me something I already had from other sources (i.e. the reason I said it publicly wasn't because Sam gave me it). I sit on things a lot of times because of those relationships - either because people will figure out where I am getting my info (thus identifying a source that doesn't want to be identified or because those conversations are between friends or me learning more and not for public anyway).

Quick side note, I happened to get the information on who Roanoke was hiring to replace Page Moir as head coach. It happened to be my college classmate and friend Clay Nunley. I had it from multiple sources and broke it. There is a longer story to this, the next day or two days later the Roanoke Times reported on Clay getting the job and talked about how it broke naming me. Then used an early paragraph to simple point out that Clay and I had gone to college to together and then moved on with the article. Their point was to try and make it seem that Clay and given me the info and thus how I broke the story. It made me laugh ... Clay wasn't my source. He wasn't any of my sources on that particular story, but the assumption was made. Thus an example of why I wouldn't do that with Sam - sometimes it is so obvious it can't be the way it works.

I don't disagree that SMC should go back ... but that ship has sailed. They jumped in the first lifeboat that came along and didn't check to see if it was leaking. They bought into some explanations and stories the NEAC was selling and in my opinion never did their homework. They never checked to see if that information was accurate. I'm not the only one who knew what SMC was sold was a pile of crap ... and thus I don't think they can go back to the CAC/ACAA (but they really, really need to).

The CAC/ACAA shouldn't be picky, but they also don't need to be. They will be a transition conference for many new DIIIs and others for a period of time until other conference shakeups creates more opportunities. Until then, they will be the hybrid the ACAA was created to represent but with a strong group with the CAC members allowing there to be AQs in a lot of sports.

What specifically stinks? There could be a lot of things you are alluding to ...

[CNU85]

 

[CNU85]

Well dang! 

[jmcozenlaw]

Dave, I was just really referencing this entire situation (COVID) and what has done to so many people, businesses, institutions, etc. "Stinks" was my 'cleaned up' word!!

I'm just hoping that the Hoopsville shows a few months from now actually have some game action to discuss. Fingers crossed!!

[Inkblot]

Southern Virginia put out a release about fall sports today.  Within it is buried this tidbit (emphasis mine):

With this question in mind, the Coast 2 Coast (formerly Capital Athletic Conference) today elected to postpone—rather than cancel—intercollegiate competition and championships for the following fall sports: men's and women's soccer, men's and women's cross country, field hockey, and women's volleyball.

[CNU85]

Fall is done

https://www.cacsports.com/general/2020-21/releases/20200713i35peq

[CNU85]

Southern Virginia put out a release about fall sports today.  Within it is buried this tidbit:

With this question in mind, the Coast 2 Coast (formerly Capital Athletic Conference) today elected to postpone—rather than cancel—intercollegiate competition and championships for the following fall sports: men's and women's soccer, men's and women's cross country, field hockey, and women's volleyball. Likewise, the Old Dominion Athletic Conference, our conference affiliate for football, today also elected to postpone its football season until January 1, 2021.

Shows the amazing lack of class of individuals at SVU. The Conference name change has not been announced by the CAC and SVU had to put it in their press release. If it hasn't been announced, then it is still the CAC. No need to steal the show and for what purpose? "I knew before you did"? 

Update -- SVU just changed the release

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I tried to confirm the new name with one conference coach. He hadn't even heard of it. Not that it isn't correct, I just thought it was funny.

[KnightSlappy]

Southern Virginia put out a release about fall sports today.  Within it is buried this tidbit:

With this question in mind, the Coast 2 Coast (formerly Capital Athletic Conference) today elected to postpone—rather than cancel—intercollegiate competition and championships for the following fall sports: men's and women's soccer, men's and women's cross country, field hockey, and women's volleyball. Likewise, the Old Dominion Athletic Conference, our conference affiliate for football, today also elected to postpone its football season until January 1, 2021.

Shows the amazing lack of class of individuals at SVU. The Conference name change has not been announced by the CAC and SVU had to put it in their press release. If it hasn't been announced, then it is still the CAC. No need to steal the show and for what purpose? "I knew before you did"? 

Update -- SVU just changed the release

Sorry to chime in on two-month-old almost-news, but Coast 2 Coast would be an amazingly terrible conference name. So bad that I would be impressed by it.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Southern Virginia put out a release about fall sports today.  Within it is buried this tidbit:

With this question in mind, the Coast 2 Coast (formerly Capital Athletic Conference) today elected to postpone—rather than cancel—intercollegiate competition and championships for the following fall sports: men's and women's soccer, men's and women's cross country, field hockey, and women's volleyball. Likewise, the Old Dominion Athletic Conference, our conference affiliate for football, today also elected to postpone its football season until January 1, 2021.

Shows the amazing lack of class of individuals at SVU. The Conference name change has not been announced by the CAC and SVU had to put it in their press release. If it hasn't been announced, then it is still the CAC. No need to steal the show and for what purpose? "I knew before you did"? 

Update -- SVU just changed the release

Sorry to chime in on two-month-old almost news, but Coast 2 Coast would be an amazingly terrible conference name. So bad that I would be impressed by it.

Not sure if because of Covid or because of some reaction to the leak ... but they haven't come out with the new name.

I also find it interesting because it might be the second conference I know that ended up not releasing their info when the news got out first. The first one ended up finally announcing their news ... 6-9 months later. SMH

[Caz Bombers]

per their assistant baseball coach on Twitter, Pine Manor Athletics are done forever.

https://twitter.com/CoachDiver/status/1306354722232823809

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Sadly ... no surprise.