Conference changes

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Caz Bombers

So they may or may not be eligible for CUNYAC Pool A bids and/or NCAA Tournaments via Pool C in 2019-20.

CUNYAC will go through the 2-year grace period and then slot into Pool B in men's tennis, women's tennis, women's soccer and softball.

Inkblot

If they're accepted to D2, they'll begin the transition in 2019–20 and be ineligible for D3 championships. Frostburg State will be on the same transition schedule despite moving to their new conference a year sooner.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Inkblot on March 01, 2019, 02:35:17 PM
If they're accepted to D2, they'll begin the transition in 2019–20 and be ineligible for D3 championships. Frostburg State will be on the same transition schedule despite moving to their new conference a year sooner.

No ... UT-Tyler did a transition this year. They played a full DIII schedule and were DIII members while preparing for DII. Benedictine planned the same thing until reversing course.

Frostburg is NOT transitioning. They are going in full to DII - IF accepted - next season.

From what I read about CSI, they too are going full into DII - though they will honor their DIII schedules next season and start DII conference play the next year ... but they plan to be a DII member next season - again IF accepted. That would mean they would NOT be eligible for DIII post season next year.
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Inkblot

I meant that Frostburg State and Staten Island, if accepted to Division II, will both be in the first year of reclassifying to Division II next season (on track to become eligible for DII championships in 2022–23), despite the fact that Frostburg will be playing a Division II schedule while CSI plays a DIII schedule.
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Ralph Turner

From Ron Boerger...

Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 04, 2019, 11:26:44 AM
Southern Vermont College is shutting down at the end of the semester.

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2019/03/04/southern-vermont-latest-small-college-close

Hard to believe a school this small (400 enrollment after recent declines) was able to support 13 sports.

SVC is a member for the NECC.

Ralph Turner

Reminding readers that Newbury is closing this year too...

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 14, 2018, 04:11:40 PM
Newbery announced today they'll be closing at the end of this academic year, so that's another one gone from the NECC.


https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2018/12/14/newbury-college-will-close

The NECC will be down to 7.

Caz Bombers

Man that sucks. I'm getting bummed out reading these stories feels like every week now.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 04, 2019, 11:57:51 AM
From Ron Boerger...

Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 04, 2019, 11:26:44 AM
Southern Vermont College is shutting down at the end of the semester.

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2019/03/04/southern-vermont-latest-small-college-close

Hard to believe a school this small (400 enrollment after recent declines) was able to support 13 sports.

SVC is a member for the NECC.

I'm sure the school actually *needed* 13 sports to support itself. I wonder how much of the student population played intercollegiate athletics.
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Caz Bombers

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 04, 2019, 11:59:29 AM
Reminding readers that Newbury is closing this year too...

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 14, 2018, 04:11:40 PM
Newbery announced today they'll be closing at the end of this academic year, so that's another one gone from the NECC.


https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2018/12/14/newbury-college-will-close

The NECC will be down to 7.

Men's volleyball and women's lacrosse will each be down to 6 teams, grace period begins next season, Pool B in spring '22, unless of course there are additions.

Bay Path allows the women's side of the league to have a little more breathing room, but men's soccer, men's basketball and baseball will be at the AQ minimum of 7.

The NECC should call Pine Manor's president and AD, like, this afternoon.

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KnightSlappy

#565
I've tried to catch up, let me know if I missed anything.

Provisional Pipeline for 2018-2019
First year full members: Alfred State, Illinois Tech, Iowa Wesleyan, McMurry (reclassifying)
*4th year provisional members: Belhaven
*3rd year provisional members: none
2nd year provisional members: Brevard, Dean, Pfeiffer
1st year provisional members: SUNY-Delhi, Johnson and Wales (Col.)
Exploratory: Bob Jones, Pratt, University of St Thomas (TX), Mississippi University for Women.
*Games against Year 3 and 4 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Conference Changes Starting in 2019-2020
Alfred State leaves the ACAA for the AMCC
Benedictine leaves D3 for D2
Frostburg State leaves D3 for D2
Manhattanville leaves the MACF for the SKY
New Rochelle (IND) closes
Newbury (NECC) closes
Penn State-Harrisburg leaves the CAC for a return to the NEAC
Southern Vermont (NECC) closes
Staten Island leaves D3 for D2
Stevens leaves the E8 for the MACF
St. Elizabeth leaves the NEAC for the CSAC
SUNY-Delhi joins the NAC
Texas-Tyler leaves D3 for D2
Thomas More possibly leaves D3 for the NAIA

Conference Changes Starting in 2020-2021
Keuka leaves the NEAC for the E8

Ralph Turner

Quote from: KnightSlappy on March 04, 2019, 03:05:13 PM
I've tried to catch up, let me know if I missed anything.

Provisional Pipeline for 2018-2019
First year full members: Alfred State, Illinois Tech, Iowa Wesleyan, McMurry (reclassifying)
*4th year provisional members: Belhaven
*3rd year provisional members: none
2nd year provisional members: Brevard, Dean, Pfeiffer
1st year provisional members: SUNY-Delhi, Johnson and Wales (Col.)
Exploratory: Bob Jones, Pratt, University of St Thomas (TX), Mississippi University for Women.
*Games against Year 3 and 4 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Conference Changes Starting in 2019-2020
Alfred State leaves the ACAA for the AMCC
Benedictine leaves D3 for D2
Frostburg State leaves D3 for D2
Manhattanville leaves the MACF for the SKY
New Rochelle (IND) closes
Newbury (NECC) closes

Penn State-Harrisburg leaves the CAC for a return to the NEAC
Southern Vermont (NECC) closes
Staten Island leaves D3 for D2
Stevens leaves the E8 for the MACF
St. Elizabeth leaves the NEAC for the CSAC
SUNY-Delhi joins the NAC
Texas-Tyler leaves D3 for D2
Thomas More possibly leaves D3 for the NAIA

Conference Changes Starting in 2020-2021
Keuka leaves the NEAC for the E8

Three closures...
Three moves to D2...

Belhaven moves to Active status.

Down 5 schools...

Does that change the number of bids that we have in any sports?

KnightSlappy

#567
I think the access ratio is 6.5:1, so the magic number is 416.
Per the pre-championship manual we had 420 eligible institutions in 2019. Minus five is 415.
We might be in trouble for two years until Brevard, Dean, and Pfeiffer go to full membership. Unless another women's school goes coed this offseason.
Any chance the NCAA gives a grace period on bids? I'd hate to go back to 19 Pool C's.

Inkblot

Texas–Tyler is already in the first year of provisional D2 membership, so they shouldn't be counted as a loss for next year.
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KnightSlappy

Quote from: Inkblot on March 04, 2019, 05:41:38 PM
Texas–Tyler is already in the first year of provisional D2 membership, so they shouldn't be counted as a loss for next year.

It looks like you are correct. Texas-Tyler was already pulled out and accounted for in the 420 number, so right now we're looking at 416 schools for 2019-2020. That should be above the ratio line for 64 bids.