Conference changes

[Inkblot]

I posted this seven pages back:

Provisional Pipeline for 2019-2020
First year full members: Belhaven (confirmed)
*4th year provisional members: Brevard (confirmed), Dean (confirmed), Pfeiffer (confirmed)
*3rd year provisional members:  None
2nd year provisional members: SUNY Delhi, Johnson and Wales (Col.) (confirmed)
1st year provisional members: Pratt, University of St Thomas (TX), Mississippi University for Women.
Exploratory: Bob Jones, Warren Wilson
*Games against Year 3 and 4 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Conference Changes Starting in 2020-2021
Arcadia shifts from the MAC Commonwealth to the MAC Freedom
Cazenovia leaves the NEAC for the NAC
Eastern shifts from the MAC Freedom to the MAC Commonwealth
Dean leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Franciscan leaves the AMCC for the Presidents' Athletic Conference
Keuka leaves the NEAC for the E8
Lycoming shifts from the MAC Commonwealth to the MAC Freedom
Suffolk leaves the GNAC for the CCC
SUNY Cobleskill leaves the NEAC for the NAC
SUNY Delhi leaves the ACAA for the NAC
SUNY Poly leaves the NEAC for the NAC
Valley Forge leaves the ACAA for the CSAC
York (Pa.) leaves the CAC for the MAC Commonwealth

Conference Changes Starting in 2021-2022
Mary Baldwin will add men's program, begin play in the USA South (tentative)
Southern Virginia leaves the CAC for the USA South
St. Mary's (MD) leaves the CAC for the NEAC
St. Norbert leaves the MWC for the NACC
St. Thomas involuntarily removed from MIAC, will go to

[Greek Tragedy]

And I just bumped it yesterday. LOL

[Caz Bombers]

D3 membership committee February 2020 report: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d3/memb/Feb2020D3Memb_Report.pdf

Warren Wilson approved for provisional membership and Manor College, currently a JUCO (Jenkintown PA) for exploratory membership. Bob Jones University application for provisional membership was kicked back for the school to do additional work on the application.

D'Youville (AMCC) is leaving for Division II. It hopes to begin the transition process this summer.

Berea got a sports sponsorship waiver for canceling its baseball season due to team misconduct.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

D3 membership committee February 2020 report: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d3/memb/Feb2020D3Memb_Report.pdf

Warren Wilson approved for provisional membership and Manor College, currently a JUCO (Jenkintown PA) for exploratory membership. Bob Jones University application for provisional membership was kicked back for the school to do additional work on the application.

D'Youville (AMCC) is leaving for Division II. It hopes to begin the transition process this summer.

Berea got a sports sponsorship waiver for canceling its baseball season due to team misconduct.

We mentioned D'Youville on Hoopsville a few weeks back. Worst kept secret in the Buffalo area - thus how I found out.

They obviously have to be approved by DII which is likely. I got the sense they are living in a dream world that somehow they are going to suddenly become more competitive and get recruits they aren't getting now ... but if they can't be competitive in DIII, I highly doubt that changes in DII. Their problems with recruiting aren't the division.

[Caz Bombers]

D3 membership committee February 2020 report: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d3/memb/Feb2020D3Memb_Report.pdf

Warren Wilson approved for provisional membership and Manor College, currently a JUCO (Jenkintown PA) for exploratory membership. Bob Jones University application for provisional membership was kicked back for the school to do additional work on the application.

D'Youville (AMCC) is leaving for Division II. It hopes to begin the transition process this summer.

Berea got a sports sponsorship waiver for canceling its baseball season due to team misconduct.

We mentioned D'Youville on Hoopsville a few weeks back. Worst kept secret in the Buffalo area - thus how I found out.

They obviously have to be approved by DII which is likely. I got the sense they are living in a dream world that somehow they are going to suddenly become more competitive and get recruits they aren't getting now ... but if they can't be competitive in DIII, I highly doubt that changes in DII. Their problems with recruiting aren't the division.

well I'll be darned they joined the ECC on Monday.

https://dyouville.prestosports.com/general/2019-20/releases/20200302pu17b0

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Well they didn't "join" ... they have to be accepted by Division II and that decision won't happen until July.

Sure, they likely won't be turned down ... but at the same time, stranger things have happened.

[thebear]

Can't D-II offer some scholarship money? That can change some kids minds. 

I know that the children [three girls/one boy] of one of our Potsdam National Champion/Hall of Famers all went to and starred/were decent players at ECC D-II schools [Queens and New Haven]. 

The school's website says the son was awarded a "full athletic scholarship".

If I was offered a scholarship to play ball, that might make a school more attractive.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Can't D-II offer some scholarship money? That can change some kids minds. 

I know that the children [three girls/one boy] of one of our Potsdam National Champion/Hall of Famers all went to and starred/were decent players at ECC D-II schools [Queens and New Haven]. 

The school's website says the son was awarded a "full athletic scholarship".

If I was offered a scholarship to play ball, that might make a school more attractive.

Yes, but the money is limited ... and from what I have gathered, that isn't going to solve the problems. I have to go back to my notes with those I have chatted with .. but there needs to be an effort to recruit and now that they are in DII, they probably need to have a bigger footprint which I don't think D'Youville has ever really tried to have.

DIII students tend to get a lot more money in academics than DII gives out in money. Remember, scholarships are not full-rides. They can be divided up however a coach wants to split them up. So, sometimes you can say you got a scholarship to go to a DII school, but in reality you probably would have saved more (paid less) money going to DIII. There is a reason DIII students are known to turn down DI and DII offers - money being part of it.

If a DII school offers a "full ride" to anyone, they significantly affect their scholarship money for all their other recruits. The only sports in the NCAA where full-rides are mandatory are D1 football and men's and women's basketball. All other sports that offer scholarships can split them up. So you can have "8 scholarships," but that could mean you give money to 15 players if you want. None of them getting a full ride.

[Pat Coleman]

NCAA D-II schools can give 10 scholarships. That probably splits pretty well among 15 players if a school is fully funded.

For NAIA D-II, though, it's just six, and there we definitely see NAIA packages which are smaller than what D-III can offer in aid.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

My scholarship number was in quotes because I couldn't remember the number and didn't want to go look it up (put me in the weeds of researching other things LOL).

[AO]

If a DII school offers a "full ride" to anyone, they significantly affect their scholarship money for all their other recruits. The only sports in the NCAA where full-rides are mandatory are D1 football and men's and women's basketball. All other sports that offer scholarships can split them up. So you can have "8 scholarships," but that could mean you give money to 15 players if you want. None of them getting a full ride.

To make up for the greater number of football scholarships Women's tennis, gymnastics and volleyball are also "head count" sports where every scholarship given is a full scholarship. 

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

If a DII school offers a "full ride" to anyone, they significantly affect their scholarship money for all their other recruits. The only sports in the NCAA where full-rides are mandatory are D1 football and men's and women's basketball. All other sports that offer scholarships can split them up. So you can have "8 scholarships," but that could mean you give money to 15 players if you want. None of them getting a full ride.

To make up for the greater number of football scholarships Women's tennis, gymnastics and volleyball are also "head count" sports where every scholarship given is a full scholarship.

This is true ... I keep forgetting those three.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

MacMurray leaving the SLIAC due to closure ... immediately.

[jmcozenlaw]

MacMurray leaving the SLIAC due to closure ... immediately.

I know that Gordon wasn't talking about MacMurray on the show two weeks ago when he mentioned the issues at some Philadelphia area schools........including "one he works with". Keep your eyes out for that one (I think we both know who) as there is an "emergency conference call" next week to discuss "a significant matter".

You were right when you said that we'd be seeing some of this as time goes on.

[jmcozenlaw]

NCAA D-II schools can give 10 scholarships. That probably splits pretty well among 15 players if a school is fully funded.

For NAIA D-II, though, it's just six, and there we definitely see NAIA packages which are smaller than what D-III can offer in aid.

Pat, is there some flexibility though in that "10"? I know some head coaches in the PSAC (football and a couple of basketball) and I know that I.U.P has a very well funded football program from various sources and that a couple of teams on the Eastern side of PA joke about how they can't compete from a scholarship (one called them 'units') standpoint against I.U.P., Slippery Rock and Cal U. 10 doesn't sound like a huge advantage................unless the complaining coaches have 1.