Conference changes

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Quote from: HOPEful on November 29, 2017, 12:21:01 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 29, 2017, 11:56:10 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2017, 10:43:03 AM
Ok, just read the last run-on sentence. Is a team like Dean a D3 team that has their stats count as D3 stats, unlike an NAIA team or D2 team. In our fantasy leagues, our teams have to be D3 playing against D3 opponents. Would teams in 1st and 2nd year provisional status qualify, discount post season eligiblity altogether. Thanks.

I have no idea how you are doing your fantasy... that is up to you. They are DIII institutions, but going through the process to be full-members. (At any point in that process something goes sideways, they are out.) Thus being in the first two years, the NCAA does not count the games per regional rankings, at-large, etc. The stats still count, but they are not eligible for post-season or for teams to count towards their own data essentially.

Feels like there are two different conversations. How the NCAA does things and how the fantasy rules are setup.

I think it's the same question, with a complicated answer. Do the games "count"? Emerson is currently 4-1.

If they were to get to the table, would the committee consider them to currently be 3-1 in D3 and discredit the game against Dean? I think the answer to that question is probably your answer for whether or not to count the games for fantasy.

The committee would consider Emerson to be 2-1 in the primary criteria; 4-1_in the secondary criteria.  Fisher is NAIA-D2, while Dean is 1st year provisional.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

That is how the committee will consider them. The games would be in secondary.

There was a time all four years would be like that, but conferences picking these teams up and making them part of the conference schedule became problematic (CAC a few years back comes to mind). So, it was amended to the first two years and the last two they could count.
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HOPEful

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2017, 12:59:25 PM
Thanks again and I'll try not to pollute this board with any more fantasy nonsense!
Sounds like the games count the same as games against NAIA, D2, etc... I would say they shouldn't count in fantasy.

I understand that not everyone cares about fantasy sports. But Greek, everyone who loves d3 basketball and wants to see it grow should love that you run so many fantasy leagues. Do you think I'd care at all about Pfeiffer's provisional status if not for fantasy? But you and I both know that they play Greensboro and NC Wesleyan multiple times this season. My knowledge of D3 basketball outside of the Great Lakes region has increased dramatically due merely to fantasy. And I'm guessing I'm not the only one. Endicott fans cheering on Whitman players, IWU fans cheering for Greenville players, and Wooster fans cheering for Centenary players... Fantasy equals more exposure, however limited. Whether you like playing or not, the fact that this West Michigander and Hope alum/fan was excitedly cheering on Austin Cole and Cal Lutheran going against George Fox on Monday night from clear across the country, is enough reason that EVERYONE on this board should love fantasy. Especially the moderators.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

I guess this is as good a place for this as any: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/01/benedictine-looking-to-d2

Benedictine and Texas-Tyler are applying for DII membership. A lot still needs to happen before it is a reality, but keeping all in the loop.
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: HOPEful on November 29, 2017, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2017, 12:59:25 PM
Thanks again and I'll try not to pollute this board with any more fantasy nonsense!
Sounds like the games count the same as games against NAIA, D2, etc... I would say they shouldn't count in fantasy.

I understand that not everyone cares about fantasy sports. But Greek, everyone who loves d3 basketball and wants to see it grow should love that you run so many fantasy leagues.

Most of those who love D3 basketball and want to see it grow aren't aware that Mrs. Greek is the most long-suffering wife in eastern Wisconsin and that Tom is completely nuts. :D ;)
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Greek Tragedy

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 16, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: HOPEful on November 29, 2017, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2017, 12:59:25 PM
Thanks again and I'll try not to pollute this board with any more fantasy nonsense!
Sounds like the games count the same as games against NAIA, D2, etc... I would say they shouldn't count in fantasy.

I understand that not everyone cares about fantasy sports. But Greek, everyone who loves d3 basketball and wants to see it grow should love that you run so many fantasy leagues.

Most of those who love D3 basketball and want to see it grow aren't aware that Mrs. Greek is the most long-suffering wife in eastern Wisconsin and that Tom is completely nuts. :D ;)

Well, I am completely nuts. Funny how I just saw this post today. Anyway, I played Fantasy Football for over 20 years, including the first 8 years of our marriage. I stopped two years ago. So, my wife gets me for an extra 3 months since the draft for football was mid-August and D3 Hoops doesn't start until mid-November.
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 02, 2018, 11:38:23 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 16, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: HOPEful on November 29, 2017, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2017, 12:59:25 PM
Thanks again and I'll try not to pollute this board with any more fantasy nonsense!
Sounds like the games count the same as games against NAIA, D2, etc... I would say they shouldn't count in fantasy.

I understand that not everyone cares about fantasy sports. But Greek, everyone who loves d3 basketball and wants to see it grow should love that you run so many fantasy leagues.

Most of those who love D3 basketball and want to see it grow aren't aware that Mrs. Greek is the most long-suffering wife in eastern Wisconsin and that Tom is completely nuts. :D ;)

Well, I am completely nuts. Funny how I just saw this post today.

No wonder you didn't see it until today. You have all of those fantasy leagues to run. ;)
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 16, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
I guess this is as good a place for this as any: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/01/benedictine-looking-to-d2

Benedictine and Texas-Tyler are applying for DII membership. A lot still needs to happen before it is a reality, but keeping all in the loop.
Applications submitted.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 09, 2018, 05:52:16 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 16, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
I guess this is as good a place for this as any: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/01/benedictine-looking-to-d2

Benedictine and Texas-Tyler are applying for DII membership. A lot still needs to happen before it is a reality, but keeping all in the loop.
Applications submitted.

Yes... as reported in another spot on the boards. :)
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

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Onward on, John Carroll

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 09, 2018, 12:08:46 PM
SCAC will get larger - to no one's surprise: http://denver.jwuathletics.com/general/2017-18/releases/20180208olrm19

I always forget about the geography of some of our D3 conferences around the country. . . I will stop complaining about the length of JCU's trip to Ada.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Onward on, John Carroll on February 09, 2018, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 09, 2018, 12:08:46 PM
SCAC will get larger - to no one's surprise: http://denver.jwuathletics.com/general/2017-18/releases/20180208olrm19

I always forget about the geography of some of our D3 conferences around the country. . . I will stop complaining about the length of JCU's trip to Ada.

Bingo. :)
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KnightSlappy

#387
Conference Changes Starting in 2017-2018
Alfred State joins the newly formed ACAA
Berea joins the USAC
Brevard joins the USAC (1st year provisional in 2017-18)
Daniel Webster closes its doors
Dean joins the NECC (1st year provisional in 2017-18)
Finlandia joins the ACAA
Ithaca leaves the E8 for the LL
Maine-Presque Isle joins the ACAA
Pine Manor joins the ACAA
Regis leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Rust leaves Division III for the NAIA
Sage leaves the SKY for the E8
SUNY-Canton joins the ACAA
Valley Forge joins the ACAA
Pfeiffer joins the USAC (1st year provisional in 2017-18)

Provisional Pipeline for 2017-2018
First year full members: Berea, Bryn Athyn, Penn College
*4th year provisional members:  Alfred State, Illinois Tech, Iowa Wesleyan, McMurry (reclassifying)
*3rd year provisional members: Belhaven
2nd year provisional members: none
1st year provisional members: Brevard (reclassifying), Dean, Pfeiffer (reclassifying)
Exploratory: SUNY-Delhi, Johnson and Wales (Col.), Mississippi University for Women (no men's basketball program)
*Games against Year 3 and 4 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Conference Changes Starting in 2018-2019
Bryn Athyn leaves the NEAC for the CSAC
Cabrini leaves the CSAC for the AEC?
Castleton leaves the NAC for the LEC
Colby-Sawyer leaves the NAC for the GNAC
Eastern Nazarene leaves the CCC for the NECC
Ferrum leaves the USAC for the ODAC
Green Mountain leaves the NAC and D3 for the NAIA
Gwynedd Mercy leaves the CSAC for the AEC?
Illinois Tech joins the NACC
Immaculata leaves the CSAC for the AEC?
Johnson and Wales (Col.) joins the SCAC (1st year provisional in 2018-19)
Maine-Presque Isle leaves the ACAA for the NAC
Marymount leaves the CAC for the AEC?
Marywood leaves the CSAC for the AEC?
Neumann leaves the CSAC for the AEC?
New England College leaves the NAC for the NECC
St. Joseph (Conn.) adds men's basketball in the GNAC
SUNY Canton leaves the ACAA for the NAC
Thomas More leaves the PAC for ?
Wesley leaves the CAC for the AEC?
Wheelock (NECC) discontinues athletics, school merges with Boston U
Wilson leaves the NEAC for the CSAC

Conference Changes Starting in 2019-2020
Arcadia leaves the MACC for the AEC?

mailsy

Just to let you know Cabrini, Gwynedd, Immaculata, Marymount, Marywood, Neumann and Wesley are joining(forming) the new conference called the Atlantic East Conference. From my understanding Arcadia is staying in the MAC and not joining until the 2019-20 school year
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