Conference changes

[hopefan]

just wanted to check...SUNY-Delhi is listed (in Gordon Mann's post of Aug 30) as going to the NAC in 2020-21............ They are not included as a member of the Men's ACAA conference for 2019-20 on the ACAA site (they are not in the 2019-20 standings nor in the ACAA Men's Season-long Schedule), though their women are listed as WBB members..  So is SUNY Delhi an Independent in 2019-20?   I just want to make sure I'm not missing something....

Found the answer.. from Delhi... The Conference site is in error for not listing them... will be corrected....They are an ACAA member this year....

[Inkblot]

UC Santa Cruz is now an AAU member: https://www.aau.edu/newsroom/press-releases/three-leading-research-universities-join-association-american-universities

[WUPHF]

Yes, the AAU...

It is good for the school but it is hard to imagine how it impacts varsity athletics.

[gordonmann]

Bump

Provisional Pipeline for 2019-2020
First year full members: Belhaven (confirmed)
*4th year provisional members: Brevard (confirmed), Dean (confirmed), Pfeiffer (confirmed)
*3rd year provisional members:  None
2nd year provisional members: SUNY Delhi, Johnson and Wales (Col.) (confirmed)
1st year provisional members: Pratt, University of St Thomas (TX), Mississippi University for Women.
Exploratory: Bob Jones, Warren Wilson
*Games against Year 3 and 4 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Conference Changes Starting in 2019-2020
Alfred State leaves the ACAA for the AMCC
UC-Santa Cruz joins the ACAA
Frostburg State leaves D3 for D2
Manhattanville leaves the MACF for the SKY
New Rochelle (IND) closes
Newbury (NECC) closes
Penn State-Harrisburg leaves the CAC for a return to the NEAC
Southern Vermont (NECC) closes
Staten Island leaves D3 for D2 (CSI will still honor its CUNYAC schedule but is a provisional D2 member)
Stevens leaves the E8 for the MACF
St. Elizabeth leaves the NEAC for the CSAC
Texas-Tyler leaves D3 for D2
Thomas More leaves D3 for the NAIA

Side note: Simmons discontinues its women's program

Conference Changes Starting in 2020-2021
Arcadia shifts from the MAC Commonwealth to the MAC Freedom
Cazenovia leaves the NEAC for the NAC
Eastern shifts from the MAC Freedom to the MAC Commonwealth
Dean leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Franciscan leaves the AMCC for the Presidents' Athletic Conference
Keuka leaves the NEAC for the E8
Lycoming shifts from the MAC Commonwealth to the MAC Freedom
Suffolk leaves the GNAC for the CCC
SUNY Cobleskill leaves the NEAC for the NAC
SUNY Dehli leaves the ACAA for the NAC
SUNY Poly leaves the NEAC for the NAC
Valley Forge leaves the ACAA for the CSAC
York (Pa.) leaves the CAC for the MAC Commonwealth

Conference Changes Starting in 2021-2022
Mary Baldwin will add men's program, begin play in the USA South (tentative)
St. Norbert leaves the MWC for the NACC
St. Thomas involuntarily removed from MIAC, will go to

[hopefan]

Of the three first year provisionals, St. Thomas Texas plays a full D3 schedule (22 games) and a full SCAC home and away schedule... they were even included in the pre season SCAC poll............  Pratt and Mississippi Women do not play a D3 schedule....

I'm curious why St. T is not listed as a D3 school therefore in D3hoops regional listings and on the scoreboard, with a link to their site...the same thing happened to SUNY-Delhi last year though they played a full D3 schedule and were allowed to take part in the ACCA tourney...I am thinking that St. T's games in the SCAC probably don't count in the standings, but given the nature of their schedule, I think it makes sense to consider them a D3 team on these pages.....Second year provisionals JWU-Denver and SUNY Delhi are now included...

For the purpose of my W/l versus D3 non-conference teams, I will include St. Thomas as an SCAC-D3 member..

I also see that through today, Texas Tyler is still listed as a D3 team, which seems to be in error... there score appeared on the scoreboard last night, but got caught by D3hoops and deleted.... need to get them out of the system.....

[Pat Coleman]

Yes, we probably will. Typically we don't include all first-year provisionals because of the number that wash out at that point, and because we would be putting ourselves on the hook for collecting all of those scores. Typically those schools don't play a lot of D-III's.

STTX is an exception to that and we'll get there.

You can always just email things you think are errors, as always. Posting here isn't the best way to reach a D3sports.com person.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Of the three first year provisionals, St. Thomas Texas plays a full D3 schedule (22 games) and a full SCAC home and away schedule... they were even included in the pre season SCAC poll............  Pratt and Mississippi Women do not play a D3 schedule....

I'm curious why St. T is not listed as a D3 school therefore in D3hoops regional listings and on the scoreboard, with a link to their site...the same thing happened to SUNY-Delhi last year though they played a full D3 schedule and were allowed to take part in the ACCA tourney...I am thinking that St. T's games in the SCAC probably don't count in the standings, but given the nature of their schedule, I think it makes sense to consider them a D3 team on these pages.....Second year provisionals JWU-Denver and SUNY Delhi are now included...

For the purpose of my W/l versus D3 non-conference teams, I will include St. Thomas as an SCAC-D3 member..

I also see that through today, Texas Tyler is still listed as a D3 team, which seems to be in error... there score appeared on the scoreboard last night, but got caught by D3hoops and deleted.... need to get them out of the system.....

SCAC has had provisionals count in the standings before. There was a season a few years ago when either the team that made the NCAA tournament had LOST in the conference title game, but was the regular season best team and given the AQ ... or there was a chance of it happening. I think it involved Trinity TX. Who they were playing was not eligible for the NCAA tournament, but they were involved in the SCAC and such.

I could be confusing it with a program maybe in its third or fourth season in DIII when more is included, but Centenary (La.) comes to mind.

[jeffconn]

Southern Virginia U to join USA South in 2021, leaving the Capital Athletic Conference with four just public colleges. Start shoveling the dirt, the CAC is dead.
https://www.usasouth.net/general/2019-20/releases/20191206o7zom0

[Inkblot]

Any chance they can get the NJAC to take in the survivors?

[Ralph Turner]

With SVU joining in 2021-22, how close is the USA South to splitting into 2 conferences and permitting the "seceding" schools to remain as affiliates in those sports for which the seceding conference would not have an AQ?

Warren Wilson and Bob Jones are in the pipeline and even MUW, if the conference wants to expand 3 hours in a westward direction.  MUW would be the "Sul Ross State" of the USA South.

Provisional Pipeline for 2019-2020

*4th year provisional members: Brevard (confirmed), Dean (confirmed), Pfeiffer (confirmed)

1st year provisional members: ... Mississippi University for Women.
Exploratory: Bob Jones, Warren Wilson

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Any chance they can get the NJAC to take in the survivors?

No. Their charter doesn't allow full-time members to be outside of New Jersey. I know it has been considered and they may take applications (if schools want to spend the money), but they won't take them.

Furthermore, there is no way you are going to convince schools in the NJAC to travel down to Fredericksburg, Salisbury, and Newport News - especially in double-round robin sports.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Another announcement is coming. The CAC will be down to three schools by 2021-22. Announcement could come as early as Thursday morning (should have been out by now).

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

And the CAC is already on the Pool A clock now because they have just 6 this season. They'll be in Pool B in 21-22 if they try to survive so they don't have the luxury of having plenty of time to bolster their ranks.

Assuming St Mary's is the one who will make the announcement (since the three listed in the post prior didn't include them) I think the best fits for the remaining schools geographically would be CNU and Mary Washington to the ODAC and Salisbury to the CC.

[jeffconn]

And the CAC is already on the Pool A clock now because they have just 6 this season. They'll be in Pool B in 21-22 if they try to survive so they don't have the luxury of having plenty of time to bolster their ranks.

Assuming St Mary's is the one who will make the announcement (since the three listed in the post prior didn't include them) I think the best fits for the remaining schools geographically would be CNU and Mary Washington to the ODAC and Salisbury to the CC.

One problem with that is CNU, Mary Washington, and Salisbury are state schools, and all the schools in the ODAC are small private colleges. Same issue with the USA South, the Centennial, and the Atlantic East. The only option for these schools might be joining the Allegheny Mountain or North Eastern conferences. Either way, Mary Washington and CNU would be WAY outside the footprints of the conferences.

[jeffconn]

With SVU joining in 2021-22, how close is the USA South to splitting into 2 conferences and permitting the "seceding" schools to remain as affiliates in those sports for which the seceding conference would not have an AQ?

Warren Wilson and Bob Jones are in the pipeline and even MUW, if the conference wants to expand 3 hours in a westward direction.  MUW would be the "Sul Ross State" of the USA South.

Not that likely. After SVU joins, USA South will have 14 co-ed schools and 5 women's colleges. Most of the schools sponsor the minimum number of sports that they need to be D3. If one co-ed school goes under or moves to NAIA or D2, then that will put any conference split in a bind. And the NCAA isn't about to allow the USA South to become a hybrid conference like the MAC.