Conference changes

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CNU85

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 23, 2020, 11:54:25 AM
First off - my first comment had nothing to do with the second.

The first one about where they got the idea of eight-teams in the building is a bit close for comfort ... since I have talked to them about a tournament there and that is my exact model.

That's why I labeled my replies 1 and 2. I know the comments were not related

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VT-Alum-NOVA

ACAA merge with CAC, wow .... wonder which "region" or multi-region the new CAC(?) belongs in once d3 goes to 10 regions for bball?
Are we sure new CAC keeps AQ even though most will never play each other during regular season?  Only thing I found on AQ qualification is 70% regular season games against conference members.  http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/diii-championships-committee-shifts-approach-regional-realignment
If no min regular season games vs conference members, maybe new CAC decides AQ with conference tourney rotated by different schools?  In bball, I could see seeding by overall record or massey rating for seeding.  lots to be ironed out.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

As I said on Hoopsville ... it does not sound like any effort to add a in-season playing requirement is going anywhere within DIII ... so, the only requirement is the 7 members. What you found in an article has gone no where.
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Inkblot

If the merger goes through, that'll give the conference seven men's basketball teams.
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CNU85

(Note: I'm posting based on my memory from several months ago -- so I'm sure I'm messing up some facts. Dave- correct me where I err).

Not too long ago I did an analysis of the sports offered in the ACAA and CAC. There are some current ACAA teams that will be gone after this year. If memory serves me right this issue only resolves 6 sports for current CAC members. Most schools offer over 20 sports. So only about a 1/3 of the issues are resolved. The requirement for in conference games for an AQ was put on hold several months ago. Work still needs to be done for many sports such as baseball.

In my opinion, this is a band aid. But sometimes band aids will temporarily be of benefit until the longer term solution is figured out.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Inkblot on January 24, 2020, 12:41:28 AM
If the merger goes through, that'll give the conference seven men's basketball teams.

After next season.  Pratt doesn't count until its in year three.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 24, 2020, 10:36:14 AM
Quote from: Inkblot on January 24, 2020, 12:41:28 AM
If the merger goes through, that'll give the conference seven men's basketball teams.

After next season.  Pratt doesn't count until its in year three.

And of course next year SMC and SVU are still in the "CAC" ... so it doesn't really matter.
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CNU85

Hey Dave,

Any additional Post-Hoopsville news on the merger?




Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: CNU85 on January 24, 2020, 03:51:43 PM
Hey Dave,

Any additional Post-Hoopsville news on the merger?

Not as of yet. I am asking around and have many sources that could cull more info for me. If I have more info, I will likely tweet it or announce it on the show first (or second)... only because the boards aren't my first place to go with that info when I get it.
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CNU85

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2020, 03:52:42 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on January 24, 2020, 03:51:43 PM
Hey Dave,

Any additional Post-Hoopsville news on the merger?

Not as of yet. I am asking around and have many sources that could cull more info for me. If I have more info, I will likely tweet it or announce it on the show first (or second)... only because the boards aren't my first place to go with that info when I get it.

Cool beans. I guess this old guy will pay more attention to Twitter!

VT-Alum-NOVA

Dave,
Anyway SMC or SVU NOT leave CAC?  like you said, pulled rip cord too quick.  maybe a way to stuff parachute back?

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on January 24, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Dave,
Anyway SMC or SVU NOT leave CAC?  like you said, pulled rip cord too quick.  maybe a way to stuff parachute back?

SVU - no.

SMC - maybe ... but I doubt it.
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Provisional Pipeline for 2019-2020
First year full members: Belhaven (confirmed)
*4th year provisional members: Brevard (confirmed), Dean (confirmed), Pfeiffer (confirmed)
*3rd year provisional members:  None
2nd year provisional members: SUNY Delhi, Johnson and Wales (Col.) (confirmed)
1st year provisional members: Pratt, University of St Thomas (TX), Mississippi University for Women.
Exploratory: Bob Jones, Warren Wilson
*Games against Year 3 and 4 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Conference Changes Starting in 2019-2020
Alfred State leaves the ACAA for the AMCC
UC-Santa Cruz joins the ACAA
Frostburg State leaves D3 for D2
Manhattanville leaves the MACF for the SKY
New Rochelle (IND) closes
Newbury (NECC) closes
Penn State-Harrisburg leaves the CAC for a return to the NEAC
Southern Vermont (NECC) closes
Staten Island leaves D3 for D2 (CSI will still honor its CUNYAC schedule but is a provisional D2 member)
Stevens leaves the E8 for the MACF
St. Elizabeth leaves the NEAC for the CSAC
Texas-Tyler leaves D3 for D2
Thomas More leaves D3 for the NAIA

Side note: Simmons discontinues its women's program

Conference Changes Starting in 2020-2021
Arcadia shifts from the MAC Commonwealth to the MAC Freedom
Cazenovia leaves the NEAC for the NAC
Eastern shifts from the MAC Freedom to the MAC Commonwealth
Dean leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Franciscan leaves the AMCC for the Presidents' Athletic Conference
Keuka leaves the NEAC for the E8
Lycoming shifts from the MAC Commonwealth to the MAC Freedom
Suffolk leaves the GNAC for the CCC
SUNY Cobleskill leaves the NEAC for the NAC
SUNY Dehli leaves the ACAA for the NAC
SUNY Poly leaves the NEAC for the NAC
Valley Forge leaves the ACAA for the CSAC
York (Pa.) leaves the CAC for the MAC Commonwealth

Conference Changes Starting in 2021-2022
Mary Baldwin will add men's program, begin play in the USA South (tentative)
St. Norbert leaves the MWC for the NACC
St. Thomas involuntarily removed from MIAC, will go to ???
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SVU leaves the CAC for USA South.
St. Mary's of Maryland leaves the CAC for the North Eastern AC.