Conference changes

[Gregory Sager]

Dave is breaking news on twitter right now that Allegheny will move to the President's Conference in 22-23.

I've always wondered why Allegheny has chosen not to be in the PAC.

This is actually a homecoming for Allegheny. The Gators were an early addition to the infant PAC, joining the league three years after it had been founded in 1955. Allegheny remained in the PAC for 25 years, leaving after the 1983-84 season to become one of the founding members of the NCAC.

Dave is breaking news on twitter right now that Allegheny will move to the President's Conference in 22-23.

I've always wondered why Allegheny has chosen not to be in the PAC...  It's a move that makes so much sense.... great rivalries with next door neighbors such as Grove City and Westminster.... the conference is one that gets little notice on these pages, but one that is a very pure D3 with its beautiful small town atmospheres...

Probably had to do with NCAC being a stronger conference both in sports and academic rankings. I guess after nearly 40 years, the much shorter travel in the PAC, plus inability to keep up competitively with DePauw, Witt, Woo, Wabash, tipped the scales the other way.

EDIT: also the PAC has Case and Mellon in football, so obviously those academics are just as and probably more excellent.

Well put, Caz. The whole principle of being in an academically elite D3 league is mitigated to some degree if it's too geographically spread out (unless you're talking about the UAA, with its unique protocol of sending proctors to fly with teams to other UAA cities in order to administer tests). How can you claim to put academics first if your student-athletes have to spend so many hours on long busrides to other conference campuses? Losing Allegheny will probably be seen as a plus by the likes of Indiana-based Wabash and DePauw, regardless of Allegheny's relative athletic competitiveness.

[WUPHF]

The whole principle of being in an academically elite D3 league is mitigated to some degree if it's too geographically spread out (unless you're talking about the UAA, with its unique protocol of sending proctors to fly with teams to other UAA cities in order to administer tests).

I don't think that happens.

A team loses one school day playing against the travel partner and approximately two days for each Friday / Sunday road trip so we are only talking 6-7 school days away from home during league play.

[Greek Tragedy]

So the NECC is really down to just 5 teams? Sorry, been out of the loop for the last year.

[Caz Bombers]

So the NECC is really down to just 5 teams? Sorry, been out of the loop for the last year.

worse than that...4.

[deiscanton]

So the NECC is really down to just 5 teams? Sorry, been out of the loop for the last year.

NECC only has 4 teams left.  (Lesley, E. Nazarene, Mitchell, and NE College.) 

Dean and Elms are now in GNAC; Bay Path left the NCAA; Becker closed for good at the end of June.

[Greek Tragedy]

Ok. Thanks. In the teams by region page, Becker was still listed.

I'm hoping that's the only mistake! I posted all the conferences and teams in the fantasy league board based on the teams by region pages.

[Inkblot]

Ok. Thanks. In the teams by region page, Becker was still listed.

I'm hoping that's the only mistake! I posted all the conferences and teams in the fantasy league board based on the teams by region pages.

I just looked over the list, and there were just a few errors I noticed:

* Manhattanville has moved from the MAC Freedom to the Skyline
* Lynchburg is missing from the list
* Asbury is a year-1 provisional D3 member (independent)
* Wesley athletics no longer exist due to acquisition by Delaware State

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Ok. Thanks. In the teams by region page, Becker was still listed.

I'm hoping that's the only mistake! I posted all the conferences and teams in the fantasy league board based on the teams by region pages.

I just looked over the list, and there were just a few errors I noticed:

* Manhattanville has moved from the MAC Freedom to the Skyline
* Lynchburg is missing from the list
* Asbury is a year-1 provisional D3 member (independent)
* Wesley athletics no longer exist due to acquisition by Delaware State

We've been debating how to best organize those regional pages with the realignment happening - they should be updated soon.

As far as I know, the NECC is planning to play a triple round robin for basketball - nine conference games for each team - this year.  It's unlikely there will be an NECC after 2021-22.

[Caz Bombers]

Ok. Thanks. In the teams by region page, Becker was still listed.

I'm hoping that's the only mistake! I posted all the conferences and teams in the fantasy league board based on the teams by region pages.

I just looked over the list, and there were just a few errors I noticed:

* Manhattanville has moved from the MAC Freedom to the Skyline
* Lynchburg is missing from the list
* Asbury is a year-1 provisional D3 member (independent)
* Wesley athletics no longer exist due to acquisition by Delaware State

We've been debating how to best organize those regional pages with the realignment happening - they should be updated soon.

As far as I know, the NECC is planning to play a triple round robin for basketball - nine conference games for each team - this year.  It's unlikely there will be an NECC after 2021-22.

Ryan, you seem to be more plugged in than most on this conference, so what do you think will become of the remaining four schools? Will they go somewhere together or go their own separate ways?

[Gregory Sager]

The whole principle of being in an academically elite D3 league is mitigated to some degree if it's too geographically spread out (unless you're talking about the UAA, with its unique protocol of sending proctors to fly with teams to other UAA cities in order to administer tests).

I don't think that happens.

A team loses one school day playing against the travel partner and approximately two days for each Friday / Sunday road trip so we are only talking 6-7 school days away from home during league play.

Chicago, at least, has proctors accompany its teams. I'll admit that I probably overstepped my UAA knowledge base in assuming that other conference schools do it, too.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Ok. Thanks. In the teams by region page, Becker was still listed.

I'm hoping that's the only mistake! I posted all the conferences and teams in the fantasy league board based on the teams by region pages.

I just looked over the list, and there were just a few errors I noticed:

* Manhattanville has moved from the MAC Freedom to the Skyline
* Lynchburg is missing from the list
* Asbury is a year-1 provisional D3 member (independent)
* Wesley athletics no longer exist due to acquisition by Delaware State

We've been debating how to best organize those regional pages with the realignment happening - they should be updated soon.

As far as I know, the NECC is planning to play a triple round robin for basketball - nine conference games for each team - this year.  It's unlikely there will be an NECC after 2021-22.

Ryan, you seem to be more plugged in than most on this conference, so what do you think will become of the remaining four schools? Will they go somewhere together or go their own separate ways?

I have no direct knowledge, but I believe pretty strongly they've exhausted their options when it comes to attracting new teams. I get the distinct feeling it's every school for themselves. This is pure speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of them rode out a year or two in the C2C waiting for the next shuffle to happen. We'll probably see more movement in NE when Hartford picks a conference.

[Ralph Turner]

Ryan, which conference do you see as the best mission/vision match for Hartford?

I found this article in Hartford Courant.

https://www.courant.com/sports/hc-sp-clb-uhart-athletics-20210417-20210416-k7mdbwbgiraopn2lktdwzebxwi-story.html

(CCC, NEWMAC or possibly the LEC)

[Greek Tragedy]

Ok. Thanks. In the teams by region page, Becker was still listed.

I'm hoping that's the only mistake! I posted all the conferences and teams in the fantasy league board based on the teams by region pages.

I just looked over the list, and there were just a few errors I noticed:

* Manhattanville has moved from the MAC Freedom to the Skyline
* Lynchburg is missing from the list
* Asbury is a year-1 provisional D3 member (independent)
* Wesley athletics no longer exist due to acquisition by Delaware State

Thanks!

[gordonmann]

Thanks.

I made the corrections to Wesley, Lynchburg, Manhattanville and Becker.

We don't usually post first-year provisional so the Jukes of Asbury will have to wait a year.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Ryan, which conference do you see as the best mission/vision match for Hartford?

I found this article in Hartford Courant.

https://www.courant.com/sports/hc-sp-clb-uhart-athletics-20210417-20210416-k7mdbwbgiraopn2lktdwzebxwi-story.html

(CCC, NEWMAC or possibly the LEC)

They'd love to be in the NEWMAC, but I don't think that's happening. I'm hearing possibly the CCC with one other school, likely out of the GNAC to keep numbers even.