Conference changes

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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: jeffconn on February 16, 2022, 10:21:57 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 16, 2022, 03:04:17 PM


https://d3sports.com/notables/2022/02/usa-south-to-split-in-two

So, if the split happens, Bob Jones and Asbury to the CCS? Warren Wilson and Johnson & Wales to the USA South?

No ... from what I'm told, first there will be at least a year before the CCS welcomes in anyone new ... and I don't think these schools are slam dunks to those conferences. First off, Bob Jones I think is rubbing some schools the wrong way with their religious restrictions and such. They should have already found a home by now ... and haven't. I think that is telling. Also, Asbury isn't going to the CCS from everything I've been told. Maybe the HCAC? But even that might be a stretch. J&W to the USA South... possibly. And I think Warren Wilson maybe ends up actually in the CCS.

There are others like MUW, Lynn that will find their way into homes ... ASC maybe for Lynn; CCS for MUW (after a brief stint in the SLIAC).

The only other thing is maybe the USA South is waiting for this split to announce new members. That is the only part of this I haven't been able to nail down.
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Inkblot

Provisional Pipeline for 2021-22
Full membership fall 2021: SUNY-Delhi
*3rd year provisional members (full membership fall 2022): Pratt, University of St Thomas (Texas)
2nd year provisional members (full membership fall 2023): Bob Jones, Mississippi University for Women, Warren Wilson
1st year provisional members: Asbury
Exploratory: Johnson & Wales (Charlotte)

* Games against Year 3 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Lyon applying for exploratory membership and expedited provisional membership in 2022

Becker College closed, leaves the NECC
Wesley athletic programs discontinued in merger with Delaware State, leaves AEC

Conference Changes Starting in 2021-2022
Bay Path leaves the NECC and NCAA for the USCAA
Centenary (NJ) leaves the CSAC for the AEC
Elms leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Emory & Henry leaves ODAC for Division II
Iowa Wesleyan leaves SLIAC and NCAA for NAIA
Louisiana College leaves ASC and NCAA for NAIA
Mary Baldwin will add men's program, begin play in the USA South
Southern Virginia leaves the C2C for the USA South
St. Mary's (Md.) leaves the C2C for the UEC
St. Norbert leaves the MWC for the NACC
St. Thomas involuntarily removed from MIAC, will join Division I (Summit League)
St. Scholastica leaves the UMAC for the MIAC

Conference Changes Starting in 2022-2023
Allegheny leaves the NCAC for the PAC
Averett leaves the USAC for the ODAC
Mississippi University for Women (MUW) will join the SLIAC
Medaille leaves the AMCC for the Empire 8
Belhaven leaves the ASC for the Collegiate Conference of the South
Agnes Scott, Berea, Covenant, Huntingdon, LaGrange, Maryville, Piedmont, and Wesleyan (GA) leave the USAC for the Collegiate Conference of the South

Conference Changes Starting in 2023-2024
Lycoming leaves the MAC Freedom for the Landmark
Wilkes leaves the MAC Freedom for the Landmark
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Inkblot

Occurs to me that the NECC is likely to lose Pool A status in 2023–24, which would probably guarantee a Pool B for that season.
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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Inkblot on February 23, 2022, 11:11:40 PM
Occurs to me that the NECC is likely to lose Pool A status in 2023–24, which would probably guarantee a Pool B for that season.

I believe they lose it this summer, although I suspect those teams will either find new homes or enough new members.
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Inkblot

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 23, 2022, 11:30:34 PM
Quote from: Inkblot on February 23, 2022, 11:11:40 PM
Occurs to me that the NECC is likely to lose Pool A status in 2023–24, which would probably guarantee a Pool B for that season.

I believe they lose it this summer, although I suspect those teams will either find new homes or enough new members.

Ah yes, that's right. They were at 6 men's basketball members in the 2021 (non-)season.
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Greek Tragedy

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 23, 2022, 11:30:34 PM
Quote from: Inkblot on February 23, 2022, 11:11:40 PM
Occurs to me that the NECC is likely to lose Pool A status in 2023–24, which would probably guarantee a Pool B for that season.

I believe they lose it this summer, although I suspect those teams will either find new homes or enough new members.

They don't get a "credit" for the lost season?
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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 24, 2022, 05:37:01 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 23, 2022, 11:30:34 PM
Quote from: Inkblot on February 23, 2022, 11:11:40 PM
Occurs to me that the NECC is likely to lose Pool A status in 2023–24, which would probably guarantee a Pool B for that season.

I believe they lose it this summer, although I suspect those teams will either find new homes or enough new members.

They don't get a "credit" for the lost season?

I'm honestly not sure how that works with covid.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

From what I've been told ... no, the lost season is not "credited" as the behind-the-scenes stuff of trying to keep numbers of a conference up or make other moves didn't necessarily stop because of COVID.
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Caz Bombers

Morrisville (United East) and Lesley (NECC) to NAC in 2023-24. Heck of a rebuilding job by the NAC getting up to 14 members.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Caz Bombers on March 01, 2022, 01:24:36 PM
Morrisville (United East) and Lesley (NECC) to NAC in 2023-24. Heck of a rebuilding job by the NAC getting up to 14 members.

Morrisville was part of the discussions last increase by the NAC when hey brought in members form the NEAC/UEC. It is a bit complicated, but it sounds like opinions have shifted and Morrisville is now entering.

This has been part of the larger NAC plan for a few years now.
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Ralph Turner

Dave McHugh,

Where do Eastern Nazarene, Mitchell and New England College land now?

Thanks.

Inkblot

The NAC went from a Massachusetts private schools conference (plus Maine Maritime) to a ME-NH-VT conference to a half Maine, half New York conference with the NVUs bridging the gap. And now we have founding member Lesley rejoining.
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Inkblot

Provisional Pipeline for 2021-22
Full membership fall 2021: SUNY-Delhi
*3rd year provisional members (full membership fall 2022): Pratt, University of St Thomas (Texas)
2nd year provisional members (full membership fall 2023): Bob Jones, Mississippi University for Women, Warren Wilson
1st year provisional members: Asbury
Exploratory: Johnson & Wales (Charlotte)

* Games against Year 3 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Lyon applying for exploratory membership and expedited provisional membership in 2022

Becker College closed, leaves the NECC
Wesley athletic programs discontinued in merger with Delaware State, leaves AEC

Conference Changes Starting in 2021-2022
Bay Path leaves the NECC and NCAA for the USCAA
Centenary (NJ) leaves the CSAC for the AEC
Elms leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Emory & Henry leaves ODAC for Division II
Iowa Wesleyan leaves SLIAC and NCAA for NAIA
Louisiana College leaves ASC and NCAA for NAIA
Mary Baldwin will add men's program, begin play in the USA South
Southern Virginia leaves the C2C for the USA South
St. Mary's (Md.) leaves the C2C for the UEC
St. Norbert leaves the MWC for the NACC
St. Thomas involuntarily removed from MIAC, will join Division I (Summit League)
St. Scholastica leaves the UMAC for the MIAC

Conference Changes Starting in 2022-2023
Allegheny leaves the NCAC for the PAC
Averett leaves the USAC for the ODAC
Mississippi University for Women (MUW) will join the SLIAC
Medaille leaves the AMCC for the Empire 8
Belhaven leaves the ASC for the Collegiate Conference of the South
Agnes Scott, Berea, Covenant, Huntingdon, LaGrange, Maryville, Piedmont, and Wesleyan (GA) leave the USAC for the Collegiate Conference of the South

Conference Changes Starting in 2023-2024
Lesley leaves the NECC for the NAC
Lycoming leaves the MAC Freedom for the Landmark
Morrisville State leaves the UEC for the NAC
Wilkes leaves the MAC Freedom for the Landmark
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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2022, 03:32:40 PM
Dave McHugh,

Where do Eastern Nazarene, Mitchell and New England College land now?

Thanks.

From what I understand, the NECC believes their AQs are intact one more year, until Lesley actually leaves. I've not heard concrete plans from any school, but I don't think any of them are going to try and attract new members to keep it together.

I've wondered why a few renegade GNAC members don't join to get a better AQ chance. Maybe Hartford can take it over and build their own d3 conference? It seems a waste to let an established AQ just disappear.
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