Conference changes

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FCGrizzliesGrad

So a group of teams left the CSAC to form the AEC in 18, the NEAC became the UEC in 21, the UEC and CSAC will merge possibly in 23, and I still get the AEC and UEC confused.

Come on regions 1-5, quit playing musical chairs. ::)
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Full membership fall 2022: Pratt, University of St Thomas (Texas)
3rd year provisional members (full membership fall 2023): Bob Jones, Mississippi University for Women
2nd year provisional members: Asbury, Warren Wilson
1st year provisional members: Hartford, Lyon
Exploratory: Carlow

* Games against Year 3 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Conference Changes Starting in 2022-2023
Allegheny leaves the NCAC for the PAC
Averett leaves the USAC for the ODAC
Medaille leaves the AMCC for the Empire 8
Warren Wilson joins the C2C
Belhaven leaves the ASC for the Collegiate Conference of the South
Agnes Scott, Berea, Covenant, Huntingdon, LaGrange, Maryville, Piedmont, and Wesleyan (GA) leave the USAC for the Collegiate Conference of the South

Conference Changes Starting in 2023-2024
Carlow joins the AMCC
Cazenovia (NAC) closes
Hartford joins the CCC
Lebanon Valley shifts from the MAC Commonwealth to the MAC Freedom
Lesley leaves the NECC for the NAC
Lycoming leaves the MAC Freedom for the Landmark
Lyon joins the SLIAC
Mississippi University for Women (MUW) joins the SLIAC
Mitchell leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Morrisville State leaves the UEC for the NAC
New England College leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Notre Dame (MD) adds men's sports and competes in the CSAC/UEC
Salve Regina leaves the CCC for the NEWMAC
Wells leaves the UEC for the AMCC
Wilkes leaves the MAC Freedom for the Landmark
CSAC (Bryn Athyn, Cairn, Clarks Summit, Keystone, Notre Dame (MD), Rosemont, St. Elizabeth, Valley Forge, Wilson, plus Cedar Crest in women's sports) and UEC (Gallaudet, Lancaster Bible, Penn College, Penn State Abington, Penn State Berks, Penn State Harrisburg, St. Mary's (MD)) merge

Conference Changes Starting in 2024-2025
Johnson & Wales leaves the GNAC for the CCC
McMurry leaves the ASC for the SCAC
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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 19, 2022, 02:12:10 PM
So a group of teams left the CSAC to form the AEC in 18, the NEAC became the UEC in 21, the UEC and CSAC will merge possibly in 23, and I still get the AEC and UEC confused.

Come on regions 1-5, quit playing musical chairs. ::)

And six of the ten CSAC members used to be in the NEAC.
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Caz Bombers

some of those CSAC schools have to be in dire financial straits. Personally, I'm shocked Saint Elizabeth is still open.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Caz Bombers on December 19, 2022, 04:17:40 PM
some of those CSAC schools have to be in dire financial straits. Personally, I'm shocked Saint Elizabeth is still open.

That's the subtext to this, right? We'll merge 17 schools together in one conference and hope we'll still have 12 in the long run.
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stlawus

#1491
So does this create 21 pool C slots once the CSAC and UEC merge?

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Quote from: stlawus on December 22, 2022, 02:07:30 PM
So does this create 21 pool C slots once the CASAC and UEC merge?

Should be 22 next year and 21 thereafter.
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Quote from: Inkblot on December 22, 2022, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: stlawus on December 22, 2022, 02:07:30 PM
So does this create 21 pool C slots once the CASAC and UEC merge?

Should be 22 next year and 21 thereafter.

I think I'm missing something on the math. Is is 21 or 22 for next year?

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Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 30, 2022, 05:09:17 PM
Quote from: Inkblot on December 22, 2022, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: stlawus on December 22, 2022, 02:07:30 PM
So does this create 21 pool C slots once the CASAC and UEC merge?

Should be 22 next year and 21 thereafter.

I think I'm missing something on the math. Is is 21 or 22 for next year?

2022–23 season... 44 Pool A, 20 Pool C
2023–24 season... 42 Pool A (CSAC/UEC merger and loss of the NECC), 22 Pool C
2024–25 season... 43 Pool A (CCS finishes waiting period), 21 Pool C

As it stands currently there *would* be a Pool B bid next year (7 CCS + Bob Jones, Eastern Nazarene, Maranatha Baptist = 10 schools, slightly more than the 9.67 access ratio), but I expect Eastern Nazarene and/or Bob Jones will find a conference by then.
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KnightSlappy

Thanks I wasn't calculating the NECC bid in my head

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

#1496

ENC has chosen the NAC.  Starting next season.  Full member, so they'll be pulling tennis from the GNAC to make this switch.


With Caz closing and Morrisville coming in, I assume the NAC will move Lyndon over to the West (to bring it to seven teams) and then add Lesley and ENC in the east (for seven there as well).
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Gregory Sager

Congrats on your alma mater avoiding its impending orphanhood, Ryan.

It makes sense for the league to add ENC to balance out the divisions, although even the divisions themselves each occupy a pretty sizeable geographical footprint. Of course, any league that includes UMPI is almost by definition going to require a lot of road time (often under difficult road conditions). But it's nice to know that nobody's expecting a home-and-home between schools located in Presque Isle, ME and Delhi, NY.
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Provisional Pipeline for 2022-23
Full membership fall 2022: Pratt, University of St Thomas (Texas)
3rd year provisional members (full membership fall 2023): Bob Jones, Mississippi University for Women
2nd year provisional members: Asbury, Warren Wilson
1st year provisional members: Hartford, Lyon
Exploratory: Carlow

* Games against Year 3 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Conference Changes Starting in 2022-2023
Allegheny leaves the NCAC for the PAC
Averett leaves the USAC for the ODAC
Medaille leaves the AMCC for the Empire 8
Warren Wilson joins the C2C
Belhaven leaves the ASC for the Collegiate Conference of the South
Agnes Scott, Berea, Covenant, Huntingdon, LaGrange, Maryville, Piedmont, and Wesleyan (GA) leave the USAC for the Collegiate Conference of the South

Conference Changes Starting in 2023-2024
Carlow joins the AMCC
Cazenovia (NAC) closes
Eastern Nazarene leaves the NECC for the NAC
Hartford joins the CCC
Lebanon Valley shifts from the MAC Commonwealth to the MAC Freedom
Lesley leaves the NECC for the NAC
Lycoming leaves the MAC Freedom for the Landmark
Lyon joins the SLIAC
Mississippi University for Women (MUW) joins the SLIAC
Mitchell leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Morrisville State leaves the UEC for the NAC
New England College leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Notre Dame (MD) adds men's sports and competes in the CSAC/UEC
Salve Regina leaves the CCC for the NEWMAC
Wells leaves the UEC for the AMCC
Wilkes leaves the MAC Freedom for the Landmark
CSAC (Bryn Athyn, Cairn, Clarks Summit, Keystone, Notre Dame (MD), Rosemont, St. Elizabeth, Valley Forge, Wilson, plus Cedar Crest in women's sports) and UEC (Gallaudet, Lancaster Bible, Penn College, Penn State Abington, Penn State Berks, Penn State Harrisburg, St. Mary's (MD)) merge

Conference Changes Starting in 2024-2025
Johnson & Wales leaves the GNAC for the CCC
McMurry leaves the ASC for the SCAC
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Caz Bombers

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 09, 2023, 12:44:34 PM
Congrats on your alma mater avoiding its impending orphanhood, Ryan.

It makes sense for the league to add ENC to balance out the divisions, although even the divisions themselves each occupy a pretty sizeable geographical footprint. Of course, any league that includes UMPI is almost by definition going to require a lot of road time (often under difficult road conditions). But it's nice to know that nobody's expecting a home-and-home between schools located in Presque Isle, ME and Delhi, NY.

no home and home but oddly enough Delhi did make the crossover trip to Husson and UMPI this past weekend. Lost by 7 to Husson and by 3 in 2OT to UMPI on a buzzer beater. Long ride home after that.