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Quote from: Caz Bombers on October 05, 2023, 03:06:44 PM
more of a football question, but clearly the ECFC is going the way of the dodo. Castleton is joining the MASCAC next year and Anna Maria in 2025. They were already in the AQ grace period.

Which conferences do you think will take in Alfred State, Dean, and Gallaudet football?

Clearly they're going to join the ASC, right?
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Quote from: Caz Bombers on October 05, 2023, 03:06:44 PM
Which conferences do you think will take in Alfred State, Dean, and Gallaudet football?

In a football-affiliate membership status standpoint: Alfred State to the Empire 8 or Independent, Dean to the NEWMAC (alongside other GNeAC 'friend' Norwich) and Gallaudet to the Landmark (with UEC 'friend' Keystone). Thoughts?

On a sidenote, any link of Anna Maria moving to the MASCAC from the GNeAC? Just curious.

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Quote from: jlog3000 on October 05, 2023, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on October 05, 2023, 03:06:44 PM
Which conferences do you think will take in Alfred State, Dean, and Gallaudet football?

In a football-affiliate membership status standpoint: Alfred State to the Empire 8 or Independent, Dean to the NEWMAC (alongside other GNeAC 'friend' Norwich) and Gallaudet to the Landmark (with UEC 'friend' Keystone). Thoughts?

On a sidenote, any link of Anna Maria moving to the MASCAC from the GNeAC? Just curious.

https://mascac.prestosports.com/news/23-24_News/Anna_Maria_Announcement
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Quote from: Caz Bombers on October 09, 2023, 01:11:47 PM
CCS swapping one Kentucky school for another.

https://collegiateconferenceofthesouth.com/news/2023/10/5/general-asbury-joins-division-iii-collegiate-conference-of-the-south.aspx
So the mystery has finally been solved.
How do you folks in New England and Mid Atlantic do all this changing every year? We get one or two movements around here and I'm exhausted :o
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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on October 09, 2023, 01:33:58 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on October 09, 2023, 01:11:47 PM
CCS swapping one Kentucky school for another.

https://collegiateconferenceofthesouth.com/news/2023/10/5/general-asbury-joins-division-iii-collegiate-conference-of-the-south.aspx
So the mystery has finally been solved.
How do you folks in New England and Mid Atlantic do all this changing every year? We get one or two movements around here and I'm exhausted :o

I find I do a fair bit of counting on my fingers and toes.

My question following the Canton/Morrisville --> SUNYAC move is what's up with Poly/Delhi/Cobleskill and the NAC West.

Option 1 - do nothing, NAC moves either Lesley or VTSU Lyndon to the West to re-balance 6 & 6.

Option 2 - bang on the SUNYAC's door to come along even though none of them are really competitively ready for that.

Option 3 - recruit disgruntled New York colleges to replace the two you're losing. Sage and Hartwick would be good fits.

jlog3000

With all due to respect, but wouldn't it make it clearly more sense for the active SUNY schools (that are within D-III, excluding Brockport and Geneseo, and not including the top ones that are in D-I being Buffalo, Albany, Binghamton and Stony Brook) all join the SUNYAC?

Gregory Sager

SUNY-Old Westbury is on Long Island, SUNY Maritime is in the Bronx, and SUNY-Purchase is in Westchester County. They really belong in a league based in and around New York City (i.e., their current home, the Skyline Conference), not in the SUNYAC. It makes no sense for them to do all of the ridiculous travel involved in playing schools clear across the state when there's a plethora of local schools within an hour or so of campus.
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To compare, the WIAC has almost all the D3 U Wisconsin schools except Superior, which used to be in the conference, but they're way up in the northwest corner of the state and moved to the UMAC where travel is probably a bit shorter and they could be more competitive.
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Caz Bombers

Quote from: Caz Bombers on October 05, 2023, 03:06:44 PM
more of a football question, but clearly the ECFC is going the way of the dodo. Castleton is joining the MASCAC next year and Anna Maria in 2025. They were already in the AQ grace period.

Which conferences do you think will take in Alfred State, Dean, and Gallaudet football?

Well 1 of 3 quickly resolved, Alfred State football affiliates with the E8 in 2025.

https://empire8.com/news/2023/10/10/alfred-state-college-to-join-empire-8-as-football-affiliate-member-in-2025.aspx

jlog3000

Quote from: Gregory Sager on October 09, 2023, 09:41:59 PM
SUNY-Old Westbury is on Long Island, SUNY Maritime is in the Bronx, and SUNY-Purchase is in Westchester County. They really belong in a league based in and around New York City (i.e., their current home, the Skyline Conference), not in the SUNYAC. It makes no sense for them to do all of the ridiculous travel involved in playing schools clear across the state when there's a plethora of local schools within an hour or so of campus.

Fair enough. Then putting the SUNY schools from the NYC area aside, would it work for Cobleskill, Delhi and SUNY Poly to be SUNYAC-bound, if that opportunity was to occur?

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Quote from: Caz Bombers on October 10, 2023, 02:47:15 PM
Dean football to the MASCAC. Only Gallaudet unaccounted for now.

https://twitter.com/mascacsports/status/1711803793430491301?t=a7LRyoIVm6xWSUIJkpaZlQ&s=19

Looks like that's official. Maybe Gallaudet would be an Indy for football for now until then.

P.S.: There goes for my predictions, according to one of my posts, lol: http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5831.msg2090065#msg2090065

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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on October 10, 2023, 08:04:13 AM
To compare, the WIAC has almost all the D3 U Wisconsin schools except Superior, which used to be in the conference, but they're way up in the northwest corner of the state and moved to the UMAC where travel is probably a bit shorter and they could be more competitive.

Superior had 3 trips over 300 miles in the WIAC and 8 total road trips. The UMAC has none over 300 and also has travel partners. So, outside of a short hour trip to Ashland to play Northland, they only have 3 road trips where they play Friday/Saturday, all under 300 miles. However, I do believe one of their trips totals just over 300 miles, but, again, you get two road games in one trip there.
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Quote from: Caz Bombers on October 10, 2023, 02:47:15 PM
Dean football to the MASCAC. Only Gallaudet unaccounted for now.

Gallaudet should go to the Landmark. It's the best fit geographically. The Landmark has only 7 football playing members, 6 full members plus Keystone who's also from the UEC. And Catholic U is only 3 miles from Gallaudet. Those two could have a great rivalry.