BB: Regionals (South) Danville '08, Salisbury '09, Methodist '10, Rhodes '11

[Back2Back!!]

forheavendial4999...........You sure do no alot about the USA South and the ODAC for someone who hasn't seen a game all year........Im sure you get bored over there in South Korea but I dont look too far into your opinions personally.

I live in the 2nd largest city in Asia and larger than any in the US. I don't lack for things to do. I'm sure it's not the thriving metropolis of Winchester, but then what is.

I haven't always lived in South Korea, you know. I've lived in several different places. It's also fortunate that baseball is a game that lends itself to being followed on paper...especially with the play by plays available through most school sites now.

It's off putting to some just how much you can glean from them if you know what you're doing, without ever having to be at the games...but you can and I often do.

As for what you decide to do with my comments...I really couldn't care less. If people enjoy, appreciate or are enriched by them, great, that's why they're there. If you don't, I really don't care but it's pretty poor form to say so.

My friend, if you set there and watch each game play by play then I would have to say that you dont have too many things to do.

[Pauperboy]

1.) CNU
2.) Shenandoah
3.) Piedmont
4.) Maryville
5.) Methodist
6.) Emory
7.) Rhodes
8.) Salisbury


   Methodist and Maryville control their destinies. Salisbury looks to need some help. Piedmont can basically lock up their regional bid with a conference title. Emory can't do much so I think its safe to say they are out. Rhodes can maybe slide in if they can take care of Hendrix in 2 games this weekend and get some help by having Maryville go 2 and out in the GSAC and Methodist stumble in their matchup with Salisbury.

   Also of note with regards to Millington being selected as a regional host site, there was not ONE South Regional institution that stepped up and offered to host the NCAA Regionals. It certainly is not ideal by any means geographically but what are you supposed to do when no one else steps up to the plate? I can assure you that the NCAA is well aware of the issues this site location causes but ultimately gave their stamp of approval on it.

  One last note........Mucho Macho Man in the Kentucky Derby.

[forheavendial4999]

forheavendial4999...........You sure do no alot about the USA South and the ODAC for someone who hasn't seen a game all year........Im sure you get bored over there in South Korea but I dont look too far into your opinions personally.

I live in the 2nd largest city in Asia and larger than any in the US. I don't lack for things to do. I'm sure it's not the thriving metropolis of Winchester, but then what is.

I haven't always lived in South Korea, you know. I've lived in several different places. It's also fortunate that baseball is a game that lends itself to being followed on paper...especially with the play by plays available through most school sites now.

It's off putting to some just how much you can glean from them if you know what you're doing, without ever having to be at the games...but you can and I often do.

As for what you decide to do with my comments...I really couldn't care less. If people enjoy, appreciate or are enriched by them, great, that's why they're there. If you don't, I really don't care but it's pretty poor form to say so.

My friend, if you set there and watch each game play by play then I would have to say that you dont have too many things to do.

I do follow a decent number of games using live stats or radio, but a lot of times I'm at work too.

But what I was really referring to are post-game box scores that often times have the PBP attached. You can read through one of those in a few minutes. And there are a lot of games that I don't have much interest in because I know neither of the teams are going to be in the regionals.

I'm sure the options for things to do here in Seoul don't rival drinking beer in the Wal-Mart parking lot in Winchester, but I manage to make do and keep busy enough during the evening when, it should be noted, baseball is not happening back in the states. Even a noon game in the Eastern time zone is 1 a.m. here.

[forheavendial4999]

   Also of note with regards to Millington being selected as a regional host site, there was not ONE South Regional institution that stepped up and offered to host the NCAA Regionals. It certainly is not ideal by any means geographically but what are you supposed to do when no one else steps up to the plate? I can assure you that the NCAA is well aware of the issues this site location causes but ultimately gave their stamp of approval on it.

This is quite instructive. Looks like a lot of lazy baseball coaches and athletic directors in the region. It is extra work to host, but one should want to do it and do a professional job. A well run regional is a treat and a memory for players. Some coaches may not have a facility available to host, but others do or can get access to a nearby one and simply don't put forth the effort to do it.

In that case, kudos to Jeff Cleanthes and Rhodes for stepping up to the plate. Millington should be a fine venue and from what I know of Rhodes they will do a good job.

[SUball]

Yeah, I'll be very surprised if Shenandoah goes to TN...I think and hope they go to the Kean(mid-athlantic) region..if they are sent to the marietta region that would have to be classified as the toughest region with Marietta, Heidelberg and SU.

Is there any chance that they might move one of the texas teams over to Millington such as Texas-Tyler?

If there is an upset in the ASC tournament, and Chapman gets a bid...maybe. Then you might have Trinity, ASC champ, HSU, UTT, Linfield, Redlands, Chapman and UT-Tyler could go to Millington. If that surprise ASC champ was Louisiana or Mississippi, then they might go instead.

I think if Shenandoah goes to another region that region is automatically going to look pretty tough on paper. But right now Shenandoah's only 2-4 against teams that are locks or clinched to be in the tournament (CNU, Cortland, Frostburg). Sometimes records can be deceiving. Either Marietta or New Jersey are likely to be strong regionals regardless of whether Shenandoah is there or not. Heidelberg could theoretically go to Bloomington, as could Adrian. Impossible to say whether that will happen or not.

Majority of those teams are 500+ from millingon...
Trinity 515
HSU 649
Linfield, Redlands, Chapman 1,500 plus

On the other note, I'm a little bit concerned about SU against tough competition...however, the 2-4 record doesnt tell the whole story...in the sample you have to put in RMC, MU, Salisbury along with the three teams that you mentioned, making their record 6-4
The offense has dropped off a bit and especially against the top tier teams....In those 10 games SU batting .264, 4.8 runs per game(if u take the 12 runs they put up on cnu out it would be in the 3s) and 2.4 XBHs per game

Why would be why I said "UT-Tyler could go to Millington" not those other teams. I'm glad you felt you needed to say that Linfield, Redlands and Chapman are more than 500 miles from Tennessee. Hardin-Simmons is in the same city as the regional, making them a damn unlikely candidate to be moved. I love when people add things I've already covered.

Methodist hasn't clinched crap. Neither has Salisbury. The South is so weak this year that I don't see being on the bottom of the regional rankings as meaning very much.

Randolph-Macon is in, and technically should have been counted, though I hardly think anyone from the ODAC was a quality win this year.

On another board, it was mentioned that Concordia IL has a dearth of quality wins, and their schedule looks fairly similar to Shenandoah's if you ask me. Shen is in a better league, but this was a really off year for the USAS from the looks of things. Whither Ferrum and NC Wesleyan?

My mistake i misead ur post....easy bro...I agree Methodist and Salisbury havent secure a spot in the regions but are in the talking..so i think justifies them being used

Fair enough on the misread. Sorry to be so jumpy...some people on this board seem to be gunning for me so I'm probably a little defensive.

IIRC, there is a criteria for record against the teams in the tournament. I could be wrong about that...could be projecting that from some other sport or some other level. But that's what I was using. I don't think there's a Nitty Gritty sheet like in D-I basketball where any win over a top 100 team gets consideration.

I miss the days when almost everyone in the Dixie Conference was good. It would be a lot easier to tell more about teams like Shenandoah (and CNU and Methodist) from the conference tournament if the league had the depth it used to.

Its alright.. im not gunning for anybody..just want to talk some d3 baseball

I agree, I think it was another down year for usa south..i can remember freshmen yr(2007) SU finished 27-15 and finished 6th in the conference and all 7 teams were at or over .500.. every weekend was a dog fight regardless of who you were playing...Watching some of the conference games this yr I just don't see the same competition level from top to bottom of the league.. some of the teams were over matched and it is hard to tell if its because teams like SU and CNU are that good or the teams that they were playing are that bad..same is true with the ODAC the couple teams that i did see did not impress me but I'll say I think the best team is going to the regionals from the ODAC

[forheavendial4999]

I agree, I think it was another down year for usa south..i can remember freshmen yr(2007) SU finished 27-15 and finished 6th in the conference and all 7 teams were at or over .500.. every weekend was a dog fight regardless of who you were playing...Watching some of the conference games this yr I just don't see the same competition level from top to bottom of the league.. some of the teams were over matched and it is hard to tell if its because teams like SU and CNU are that good or the teams that they were playing are that bad..same is true with the ODAC the couple teams that i did see did not impress me but I'll say I think the best team is going to the regionals from the ODAC

Don't have much to add...there were times in the past that it was 6 pretty decent teams and then Greensboro

I think the guy to replace Naff at Ferrum isn't the guy for them, apparently, that or Abe was just better than it seemed. Never seemed like he had enough pitching to go the distance and his teams didn't seem that discliplined, but it seems in retrospect like he might have been doing better than it looked. Ferrum is not exactly the kind of place a lot of young people are likely to be hankering to go.

Wesleyan has been on a slow burn downwards since the players Coach Fox brought in left. Like frying a frog down there.

Hopefully Piedmont and LaGrange can pick the level back up because with Shenandoah leaving, it doesn't feel like a lot is left. Piedmont has a terrific looking facility (regional caliber and just a nice place to watch a ballgame) and is in a pretty area, even though it's a very small town. But it's not too too far from Atlanta and not far from Clemson either. 

[SUball]

forheavendial4999...........You sure do no alot about the USA South and the ODAC for someone who hasn't seen a game all year........Im sure you get bored over there in South Korea but I dont look too far into your opinions personally.

I live in the 2nd largest city in Asia and larger than any in the US. I don't lack for things to do. I'm sure it's not the thriving metropolis of Winchester, but then what is.

I haven't always lived in South Korea, you know. I've lived in several different places. It's also fortunate that baseball is a game that lends itself to being followed on paper...especially with the play by plays available through most school sites now.

It's off putting to some just how much you can glean from them if you know what you're doing, without ever having to be at the games...but you can and I often do.

As for what you decide to do with my comments...I really couldn't care less. If people enjoy, appreciate or are enriched by them, great, that's why they're there. If you don't, I really don't care but it's pretty poor form to say so.

My friend, if you set there and watch each game play by play then I would have to say that you dont have too many things to do.

I do follow a decent number of games using live stats or radio, but a lot of times I'm at work too.

But what I was really referring to are post-game box scores that often times have the PBP attached. You can read through one of those in a few minutes. And there are a lot of games that I don't have much interest in because I know neither of the teams are going to be in the regionals.

I'm sure the options for things to do here in Seoul don't rival drinking beer in the Wal-Mart parking lot in Winchester, but I manage to make do and keep busy enough during the evening when, it should be noted, baseball is not happening back in the states. Even a noon game in the Eastern time zone is 1 a.m. here.

I think you would be surprised if u were in Winchester this weekend...whole lot more would be going on with the Apple blossom festival where around 250,000 people are in town...probably nothing compared to Seoul but around here its a pretty big deal

[forheavendial4999]

forheavendial4999...........You sure do no alot about the USA South and the ODAC for someone who hasn't seen a game all year........Im sure you get bored over there in South Korea but I dont look too far into your opinions personally.

I live in the 2nd largest city in Asia and larger than any in the US. I don't lack for things to do. I'm sure it's not the thriving metropolis of Winchester, but then what is.

I haven't always lived in South Korea, you know. I've lived in several different places. It's also fortunate that baseball is a game that lends itself to being followed on paper...especially with the play by plays available through most school sites now.

It's off putting to some just how much you can glean from them if you know what you're doing, without ever having to be at the games...but you can and I often do.

As for what you decide to do with my comments...I really couldn't care less. If people enjoy, appreciate or are enriched by them, great, that's why they're there. If you don't, I really don't care but it's pretty poor form to say so.

My friend, if you set there and watch each game play by play then I would have to say that you dont have too many things to do.

I do follow a decent number of games using live stats or radio, but a lot of times I'm at work too.

But what I was really referring to are post-game box scores that often times have the PBP attached. You can read through one of those in a few minutes. And there are a lot of games that I don't have much interest in because I know neither of the teams are going to be in the regionals.

I'm sure the options for things to do here in Seoul don't rival drinking beer in the Wal-Mart parking lot in Winchester, but I manage to make do and keep busy enough during the evening when, it should be noted, baseball is not happening back in the states. Even a noon game in the Eastern time zone is 1 a.m. here.

I think you would be surprised if u were in Winchester this weekend...whole lot more would be going on with the Apple blossom festival where around 250,000 people are in town...probably nothing compared to Seoul but around here its a pretty big deal

I've seen such things. I really have nothing against Winchester, I've been there and it's actually a pretty nice town. But I do have something against the idea that Korea is somehow boring or that because I follow something I've followed for 20 years while I'm here, that I must not have much to do, especially coming from someone (not you) with connections to a place that isn't exactly hopping 24/7.

It's completely non-sensical.

[Back2Back!!]

forheavendial4999...........You sure do no alot about the USA South and the ODAC for someone who hasn't seen a game all year........Im sure you get bored over there in South Korea but I dont look too far into your opinions personally.

I live in the 2nd largest city in Asia and larger than any in the US. I don't lack for things to do. I'm sure it's not the thriving metropolis of Winchester, but then what is.

I haven't always lived in South Korea, you know. I've lived in several different places. It's also fortunate that baseball is a game that lends itself to being followed on paper...especially with the play by plays available through most school sites now.

It's off putting to some just how much you can glean from them if you know what you're doing, without ever having to be at the games...but you can and I often do.

As for what you decide to do with my comments...I really couldn't care less. If people enjoy, appreciate or are enriched by them, great, that's why they're there. If you don't, I really don't care but it's pretty poor form to say so.

My friend, if you set there and watch each game play by play then I would have to say that you dont have too many things to do.

I do follow a decent number of games using live stats or radio, but a lot of times I'm at work too.

But what I was really referring to are post-game box scores that often times have the PBP attached. You can read through one of those in a few minutes. And there are a lot of games that I don't have much interest in because I know neither of the teams are going to be in the regionals.

I'm sure the options for things to do here in Seoul don't rival drinking beer in the Wal-Mart parking lot in Winchester, but I manage to make do and keep busy enough during the evening when, it should be noted, baseball is not happening back in the states. Even a noon game in the Eastern time zone is 1 a.m. here.

I think you would be surprised if u were in Winchester this weekend...whole lot more would be going on with the Apple blossom festival where around 250,000 people are in town...probably nothing compared to Seoul but around here its a pretty big deal

I've seen such things. I really have nothing against Winchester, I've been there and it's actually a pretty nice town. But I do have something against the idea that Korea is somehow boring or that because I follow something I've followed for 20 years while I'm here, that I must not have much to do, especially coming from someone (not you) with connections to a place that isn't exactly hopping 24/7.

It's completely non-sensical.

I just found it quite odd for someone so far away to know SO much about the USA South  baseball and since you know SO much I figured that there wasnt much to do where you are currently living. I do know that if I was in South Korea where it is hopping 24/7 the last thing I would be doing is following play by plays. But I will say it shows you love for the game to be that far away and still keep up with it like you do.

[SUball]

I agree, I think it was another down year for usa south..i can remember freshmen yr(2007) SU finished 27-15 and finished 6th in the conference and all 7 teams were at or over .500.. every weekend was a dog fight regardless of who you were playing...Watching some of the conference games this yr I just don't see the same competition level from top to bottom of the league.. some of the teams were over matched and it is hard to tell if its because teams like SU and CNU are that good or the teams that they were playing are that bad..same is true with the ODAC the couple teams that i did see did not impress me but I'll say I think the best team is going to the regionals from the ODAC

Don't have much to add...there were times in the past that it was 6 pretty decent teams and then Greensboro

I think the guy to replace Naff at Ferrum isn't the guy for them, apparently, that or Abe was just better than it seemed. Never seemed like he had enough pitching to go the distance and his teams didn't seem that discliplined, but it seems in retrospect like he might have been doing better than it looked. Ferrum is not exactly the kind of place a lot of young people are likely to be hankering to go.

Wesleyan has been on a slow burn downwards since the players Coach Fox brought in left. Like frying a frog down there.

Hopefully Piedmont and LaGrange can pick the level back up because with Shenandoah leaving, it doesn't feel like a lot is left. Piedmont has a terrific looking facility (regional caliber and just a nice place to watch a ballgame) and is in a pretty area, even though it's a very small town. But it's not too too far from Atlanta and not far from Clemson either. 

Speaking about Ferrum..what happened to their field..they use to have one of the nicest fields in the usa south if not the best but after talking to the SU players after the series down there they said it was in worst condition than Bridgeforth and that is pretty hard to do. As for NCW, they aren't getting the talent they once got, their team speed doesn't even compare to what they once had. Piedmont and LaGrange are two good pick ups for the conference..Both should be able to recruit the GA area hot bed with success and get the conference back to where it used to be..too bad Shenandoah will not be apart of it.

[SUball]

forheavendial4999...........You sure do no alot about the USA South and the ODAC for someone who hasn't seen a game all year........Im sure you get bored over there in South Korea but I dont look too far into your opinions personally.

I live in the 2nd largest city in Asia and larger than any in the US. I don't lack for things to do. I'm sure it's not the thriving metropolis of Winchester, but then what is.

I haven't always lived in South Korea, you know. I've lived in several different places. It's also fortunate that baseball is a game that lends itself to being followed on paper...especially with the play by plays available through most school sites now.

It's off putting to some just how much you can glean from them if you know what you're doing, without ever having to be at the games...but you can and I often do.

As for what you decide to do with my comments...I really couldn't care less. If people enjoy, appreciate or are enriched by them, great, that's why they're there. If you don't, I really don't care but it's pretty poor form to say so.

My friend, if you set there and watch each game play by play then I would have to say that you dont have too many things to do.

I do follow a decent number of games using live stats or radio, but a lot of times I'm at work too.

But what I was really referring to are post-game box scores that often times have the PBP attached. You can read through one of those in a few minutes. And there are a lot of games that I don't have much interest in because I know neither of the teams are going to be in the regionals.

I'm sure the options for things to do here in Seoul don't rival drinking beer in the Wal-Mart parking lot in Winchester, but I manage to make do and keep busy enough during the evening when, it should be noted, baseball is not happening back in the states. Even a noon game in the Eastern time zone is 1 a.m. here.

I think you would be surprised if u were in Winchester this weekend...whole lot more would be going on with the Apple blossom festival where around 250,000 people are in town...probably nothing compared to Seoul but around here its a pretty big deal

I've seen such things. I really have nothing against Winchester, I've been there and it's actually a pretty nice town. But I do have something against the idea that Korea is somehow boring or that because I follow something I've followed for 20 years while I'm here, that I must not have much to do, especially coming from someone (not you) with connections to a place that isn't exactly hopping 24/7.

It's completely non-sensical.

I didnt think that you had anything against Winchester..I was just getting a plug in for Apple Blossom ...keep on following the game

[PNeal7]

I agree on the NCWC comment. Their team speed is not at all what is used to be. When they had Matt Smith, Chris Pecora, and Luke Wiliford (check my spelling there), they couldn't absolutely fly. If Smith got a single, in a span of 3-4 pitches it turned into a triple. They also had better qualtity arms, such as Blake Rice and Ben Moore.

Despite several teams being down in the USAS this year, I find it hard to consider it a down year for any conference when you have 2 teams in the Top 5 nationally. While I agree there aren't the major power hitters like there used to be (Brett Thomas-FC, Maloney-GC), I think the level of play between the conferences top teams is still high. While I believe the guy is a good hitter, I don't think double digit HR's from DeHaven quite strike someone like Thomas or Maloney did a while back. Those guys could flat hit any pitcher 450 feet, and I saw both do it off of Kenny Moreland.

No matter when either team ends up in regionals, CNU and SU will be in good shape to win a few games and potentially the tournament. Go Captains!

[narch]

1.) CNU
2.) Shenandoah
3.) Piedmont
4.) Maryville
5.) Methodist
6.) Emory
7.) Rhodes
8.) Salisbury


   Methodist and Maryville control their destinies. Salisbury looks to need some help. Piedmont can basically lock up their regional bid with a conference title. Emory can't do much so I think its safe to say they are out. Rhodes can maybe slide in if they can take care of Hendrix in 2 games this weekend and get some help by having Maryville go 2 and out in the GSAC and Methodist stumble in their matchup with Salisbury.

   Also of note with regards to Millington being selected as a regional host site, there was not ONE South Regional institution that stepped up and offered to host the NCAA Regionals. It certainly is not ideal by any means geographically but what are you supposed to do when no one else steps up to the plate? I can assure you that the NCAA is well aware of the issues this site location causes but ultimately gave their stamp of approval on it.

  One last note........Mucho Macho Man in the Kentucky Derby.

are these official regional rankings, or your best guess?

[narch]

losing the rmc game really hurt mu...shenandoah jumped from 84 to 69 in SOS ranking playing frostburg and rmc

here is updated regional record information...i think i got all of the south region teams which are > .600 in region (just noticed that i left rhodes in, despite a sub .600 record...oops)

http://img580.imageshack.us/i/regional428.jpg/

looking at this, i think you could justify ranking mu 4th in the region...6 of the monarch losses came to cnu and shenandoah, who have combined for a 59-10 (.855) regional record

[Boysofsummer21]

1.) CNU
2.) Shenandoah
3.) Piedmont
4.) Maryville
5.) Methodist
6.) Emory
7.) Rhodes
8.) Salisbury


   Methodist and Maryville control their destinies. Salisbury looks to need some help. Piedmont can basically lock up their regional bid with a conference title. Emory can't do much so I think its safe to say they are out. Rhodes can maybe slide in if they can take care of Hendrix in 2 games this weekend and get some help by having Maryville go 2 and out in the GSAC and Methodist stumble in their matchup with Salisbury.

   Also of note with regards to Millington being selected as a regional host site, there was not ONE South Regional institution that stepped up and offered to host the NCAA Regionals. It certainly is not ideal by any means geographically but what are you supposed to do when no one else steps up to the plate? I can assure you that the NCAA is well aware of the issues this site location causes but ultimately gave their stamp of approval on it.

  One last note........Mucho Macho Man in the Kentucky Derby.

are these official regional rankings, or your best guess?

From The NCAA --


South

1 Christopher Newport       29-5    39-5
2 Shenandoah                   29-5    33-5
3 Piedmont                       25-11  27-13
4 Maryville (Tenn.)            21-10  24-13
5 Methodist                      19-12  28-14
6 Emory                           24-13  26-17

Link http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3