BB: Regionals (South) Danville '08, Salisbury '09, Methodist '10, Rhodes '11

[focusandfire]

I think Salisbury gets the pool c bid and is sent to the Mid-Atlantic.

[narch]

i want to preface my comments with this...i don't think mu should get a regional bid and i'm not sure that emory or rhodes will, either, but the fact of the matter is that emory and rhodes will at least be in the discussion, while mu and maryville will not...there may be other regions where this is problematic (i think i read that the central was a little "interesting", as well) and other teams that think they are deserving (mary washington?), but i'm focusing on the teams i feel most deserving and the region i am most familiar with -  i don't want to beat a dead horse, but i can't comprehend how/why rhodes was ranked in the first place, and continues to be ranked - i've done some pretty comprehensive research including methodist, maryville, emory and rhodes...4 teams for 2 spots...and i simply can't see how the committee justifies rhodes as a regionally ranked team, let alone the #5 team in the region

here is my spreadsheet, and here is an overview of each of the 4 teams as measured by the primary and secondary criteria - take a look, and feel free to shoot holes in my research

https://spreadsheets1.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en&key=0Answ6eNPeBYddGR6R2J1ck5XOUMwWG1lVkpYTzJIX0E&hl=en&gid=7

ultimately, who does the committee answer to? how can they simply overlook the criteria that the ncaa has established?

[narch]

I think Salisbury gets the pool c bid and is sent to the Mid-Atlantic.

if salisbury doesn't get a bid, something is REALLY wrong with the system...+.700 regional winning % and a top 60 ncaa sos ranking...should be a virtual lock, in my mind

[focusandfire]

Any chance the south region tournament will be moved to a better location - one that is closer to the south region schools and is away from the flooding.

[rolln2]

Well the tournaments are all but done.  It looks like the south region will probably only have three teams from the south actually play in the south.  I think we will see CNU, Piedmont, Randolph-Macon, Webster,Thomas More, and Wabash.

[rolln2]

Well the tournaments are all but done.  It looks like the south region will probably only have three teams from the south actually play in the south.  I think we will see CNU, Piedmont, Randolph-Macon, Webster,Thomas More, and Wabash.

I also forgot maybe Franklin if not Wabash.

[donotknowscac]

i want to preface my comments with this...i don't think mu should get a regional bid and i'm not sure that emory or rhodes will, either, but the fact of the matter is that emory and rhodes will at least be in the discussion, while mu and maryville will not...there may be other regions where this is problematic (i think i read that the central was a little "interesting", as well) and other teams that think they are deserving (mary washington?), but i'm focusing on the teams i feel most deserving and the region i am most familiar with -  i don't want to beat a dead horse, but i can't comprehend how/why rhodes was ranked in the first place, and continues to be ranked - i've done some pretty comprehensive research including methodist, maryville, emory and rhodes...4 teams for 2 spots...and i simply can't see how the committee justifies rhodes as a regionally ranked team, let alone the #5 team in the region

here is my spreadsheet, and here is an overview of each of the 4 teams as measured by the primary and secondary criteria - take a look, and feel free to shoot holes in my research

https://spreadsheets1.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en&key=0Answ6eNPeBYddGR6R2J1ck5XOUMwWG1lVkpYTzJIX0E&hl=en&gid=7

ultimately, who does the committee answer to? how can they simply overlook the criteria that the ncaa has established?

Rhodes didn't get in because of this spreadsheet done by narch.  They were in until color was added to presentation.
If it wasn't for the color, then Rhodes would have been in.
Nice job Narch.
You have more power than Coach Cleanthes in the south committee.
Hope you sleep well at night.

[rolln2]

With the NCAA waiting so long to get the bids out I have a feeling we are going to see some wacky regionals.

[OshDude]

With the NCAA waiting so long to get the bids out I have a feeling we are going to see some wacky regionals.

Seems as though all of the teams have been notified. It's a matter of releasing it to the public. Kean posted its regional long ago.

[OshDude]

So it appears the South Regional may be missed by the flooding.  Hopefully it will miss a lot of Memphis as well.  It also appears that CNU is heading that way.  Given that what'd the latest thinking on the rest of the region?  Don't know what the NCAA is going to do about 4 South region teams (I include RMC) that will need to fly to Millington.  Assuming they may fly two teams in, here are my projections:


SOUTH
1 Christopher Newport 29-5 39-5  #1 seed in South Region tourney - air fare and all
2 Shenandoah 30-5 34-5 #Heading to another region or addl. NCAA air fare
3 Piedmont 29-11 31-13 #2 in South region tourney
4 Salisbury 24-10 25-11 Heading to another region or addl. NCAA air fare
5 Rhodes 23-17 24-20 Logical #4 if they make the South Region tourney
6 Emory 24-13 26-17 #3  in South Region Tourney
Unranked Randolph-Macon - Should be the #5 in the South Region, but will the NCAA pay to fly them?
Unranked SLAIC Champion - Logical #6 in South Region Tourney

I take back everything. You were very correct. Unreal that the NCAA did something close to this. You have karma coming from me for a while.

[NoVa Baseball]

So I guess the NCAA must be flush with cash cause it looks like they are now flying 3 teams to Millington.  And CNU and SU may get to play each other a 5th or 6th time in a season.  I can never figure out their thinking.  They have definitely made the South the region of death again this year.

[BigPoppa]

So I guess the NCAA must be flush with cash cause it looks like they are now flying 3 teams to Millington.  And CNU and SU may get to play each other a 5th or 6th time in a season.  I can never figure out their thinking.  They have definitely made the South the region of death again this year.

I think the MIDWEST was the region of death last year:
2010 Midwest Regional.
Stevens Point
Whitewater
St. Thomas
St. Scholastica
Carthage
Aurora

[rolln2]

Looks like a good tough south region.  Got to say I did not see the three flights coming.  The region definitely has some particpants that will be very familiar w/ each other.  Outside of Webster, and Wabash.  The other four have all played each other, w/ CNU I believe having played Shen, Sal, and Pied this year.  Should be fun especially if USA South rivals CNU/SHEN face off again for the 5th or 6th time.

[BigPoppa]

While at Carthage, we once played North Central seven times in one season and none of them were in the NCAA post-season. 4 conference games, and three time in the CCIW tourney. They beat us five times that season and we only had a total of 8 losses. Sometimes a team just has your number.

[narch]

 

Rhodes didn't get in because of this spreadsheet done by narch.  They were in until color was added to presentation.
If it wasn't for the color, then Rhodes would have been in.
Nice job Narch.
You have more power than Coach Cleanthes in the south committee.
Hope you sleep well at night.

i normally sleep well...unless for some reason i don't – your concern for my sleep is commendable...there are a number of national medical studies which show that a good night's sleep is one of the most important components of a healthy lifestyle...you must have read the same studies i did! most of the time, complete strangers on a message board don't care so much about the health and well-being of those they are "posting" with...you are truly an incredible individual to be so concerned! i'll be sure to include you on my list of nice people and give you a karma point

to the broader point of your post, i think rhodes didn't get a bid because they were clearly not deserving...there were much better teams than rhodes left out of the tournament, including at least a couple from the south region

rhodes being ranked does bring up a question in my mind...did the committee do its membership schools a disservice by deviating from the ncaa criteria? i am not as intimately familiar with some of the other pool b/c choices nationally, but i think it's fair to say that maryville, for instance, with a  61st ranked sos, .647 rwp and 4 wins vs. regionally ranked opponents would have given the national committee more to consider than rhodes, with an 88th sos rank, .575 rwp and 1 win vs. regionally ranked opponents – i imagine rhodes was an easy choice to take off the table...and by default, emory came off the table, too, as they were ranked below rhodes – essentially, the south committee made it very easy for the national committee to dismiss two south region teams

would m'ville have recv'd a bid? probably not...but they never got the opportunity to find out because the south region committee flaunted the primary and secondary criteria and they were never considered – i, personally, think that this is problematic, and i don't think i need to color-code that