BB: Regionals (South) Danville '08, Salisbury '09, Methodist '10, Rhodes '11

[Will2Win]

Welp, CNU goes 2 and out in Regionals. They certainly had an amazing season/run, and they just picked the wrong time to be sluggish. Either way, great season boys.

AND....although SU will say "we got farther," CNU did take 3 out of 4 from them  

That is true...but what's it all about at the end of the day PNeal? 
Ya had to of known I wasn't gonna let ya get away with that one

[CafeBordeaux]

Ha-ha!   That's all I have to say.  When people berate SU baseball time and time again, and we get short changed year after year in all conference voting, and seedings in tournaments, it makes it that much more invigorating to see a team like CNU get bounced after 2 games.  I have class, "my friend", I just get sick and tired of SU getting owned on the boards and in votings when all we do is win.  Year after year.  Everybody always talks how good CNU is and NC Wesleyan, but never SU, but what do we do other than back-to-back regional champions with a conference championship thrown in there.  

And on a side note, Goldsmith is a hell of a pitcher, I will not deny that, but it just goes to show you how good Van Sickler is cause he allowed ZERO runs to the same Wabash team that put up 8 against Goldsmith.  

[CafeBordeaux]

You are correct though PNeal, nice season by CNU, thought they DEF would have done better in the regionals from what I saw in Newport News and in Burlington, but unfortunately they did not come to play this week.  Hell of a run though and 39-7 is one heck of a season. 

[PNeal7]

Why'd you go and open up this rant? The board was going along so well, but then you started this. BUT, if you really want to get into "coming to play," than we certainly do so. Both CNU and SU have made 2 trips to Appleton; hm, let's compare records of both teams why they are at Appleton. Who came to play while at the World Series? Yes, you did get us in Salisbury two years ago, as congratulations you smacked around a righty topping out at about 76 MPH. In recent years, SU has had the upper hand in the playoff tournaments. However, until you do something Appleton outside of going 1-2 and 0-2, please refrain from saying you "come to play." SU has had an outstanding 3 years, but man you sure make it sound like they are the Yankees with how good they are and past history. Once you obtain an even .500 overall record at the big dance, then we can compare apples to apples, b/c CNU's performance there BY FAR blows away your showing. I'm anxious to see what you guys do when Van Sickler, Brashears, Nelson, and those guys are gone. CNU has had CONTINUED success, as they replaced guys like Turner, Phaulp, and Elliot with excellant players for a decade now. When they dust clears, and your recent crop of excellant players (Henry, Van Dusseldorp, Brashears, Van Sickler, Davis) are gone, I am anxious to see how you are.

I don't enjoy getting into arguments or rants on the CNU/SU topic, b/c I work in Winchester and am very, very close with past players. However, I can't just let you bash on my boys now.

[CafeBordeaux]

Your right Bossman, maybe I am, but I played in the SU/CNU rivalry for 2 years and I know how much each team hates the other (but respects what each one does).  Just gets the best of me sometimes.  I still stay by the things I said, but I do need to express my respect and appreciation for what CNU did this year.  Too bad for them that it ended abruptly.  

[CafeBordeaux]

You do realize that this team is a completely different team from 09, with the exceptions of Brashears, Nelson and Van Sickler.  And even a far different team than last year.  So I think it's safe to say that SU has started its trend upwards and is replacing great players with good ones who, in four years, hope to be just as great as the ones who came before them.  We lose Lambert, we bring in Neeb.  Vernon leaves for CNU, they get Delauter from Allegany and Smith comes the year after from Pot State.  Van Dusseldorp leaves, Nelson moves to 3rd and they get Beall at 1st.  Henry leaves, they replace him with Krout who was 1st team all conf SS.  Davis and Levac leave, they transform Scallion into the submarine closer.  I know that CNU has been producing players year after year for longer than SU, but SU is showing that they are making the turn around and replacing the great players who have come through the program with ones who hope to pick up where they left off.  So I see your point PNeal that CNU has been doing that "replacing" longer than SU has, but I believe that is changing and Coach Anderson is getting the players he deserves to uphold the program 

[PNeal7]

While SU is showing that trend, I don't consider some of the players you mentioned to be "big-time" players, despite their numbers. Unfortunately, until this season, you must take SU numbers with a grain of salt due to their competition and they home field. While I know the argument can be "They had betters number than you did," which they both did, I do not consider Delaughter and Nelson to be that good of players. I've also heard through the grapevine that some players on this years squard aren't as good as their numbers state (I won't mention who)Henry, Van Sickler, Brashears, Van Dusseldorp, and Davis (just for you CafeBordeaux) were legit big time players. However, you can argue all of the recent guys have had great numbers, so you can easily have a rebuttal against my argument...

Either way, fine season by CNU; sad to see it end this early...I would say it, but I can't find it within me to wish a particular someone (SU) good luck...and I believe Back2Back, Bossman, and CafeBordeaux would be the same in the opposite situation.

[Will2Win]

While SU is showing that trend, I don't consider some of the players you mentioned to be "big-time" players, despite their numbers. Unfortunately, until this season, you must take SU numbers with a grain of salt due to their competition and they home field. While I know the argument can be "They had betters number than you did," which they both did, I do not consider Delaughter and Nelson to be that good of players. I've also heard through the grapevine that some players on this years squard aren't as good as their numbers state (I won't mention who)Henry, Van Sickler, Brashears, Van Dusseldorp, and Davis (just for you CafeBordeaux) were legit big time players. However, you can argue all of the recent guys have had great numbers, so you can easily have a rebuttal against my argument...

Either way, fine season by CNU; sad to see it end this early...I would say it, but I can't find it within me to wish a particular someone (SU) good luck...and I believe Back2Back, Bossman, and CafeBordeaux would be the same in the opposite situation.

Those guys may not be STUDS like a Brashears, Van Sickler, Henry and soon on but they fit into the system at SU. They're above average ball players that put the ball in play and are more students of the game than anything (especially the Deluagther kid....Nelson is more on the Stud side...he's put up some pretty good numbers all three years he's been there, just been overshadowed by two All Americans...tough to get much press time when you have that to compete with everyday....just my thoughts.

[Will2Win]

And yeah...I wasn't rooting for CNU all year long 

[cnuball25]

I've been reading this board all year, but I've stayed away from it...primarily because I find message board "arguments" silly and pointless. However, I'm not going to allow the SU peeps to get on here and beat their chest about 3 years of success. Much like PNeal7 I'm friends with a couple former SU players and I think the world of them and their accomplishments. So with all due respect to those players...this is ridiculous...

When I first transferred CNU, we didn't give a crap about Shenandoah: we disliked Greensboro because, well, who does like Greensboro...playing Methodist was always annoying because you always felt they didn't 'beat' you but they won all the time...Averett college had an outstanding coach but his players had some busch-league antics...and the big rivalry was with NC Wesleyan because we were always seemingly competing against them for the top spot (and they were fun to have a couple cold ones with)...then SU and Ferrum were just long road trips that always seemed cold. I have no clue where the hatred/rivalry with SU came from. Maybe you were so tired of staring up at our a**es from the bottom of the standings you decided to dislike us.

10 years from now, will anybody know who SU is? Will they remember what they've done and what these current classes have worked so hard to accomplish? That depends on what the next generation of SU baseball does. You see, people defend schools like CNU because we've been there, done that (and yet we're still apparently fighting to get over the hump, but that's a different issue in my opinion). SU isn't respected that way yet and 3 years of success won't bring it. People view CNU/Methodist/NC Wesleyan in a different light because those 3 schools have experienced success for a sustained period of time.

"Coming to play" for the better part of a decade will bring that.

Baring some unforeseen event, it's known that in 2020 CNU will still be near the top of whatever conference they're in (provided it's still DIII) and still competing for regional championships (and hopefully more). The same bold statement can't be said for a school like SU.

Hats off to my Captains for a record-breaking season, and best of luck to the remaining schools in Tennessee.

[PNeal7]

Let me re-phrase...I did not mean Nelson, as in Cory Nelson...I meant Lambert, my mistake

[cnuball25]

Sorry PNeal7, as I didn't mean to stir the pot...I merely needed to get that off my chest. I doubt I post on here again...until Regionals next year

[Hound Dog]

Who is RMC?  I believe Webster is the only team not mentioned here.  If you meant to put Webster, then your prediction would be impossible because Wabash and Webster will play each other if they both lose their openers.

rmc is randolph macon college, a south region team from the odac which many have talked about being in this region for the last few weeks...obviously, they aren't in this regional, though thanks for keeping me straight - i meant webster, but hadn't looked at the second round match-ups yet to see that regardless of who the 5 and 6 seeds are, they won't be done in 2 games - either way, i don't think that either of these teams will be around long and i don't think either will present much of a challenge to win this regional tournament

You'll have to forgive Narch. Unless it deals with numbers, percentages, isn't highlighted or color coded he has some difficulty comprehending it.

pauperboy - it seems to me that this is a bit personal to you - i'm sure you're the dad of a senior player at rhodes who desperately wants to see his boy to play another game, but if you really think that my color coded charts have anything to do with a 24-20 team being left out of the ncaa tournament...let's just say that the apple fell a long way from the tree

Narch's predictions are pretty laughable thus far.

[forheavendial4999]

Who is RMC?  I believe Webster is the only team not mentioned here.  If you meant to put Webster, then your prediction would be impossible because Wabash and Webster will play each other if they both lose their openers.

rmc is randolph macon college, a south region team from the odac which many have talked about being in this region for the last few weeks...obviously, they aren't in this regional, though thanks for keeping me straight - i meant webster, but hadn't looked at the second round match-ups yet to see that regardless of who the 5 and 6 seeds are, they won't be done in 2 games - either way, i don't think that either of these teams will be around long and i don't think either will present much of a challenge to win this regional tournament

You'll have to forgive Narch. Unless it deals with numbers, percentages, isn't highlighted or color coded he has some difficulty comprehending it.

pauperboy - it seems to me that this is a bit personal to you - i'm sure you're the dad of a senior player at rhodes who desperately wants to see his boy to play another game, but if you really think that my color coded charts have anything to do with a 24-20 team being left out of the ncaa tournament...let's just say that the apple fell a long way from the tree

Narch's predictions are pretty laughable thus far.

Looks pretty decent so far. Webster got beat 10-1 today with their #2 and Randolph-Macon lost their first game.

[Will2Win]

Well Thanks for your input CNUball25, but your opinion really doesnt matter much...so, as you stated...feel free to stay silent until next regionals.
Back to reality....SU's up 6-0 in the 2nd
Good start huh?